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Exciter
9/22/2020 16:09 EST

We are planning a move to Mexico in the next year or two. I've learned a lot here about the temporary and permanent visa process. One thing I am not sure about is whether or not we need to have a Mexico address to apply ( I think I recall seeing that was the case previously). We don't anticipate having that before we go. We still haven't decided between 2 or 3 locations and were planning on renting a few months in each spot to see where we preferred.

If an address is required how do folks get around this? Do you just go down on a tourist until you make up your mind then head back to the States to start the process?

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Franklin99
9/22/2020 16:42 EST

as I understand it, you begin while you are in the states by applying online. Then, you complete the process once you are situated in Mexico. This could have changed.

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rediskee
9/22/2020 16:57 EST

We did not need an address, but each consulate is different. Check the list of required info at the consulate office where you plan to apply. If you need an address, you can always use an AirBnB address.

It's a great idea to travel to find the right place. Things are changing that could make getting the residency once you are in MX a one day thing, but if not you may need a couple months in one spot to complete the process. Timing is different from office to office.

Also, once you have residency, you have 90 days to notify IBM of any address changes of address (and other things) or you can be fined.

Lots of great info at soniadiaz.mx.com

Goodluck! We love living in MX (SMA, but Morel a is next. We love the weather in the mountain towns.). Liz

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rediskee
9/22/2020 16:58 EST

Sorry - INM, Immigration. Not IBM.

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Jubilacion
9/23/2020 09:49 EST

We just moved to Mexico in August, like you will after a year plus of research and videos.

1, You do not apply online it is in person at a US based Mexican Consulado
2. You do not need a Mexican address and they never ask for one.
3. We chose Temporal visa because we wanted to bring our car into Mexico and look around, we are now in Lake Chapala area on our first stop.
4. Join facebook groups in the areas you have interest to get a feel (or vibe) of what's really happening. Craigslist is a way to feel our the apartments and costs. It's only OK but it all helps. Watch YouTubes!
5. This forum is good but we're all biased and some people respond based on what they think they remember. Seek current info.
Buena suerte!

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Exciter
9/23/2020 14:13 EST

Thanks very much for all the input. Not sure why I thought an address was needed, this makes a lot more sense.

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Jubilacion
9/23/2020 16:20 EST

Later, after securing your Visa and prior to entering Mexico you will need an address where you'll be staying (like Airbnb, apartment, etc.) We made a copy of our lease (or Airbnb statement) just in case. It was never needed but we were ready. At the border they asked where and why we were going to Mexico but no issues.

We crossed in Texas at the Laredo–Colombia Solidarity International Bridge and secured our TIP (your permission/authority to have your car in Mexico) our deposit was about $400 USD on a 2011 Nissan then drove the Toll-roads to Lake Chapala.. You are a ways away from that but this forum and others on Facebook was an excellent source of information preparing for our drive into Mexico. You can PM me if you have any questions.

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Eidel
9/24/2020 11:11 EST

You must apply for either visa at the Mexican consulate outside of Mexico and you do not need a Mexican address to apply.

Once you receive the visa in your passport you only have 180 days to go to Mexico to complete the second part of the process with immigration in Mexico. For this part you will need an address in Mexico. It is best to get an Airbnb, use that address, and visit various neighborhoods to find your rental. You will have time to inform immigration that you have moved before they complete their process.

Be aware, however, that once you start the immigration process inside Mexico, if you need to leave before you are officially approved, you must be granted written permission by immigration to leave Mexico. If you fail to get such permission, you must start the entire process all over again!

Join various FB pages to get more information on moving to Mexico.

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hrlee7804
9/24/2020 20:51 EST

Once you get your residency card (Permanent anyway) they tell you to make sure if you move to let immigration know so they can change their records. I don't know if they check up or how they could but they told us to. My permanent card does not have an address on it.

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rediskee
9/24/2020 22:16 EST

Hi,

It's the requirement that you notify within 90 days for key changes, like address. This is true for permanent and temporary residents. There is a fine if you are found out.

There is info here: https://imagine-mexico.com/guidelines-for-foreign-residents-in-mexico/

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grapenut
10/7/2020 11:35 EST

IVE BEEN IN JUAREZ 3 YEARS. MY SON, 10 YEARS. SINCE WE LIVE WITHIN 30 MILES FROM US BORDER, NO NEED FOR TEMP OR PERMANENT STATUS. BEYOND THAT 30 MILES, YES. JUAREZ IS WIDE OPEN TO VISITERS FROM EL PASO EVERY WEEKEND. THAT YANKEE DOLLAR SAYS IT ALL. . JUAREZ IS FLOODED WITH TEXANS. FOR FOOD, GREAT RESTAURANTS, SHOPPING. IVE NEVER BEEN APPROACHED BY ANY AUTHORITY AS TO MY STATUS HERE.. I EVEN DRIVE MY WIFE'S CAR WITHOUT A LICENSE. COPS TOO BUSY HUNTING DOWN BAD BOY CARTELS. TO WORRY ABOUT AN OLD EXPAT DRIVING A MEX CAR. WIFE IS A MEX NATIONAL. ALWAYS WITH ME.

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cc532
10/22/2020 20:18 EST

Can one use a hotel address for the 'proof of domicile' in Mexico requirement on the temporary/permanent residency applications?

I've comments about using Airbnb addresses in Mexico. My thinking is such that one could always state that they're lodging at a hotel temporarily while looking for a more permanent address.

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rediskee
10/22/2020 20:26 EST

Someone mentioned earlier that there's a requirement for an address, this is not true for your application in the US, but it's true when you are in Mexico to complete the process. You can use an AirBnB address. We did 2 years ago, and many friends have fine this also. Not an issue. Remember that you DO have to notify immigration within 90 days of any move. The fine is high should you forget to do this. There's an online form needed and you go to I N to make the change.

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rediskee
10/22/2020 20:28 EST

I believe a hotel would be fine and per my earlier post, rememberthe requirement to notify IMN of you new address in 90 days.

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cc532
10/23/2020 02:57 EST

Does the temporary/permament card list the address?

An earlier commenter indicated not.

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canucklehead
11/2/2020 16:18 EST

Once you have acquired Permanent Residency status, if you decide to leave Mexico for a substantial period of time and end any lease for accommodation, do you just advise the immigration authorities that you will be outside the country for a specific period of time, or is it required to maintain a residential address even though you are not living there? My apologies for such a long sentence. It is a bad habit of mine.

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Retiree2
11/2/2020 20:04 EST

If you move INSIDE Mexico the rule states you have 90 days to go to your local INM office to put in the notification of change of address. If you leave Mexico you do not need to notify your local INM office because you now do not have any address inside Mexico and they have your last address on file which is good enough for them. When you get back and have a new address THEN you notify your local INM office no matter what city you live in of your change of address when living IN Mexico. They don't care where you live when abroad.

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cc532
11/2/2020 20:36 EST

For the most part, these comments have been illuminating and I thank you all for sharing your knowledge.

My only and primary hinderance is that because I am not yet retired (and thankfully still gainfully employed) in the US, I just do not have the ~2-4 weeks' time I can spend that is required to complete fully the canje part of the application for residency while in Mexico.

I have a friend in Mexico City who can assist me, but even the INM office there is not that fast in processing.

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