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expattobe26
5/27/2019 00:10 EST

(I am a U.S. citizen who wants to move to Mexico. I have been following the changes to / elimination of Seguro Popular as it is rolled into the other Mexican national health care system.

Based on what I have read in the media and on Facebook Groups, Seguro Popular is being phased out on a state-by-state basis.

Permanent residents will no longer be eligible to join SP or any other form of the Mexican national health care system. Is this correct?

Due to a pre-exisiting condition it is now impossible for me to purchase a private insurance plan in Mexico. I am quite healthy, but still need insurance and to be able to pay for my medication.

This seems like a huge hit to the Americans with permanent residency in Mexico -- especially anyone over age 60. As I say, AGE is pre-existing condition where health insurance companies are concerned.

Can anyone update me on what is happening regarding SP? What are the expats who relied on it doing now? Are some people with serious pre-existing conditions moving back to the U.S.?

Thanks.

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RVGRINGO
5/27/2019 10:17 EST

You, and others, are reading current conjecture. The details are not know yet, as far as I can tell.
Permanent Residents may be able to buy into IMSS, or whatever the new system will be called.
If you really must have medical insurance to cover your routine office visits and medications, Mexico may not be a good choice for you.

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MonicaRixPaxson
5/27/2019 13:34 EST

There are many rumors about public healthcare no longer being offered to foreigners in Mexico, yet I have not been able to confirm this and I have been trying. I heard from one individual who claims that he was denied coverage and that he was told that it was no longer being offered to those with Residente Permanente status. However they there were a few questions that were unanswered in his account included specifically when this denial occurred. So, I am awaiting confirmation. Although it might seem logical given the current political situation in both Mexico and the US, I await more reliable information. If you have applied and been rejected or turned away from applying, please share the details including when and where this happened. Thank you. Meanwhile, here is an article I wrote recently on this subject. https://www.expatsinmexico.com/the-future-of-the-seguro-popular-program-for-expats/

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YellowTail
5/27/2019 14:05 EST

We renewed our IMSS coverage, which we have had for maybe 7 years now, in early March, Interestingly, we received our Mexican citizenship last fall, but I do not believe that we needed to show those credentials to renew our IMSS ins. If that is a new requirement then someone upstairs really has our backs :-)

I remember when we first received our RP status, INM sent along a 'welcome' letter that enumerated all the benefits we were entitled to as residents of Mexico - which included healthcare coverage, educational opportunities etc. We never received a follow-up letter rescinding any of those benefits...

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LeiaRowan
5/27/2019 15:17 EST

Congrats Yellowtail on your new citizenship!!!
Did you have to give up the other one.?
How long did that take etc?

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YellowTail
5/27/2019 15:46 EST

Thanks. We are now dual-nationals. The staff at SRE were great ! The whole process - which took right around 10 months - really was an experience. (I'm glad it is behind us).

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giershift43
5/27/2019 22:36 EST

Are U.S. citizens allowed to get a second citizenship?

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giershift43
5/27/2019 22:36 EST

Are U.S. citizens allowed to get a second citizenship?

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expattobe26
5/28/2019 06:12 EST

Yes to dual citizenship -- unless the country giving you citizenship requires you to renounce your US citizenship. The US doesn't require you to do so. I know people with both US and Mexican citizenship.

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hrlee7804
5/28/2019 10:27 EST

My real estate broker's husband just became a Mexican citizen. For him, he said the process was mostly about paying fees. I guess little to no having to learn about the country and memorizing some historical documents. He said after 60yrs old just paperwork and pesos. I guess there are some benefits, though. I don't have time to even think about it as I am so new I am still learning where to pay my water bill and remembering to without a notice!

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YellowTail
5/28/2019 12:07 EST

I think the path to Mexican citizenship was undergoing changes right about the time we were living it. Unlike the INM experience, where we pretty much had all the documents we needed already with us in Mexico, for SRE we needed to collect stuff from the US - and some states don't make that super easy. For example, we needed apostalized birth certificates. We had to make at least two trips into Mexico City. Once to get our federal 'good behavior' letters and another to visit the US Embassy so the notary could help my wife attest that she is who she says she is even though it is her parents name on her birth certificate and not my last name :-)

True - after 60 there is no testing of your knowledge of Mexican history BUT, for us anyway, there is now a rather challenging written Spanish competency exam. I'm not going to cheapen anyone else's experience by elaborating further, but in some ways a historical quiz might have been easier. Both my wife (who has lived in 3 Spanish speaking countries and collected millions of frequent flyer miles doing business in Mexico and Latin America) and I failed miserably the first time. That requires something like 3 weeks before you can re-take the test.

And every time a certain somebody in the US opened his mouth and we had not yet been approved we felt some stress.

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