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Marutti
9/19/2017 13:16 EST

dear all,

I am a mother of two, planning on moving to Kingston.. I have trillion questions, but i think the first most important one is: how would I go back after staying in Jamaica for long peroid of time? US citizens can stay here for up to 6 months, then they have to leave. WOuld they allow me to come into the country right after 6 month period? Also, if I stay in Jamaica and leave after 4 month, will it null my stay back to zero and will i have another 180 days to stay? How exactly does it work? I have two kids, one is 4 yo, another is 15 .. i want them both to attend school. If my older one goes to public school, will he need documents of residence? I know private schools won't require residentail status, but what what about public schools?

Please, let me know. ANY info on the subject would be mega appreciated.

Thank you!
M

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RickBlaine
9/19/2017 13:34 EST

Are you a Jamaican citizen or married to a Jamaican citizen or a descendant of a Jamaican citizen?

Not sure where you got the 6 months, 180 days from... immigration will only give you a 90 tourist stamp. Additionally; you'll need to purchase round trip tickets otherwise the airline will not let you board without an unconditional landing stamp in your passport. That includes the children as well.

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RickBlaine
9/19/2017 13:37 EST

You also didn't mention if you had a work exemption through an employer. That would change a few things.

and I won't even get into the obvious questions.

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Marutti
9/19/2017 13:44 EST

http://www.embassyofjamaica.org/VISnorthamericanvisitors.htm

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Marutti
9/19/2017 13:46 EST

i work for the states remotely. won't work here.

looking for a knowledgeable source or points to some immigration authorities or solid info

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RickBlaine
9/19/2017 15:31 EST

LOL... OK, I tried to give you some solid information based on MY LIVING HERE! but appears you already know more than I do!!! Good Luck to you!!

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LoriB
9/19/2017 21:06 EST

Best you familiarize yourself with Jamaica's site http://www.pica.gov.jm/ , and rather than the Embassy. The embassy wording you cite is similar-but-different from wording that was previously on the PICA site.

Are you aware Jamaica is a highly sexualized environment, and knowledgeably choosing to put your children into that?

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Marutti
9/20/2017 09:37 EST

LoriB, please elaborate on that matter: what exactly happens to children in that regard? are they being molested at a young age at school? is there unnoticed rape happening everywhere and gov'nt doesn't do much? how do locals protect their children from "sexualized
environment" and what exactly does it mean?

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Marutti
9/20/2017 10:13 EST

are you an american citizen living in jamaica with US passport on a tourist base ? or are you an american citizen, living in jamaica with US passport and had obtain residency? please, provide your background and experiences with the exact subject of this thread, thank you before hand,
M

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LoriB
9/20/2017 14:03 EST

I have 8 years experience living in Jamaica.

There is an insidious, pervasive p.o.r.n.ographic attitude/atmosphere/exposure. There is little filtering, no protection of children from it. You could not protect or shield your children from it because it is on vehicles, signage, billboards, music, announcements, the way people dress, the conversations between people, in any kind of store or public place, in private homes/yards.

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Gardis
9/20/2017 20:01 EST

The real question is why you would give up residency in a developed country with every advantage that Jamaica doesn't have, and bring your children into that environment? What is your motivation, when tons of Jamaicans are dying to get off that island and migrate to Canada, UK and the USA? Please tell us more. And moreover, if you are asking questions as basic as what the school system is like (some schools have no books!!!) then you have not done your research.

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Marutti
10/10/2017 13:46 EST

i have done my research and i suppose the main reason of my desire to move to JA is just as simple as: "i want to".. i couldn't care less about who wants what and why.. it's none of my business and i have zero interest in talking about differences between the countries. for each it's own and we will never find a common ground, so i won't even get into the debate..

i found this particular forum to be full of obnoxious people, asking very broad, unimportant questions, border line personal with very little effort to become friends.. most of the replies in my thread and many others are uncalled for rude, am wondering what is the reason for that and how many percents of those people are actually living in JA for real ? i found the island to be exceptionally warm, welcoming place, people are so big hearted , kind and welcoming.. seems like folks on this forum just haven't assimilated much and having a hard time being in JA, so they just sit here, pissed off and grumpy and leave their toxic replies..

guys, get a life! no need to judge.

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herbalhealingorganics
10/10/2017 18:31 EST

Welcome! I am in the hills of Trelawny.....would love to link up new friends are good to have.

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herbalhealingorganics
10/10/2017 18:35 EST

Hello rick...ready to dance with pica next month.....finally got all the documents...thanks for your great tips
Peace Warden

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LoriB
10/11/2017 11:40 EST

Ahhh, you have it backwards. If you don't want to learn from those who have assimilated, that's on your closed mind. 'Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth."

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Gardis
10/11/2017 20:01 EST

Good advice LoriB. The thing is, they get intoxicated by the beauty, weather, and sensuality of Jamaica, and think it's paradise - until you live there and find out otherwise. But they don't want to hear that.

