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frankEC
11/21/2019 05:29 EST

In the 3rd year of my visa I took a 6-month trip out. That was ok per the visa. My problem is that for naturalization one cannot be out of the country more than 180 days in the 3rd year. Counting departure and arrivel, I was gone 181.

The ministry refuses to accept my application.

I saw one article by a lawyer stating if in 3 subsequent years one was not out more than 180 days each that would qualify. The ministry said no exceptions. WE all know many answers we get in government offices depends on the individual and maybe if he had an argument with his wife at breakfast.

Any exceptions known???

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desertcogo
11/21/2019 07:31 EST

I don't understand why you would be out of the country for exactly 180 days knowing that was the maximum time allowed. How would it have hurt to cut your time out of the country by a day or two just to be on the safe side?

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frankEC
11/21/2019 08:23 EST

I knew I was OK with my visa to be gone six months - up to 5 years is allowed.

I did not know that the limit was different for naturalization. I certainly would have cut my time out. There was nothing sacred about the time I planned to be out.

Now, rather than criticizing without knowing anything, how about some helpful info?

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DonSinclair
11/21/2019 15:25 EST

FrankEC, Maybe you should check for help with your problem on facebook if you have availed youself of that dubious site in the past. Unfortunately this very site, like you have found, may only invite mud-slinging. It seems that with all these sites, there are few who will really try to help you. Try a private message to RVGringo, he may help you or refer you to someone who will help you. Buena suerte.

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EARLABS
11/21/2019 16:42 EST

HIRE A LAWYER !!!

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DonSinclair
11/21/2019 16:56 EST

Earlabs, Now why didn't I think of that...Oh, yes, now I remember, lawyers are to be avoided at all costs, except in jokes. That reminds me...How can you tell when you approach the location of a car incident whether a lawyer or a dog were hit by the car? Well, I'm glad you asked how to tell...If it were a dog, there were skid marks! Bear with me, a second lawyer joke...How can you tell if a lawyer is lying...His lips are moving. Are you game for another one? What is the difference between a lawyer and a catfish...Glad you want to know...One is a dirty, scum sucking bottom dweller...the other is a fish! OK, only one more: How do you spell "lawyer"?...Answer: liar. Boy I hate lawyers! Can anyone add more lawyer jokes...make my day!

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frankEC
11/21/2019 17:51 EST

That was certainly a waste of space.

Grow up.

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shereemauro1
11/21/2019 17:56 EST

As a future expat, I have been watching several forums in my research of potential future homes. I am saddened to see so many outright rude, and snarly remarks between people participating in the Ecuador Forum. Get a grip people! Is Ecuador so boring that you have nothing else to do! Good grief!

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kmoriarty45
11/21/2019 21:29 EST

shereemauro1

Please don't judge all of the contributors on this forum by those few who cannot help but be snarky and rude. These individuals do seem to think that this is their own private Chat Room for snarl and snide.

Don't that vocal minority deter you from reading, commenting and seeking advice or assistence on this site. There are quite a few of us who are here to help and do so cheerfully - many of us drawing on our own positive and negative experiences of life here in Ecuador.

Unfortunately, you will find these same types of people no matter what country you go to but you are right. This particular Forum sadly, has drawn more than its share of malcontents, misfits, and trolls.

If you have a question and are reluctant to pose it on the public forum, you can always PM (Private Message) one of us and we'll be happy to answer your questions, privately.

All the Best, and ¡Bienvenido a Ecuador!

Kevin

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Chattaroy
11/21/2019 22:54 EST

Sheree, I've been watching several forums over the last year in preparation for my escape. Except for a few recent posts, the Ecuador posts have always seemed to be really informative and supportive. Costa Rica is the same. If you want to see fireworks, visit the Colombia site.

It's always interesting information when a resident expat comes out of the woodwork to address something they feel is important.

Good luck with your plans!

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desertcogo
11/22/2019 05:28 EST

I know you may not want to do it but hiring an immigration lawyer would be your best bet. When I first moved here my wife's daughter had a friend who was a lawyer and she helped me through the lengthy process of getting my amparo visa. I think it was well worth what she charged me and just having a local's help was invaluable.

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user001
11/22/2019 08:29 EST

I agree you need someone (lawyer or whatever) who knows someone there who can smooth it over.

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frankEC
11/22/2019 15:27 EST

2 lawyers have told me no exceptions, I have feelers out to others. The next week will be go or no go for me.

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frankEC
11/22/2019 15:27 EST

2 lawyers have told me no exceptions, I have feelers out to others. The next week will be go or no go for me.

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Elexpatriado
1/9/2020 07:02 EST

Frank must be one of them hpta lawyers..

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frankEC
1/9/2020 08:22 EST

What does that mean?

If you have nothing useful to say, SHUT UP!

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windshadow
1/11/2020 09:39 EST

Dear Frank, I have come to believe that the process is loaded with fear and loathing. Give a bureacrat (sp) a little power and they will abuse it.

The question I have for you is "what is the downside of re-applying and re-starting the clock.?" You already have the paperwork. Beware, Ecuador has a knack of making you feel the sky will fall if you don't hurry, hurry, hurry, etc. Be sure and bring plenty of color copies... (:

Once you are back in the process it is just a matter of time and no one will ever care or know.

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windshadow
1/11/2020 09:39 EST

Dear Frank, I have come to believe that the process is loaded with fear and loathing. Give a bureacrat (sp) a little power and they will abuse it.

The question I have for you is "what is the downside of re-applying and re-starting the clock.?" You already have the paperwork. Beware, Ecuador has a knack of making you feel the sky will fall if you don't hurry, hurry, hurry, etc. Be sure and bring plenty of color copies... (:

Once you are back in the process it is just a matter of time and no one will ever care or know.

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frankEC
1/11/2020 09:46 EST

I would take more than 3 years as I would have to get a new visa and wait the 2 + years. I am 79, so, will I be around in 3 years?

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