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FrankNichols
2/25/2018 13:38 EST

My wife and I are retired and will be immigrating to Ecuador in the coming months - finally after several trips.

I am sure we are going to have many questions as we work through the process. Our intention to start with is to do the process ourselves, but if we find it not working out, we will be open to hiring a facilitator or lawyer to help.

The first question that comes to mind is are the implications to my having a permanent pensioner visa and my wife having a dependent VISA vs us both applying for Pensioner VISAs.

Obviously if we both apply for pensioner VISAs the filing fee's will be higher.

Are there implications for Healthcare? Or other services?

If we do that is the cost of IESS based on my income alone? Does she have to document or declare her income (SS) - or do I have to declare her SS when applying for IESS?

TIA,

Frank

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kmarch
2/25/2018 17:16 EST

I would advise you to get two separate Residency Visas. If something happens to you - like getting run over by the texting bus driver - your wife will have to start all over anyway.
There are other options, like Professional Visas if either or both of you have a college degree. I could steer you toward excellent facilitators or attorneys. I am in Cuenca now 3.5+ yrs. Please put my email in your files. I'm full of free advice. (But most of my friends say I'm just Full Of It.)
Ken March
kmarch10@gmail.com
USA Phone: 321/373-3762

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MrBill1955
6/25/2018 22:27 EST

I agree with Ken on getting separate visas if at all possible. Much less hassle for the surviving spouse should anything happen.
As for IESS you sign up based on the Ecuadorian basic wage which is currently $386 per month which is around $67 per month. I would suggest both signing up for that as well for the same reasons.. It costs a little more but again if anything happens to the main person the dependant could have some issues.

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Dedbroth
6/25/2018 22:59 EST

When the wife is the surviving spouse in a marriage, she cannot make any legal decisions because women have no authority and they are not related by consanguinity (blood). It's a challenge ( an
understatement )..

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frog0528
6/26/2018 08:36 EST

Agree with Ken. Please, please, please email Visaangels for your questions on visas. Laws change DAILY and there is a lot of misinformation on social media. Not intentionally, just everyone cannot keep up with the changes. Check out Visaangels on GringpPost.

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deucy14
2/4/2019 02:35 EST

There are at least two posts on this thread up to this point stating a surviving spouse having received the benefit of a visa based on the other spouse's qualification for successfully processing into receiving a visa must start over the processing now widowed or becoming a widower.

Unless there has been a change back again, this is not true. In 2015 more or less this was changed so the surviving spouse does not have to "start the original processing over again."
(1) I don't know what the survivor must do if anything beyond recording a death certificate and updating the personal cedula (national i.d card.)

(2) Myself and others I suspect have cited this a few times, but I would check into this before departing for Ecuador in the event it has changed again in order to weigh your options.

(Do check into the definition of your use of of the word "immigrate." Interesting that Immigrate has two letters "m." Emigrate has one letter "m." Go figure !)

Debroth states on this thread, ".... surviving spouse in a marriage, she cannot make any legal decisions because women have no authority..." That is news to me. "Authority is a conferral of rights. Women have no rights ? Am I missing something ? You should check this out. One good reason to have a facilitator is to have one that can answer some of your questions or refer you to an authoritative source.

With my little Spanish I was going to run my own papers around Quito. But the more I saw conflictions at this site and statements that I questioned the veracity, I used a facilitator and asked my questions, too.

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bufordness
3/1/2019 07:40 EST

Disregard the cost as it is not that costly and each of you get your own pensioner visa. Should one of you pass away on the dependent visa there are difficulties involved for the spouse who is not the primary visa holder. Contact Dana Cameron at 098-059-0930 for inexpensive assistance. I believe from the states you have to dial 593-98-059-0930.

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EARLABS
3/2/2019 11:54 EST

Use an Atty with little or no spanish language skills its a formula for frustration and failure doing it yourself. You may not see it but those with fluent Spanish language skills do get better co operation from municipal & govt employees. With the ever changing visa requirements as well as SSi you can get very confused taking advice from others on line as well as outdated information . Have seen those who even had to go back to their home country due to not having all the correct applications in order when they attempted to do it after ther were here in EC. Its not worth the potential pitfalls by trying to do it on your own.

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EARLABS
3/2/2019 11:54 EST

Use an Atty with little or no spanish language skills its a formula for frustration and failure doing it yourself. You may not see it but those with fluent Spanish language skills do get better co operation from municipal & govt employees. With the ever changing visa requirements as well as SSi you can get very confused taking advice from others on line as well as outdated information . Have seen those who even had to go back to their home country due to not having all the correct applications in order when they attempted to do it after ther were here in EC. Its not worth the potential pitfalls by trying to do it on your own.

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