Ireland Expat Forum

leftovers
Joined 2019
Posts: 1

4 years ago

Dual Residency Self Employed advice.

4 years ago

I have an unusual lifestyle.

My partner is Irish and I'm from the UK.

I am spending an increasing amounts of time in the country. I intend to go back and forth regularly. Around half the time. in each country, so will be living and working in both.

She is not in a position to move from Ireland, and we are happy with this lifestyle as we both want to balance time with family.

I am self employed sole trader for a decade. I can work from anywhere. I have no employees.

My clients are mostly in North America. Some in the UK and had Australian and other Commonwealth clients. No Irish clients yet.

I can work with just a laptop, but typically use extra equipment like monitors and other devices. Other costs are are your sundries and rent electricity, etc. But it is fairly lean.

I have property income in the UK and own a a property, which I live in when I'm in the UK.

I have read a bit about the Anglo-Irish treaties and the dual taxation treaty. However still not sure how to best to approach this.

My client are the same regardless of where I'm working. I set up contract with them, and I woudl work with them regardless of where I am.

As I understand I am taxable in Ireland anyway.

As I understand as I have property and family in the UK, that would make "treatied resident' in the UK, under the dual taxation/dual residency arrangement, which is bilateral circa the 70s.

So I would pay tax in Ireland for work in Ireland.I would pay full tax in UK for my business and property income, with relief for the Irish tax. Is thsi correct?

I do reside in a border county when in Ireland, but this might not always be the case. I also wan to maximise my options. I prefer to have a home office rather then rent a separate office.

This issue I'm faced with is I'm not sure how this would apply to self employment. Obviously I have a right to work due to the Anglo Irish treaties. But it I not like I'm workign for too different employer of coming over specifically to work with an Irish company.

Could I simply make a calculation based on the time spent in Ireland? Does it matter that these are the same contracts with same clients?

I would have some equipment in each country, and it would be possible to divide hours based on each contract. Should I treat these as separate businesses Should one use the services of the other. Should I form companies, e.g. one subsidiary then take a salary from both, etc.

Anyone with similar experience?

I plan to ask the tax authorities, but I'm also keen not to put my foot in it. I also may wish to buy property in Ireland and eventually get citizenship.

Thanks in advance.

Allianz Care

Flexible solutions allow you to tailor your cover to meet your needs and budget. Use Promocode: LIFE10 and get 10% off your international health insurance for life!
Get Quote

Allianz Care

Flexible solutions allow you to tailor your cover to meet your needs and budget. Use Promocode: LIFE10 and get 10% off your international health insurance for life!
Get Quote

Living in Ireland Guide

The passion that expats in Ireland have for their adoptive land is often truly amazing. Many get absolutely absorbed in the culture, the people and everything else that Ireland has to offer.

Ireland Forum
Join our Ireland forum to meet other expats and talk about living in Ireland.

Contribute
Help other expats and newcomers by answering questions about the challenges and adventures of living in Ireland.

Best Places to Live in Ireland

If you're considering a move to Ireland, here are the 15 Best Places to Live in Ireland in 2023.

Healthcare in Ireland

Expats in Ireland face very specific timelines and rules when it comes to getting healthcare in Ireland. It's important to understand how this will impact your journey and your individual health before you decide to move to Ireland.

Cost of Living in Ireland

Expats offer insight into the cost of living in Ireland.

Moving to Ireland Guide

Expats moving to Ireland have a wide variety of options in terms of great places to live. People moving to Ireland for work, to retire or for any other reason can realize the life they imagine if they do enough research before taking the plunge.

Real Estate in Ireland

Real estate listings in popular cities and towns in Ireland.

Pros & Cons of Living in Ireland

Take off your rose-colored glasses and learn what expats have to say about the biggest challenges and the greatest rewards of living in Ireland.

Retiring in Ireland

Advice for people retiring in Ireland.

10 Tips for Living in Ireland

If you've recently arrived in Ireland, here are 10 tips for digital nomads living in Ireland.

Additional Information:

Visit our Ireland Index for a Full List

Allianz Care

Flexible solutions allow you to tailor your cover to meet your needs and budget. Use Promocode: LIFE10 and get 10% off your international health insurance for life!
Get Quote

Allianz Care

Flexible solutions allow you to tailor your cover to meet your needs and budget. Use Promocode: LIFE10 and get 10% off your international health insurance for life!
Get Quote

Contribute
Help others in Ireland by answering questions about the challenges and adventures of living in Ireland.