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LoriB
10/11/2017 21:07 EST

I recently met a guy who has long-term, long-distance relationships with a couple people in the Philippines. He helps them out, sent a kid to school, etc. Currently he his helping one set up a business. He was frustrated with the gaps in their communication and he was overloading them with information. Another time he didn't like how his friend was being treated by a vendor and was advising him how to handle it. I explained some things from my Jamaican experiences, because I thought there might be similarities. I also reminded him that HE doesn't live there, HE doesn't know THEIR culture, and HE isn't the one dealing with it like they have to. And my favorite: "Just because you are both speaking English, doesn't mean you are talking about the same thing!" And they might say Yes, because they don't want to tell you No. He got so frustrated with me in our conversations we had to stop talking about it. But after he leaves my house he texts me, You are right! I'm going to let her handle it the way that seems best to her. This has happened a couple times. LOL

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Marutti
10/12/2017 12:56 EST

i actually DO want to learn from those who have assimilated, that's why i am here. but i find it hard to believe that the posters here have actually found their peace of mind. sounds like a bunch of grumpy pants, unhappy where they are, seeing only negative parts of JA and wanting to burst the bubble of those, who hasn't even embarked on the adventure yet..

anyway, i appreciate the effort. just next time bring the aggressiveness down a notch and try to stay as objective as possible, this way people would be willing to listen to your insights!

thanks again, see you on the other side :)

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Marutti
10/12/2017 12:59 EST

hello there and thank you for welocming words. we are going to Stony Hills around Nov. will message you privately ? :)

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RickBlaine
10/12/2017 14:24 EST

Having lived here (Montego Bay) for almost 2 years now and interacting with this forum, I think I can speak with some credibility. I've been busy and not very active here yet I do manage to follow the posts, comments & replies. I agree with some things said and disagree with others.

My experience is different than anyone else, as are yours! I am perfectly happy here... to the extent of feeling truly blessed. Yes I have and there are issues. Yes at times it's frustrating. Yes at times you just want to "kick the crap out of something" or beat your head against the wall!! I've adjusted!! I've assimilated!! I except what I have to, let a lot of stuff just slide and pick my battles but bottom-line... ain't no one or no thing going to ruin my paradise! Yes, I said paradise.

There's a saying; "One person's Hell is another person's Heaven." Ever so true! Yes, some things here are expensive but other things are cheaper. You need to adjust and learn!

The other thing is that you need to examine your original motive for relocating here and your EXPECTATIONS!

Headline: It's Not Always Sunny & Palm Trees!! It does rain!! It rains bad customer service, ignorant drivers, crime and DRAMA! It rains high prices, long lines, no common-sense and more.

If you come here with the mindset of having the same standard-of-living as you do in the states or Canada you won't make it. If you have expectations of hot water every morning or just water period, you need to rethink that. If you expect to be able to make a living here, rethink that! If you expect to have quality education, public safety, security, business relationships without paying for it... rethink it!

If you come here thinking you can leave all your problems back home... rethink that! They will either follow you here or you'll replace them with something else! Honestly, if you're not happy with yourself now and who you are... YOU WON'T BE HAPPY HERE or anywhere else.

To the subject of some people being rude here, I guess I can raise my hand to that... on occasion.

The frustrating thing to me (and I presume a few others) are what's called the "Dreamers". Some have been here on vacation and suddenly they're packing their bags and wanting to move here.

Headline: Vacationing Here and Living Here is 3 Different Things!

There is an Awesome New web site that can give you almost any information on any subject on anywhere in the world! It's called GOOGLE!!! I'll agree sometimes information on Jamaica or the government is a challenge to get and networking is a great way to obtain or augment what you've found but when some one obviously hasn't even attempted to find the information it's difficult for me to take them seriously. (What? You want I should come pack your bags for you too?) Also, often times there isn't enough specific information provided by the poster to give them an appropriate answer.

I've also experienced that I've given someone advice and/or my experience with a "process" and they don't even follow it. Honestly; if you're not going to take my advice and apply what I've learned don't waste my time.

The other thing is, this forum is made up of people. People with different views, different experiences and personalities... just like the real world. It is what it is and should be taken at face value. You get what you pay for.

I won't even go into the "Get-Together" thing... been there, done that, own the t-shirt and later burned it. If you're looking to make new friends here, start with your next door neighbor. In fact most likely they were born here and can help you get acclimated.

If any one wants to criticize, just keep it civil. If you have a question just send me a Private Message and I'll do my best to answer you.

Be Blessed!

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ruthie14
10/23/2017 12:05 EST

Hello, I'm a native Jamaican, no longer live there but I visit regularly. The work issue has already been addressed but I will address the issue of the kids. You would not want to put your kids in public school, at least for elementary school. Most middle class Jamaicans send their children to private school as the primary school system is very bad. For high school 90 percent of the schools are government-owned so middle class Jamaicans will send their kids there (but people know which are the good schools). There are more applicants than spaces so it's hard to get into a high school at the age of 15, if you were not already in the system from a young age. So you would probably have to send your child to one of the private high schools. I would not worry about the sexualization of kids. I don;t think it's any worse than in the U.S. You just have to protect your kids same as anywhere. In fact, I think kids are more likely to have a more wholesome upbringing -- less dependence on iPads and similar gadgets, more time playing outdoors, etc.

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