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jwbbx123
  4/6/2021 10:27 EST

I am 67 and on Social Security with an IRA pension to augment my income. It seems I can qualify for Permanant Resident both by monthly income and by savings based on the numbers at the Detroit Consulate web site. My husband is 43 and does not have savings to qualify, however my income and savings would cover a spouse.

My question is - if I ask for and receive Permanent Status at the consulate can he be included as a Permanent resident AT THE SAME TIME since he is my spouse?

In other words, can this all be done in a single visit or do I have to get my Permanant Resident Card in Mexico then return to Detroit Consulate to get his visa?

Has anyone else done this age disparate type of visa? I am worried they won't believe he wants to retire and will deny based on age at application.

Am I being overly paranoid?

inky313
  4/6/2021 12:51 EST

You can apply together and if your total combined assets/income meet the criteria you will both recieve your permanent visas at the same time.
I am a bit curious, did they open a consulate in Detroit? I thought the nearest one was in Chicago.

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jwbbx123
  4/6/2021 14:33 EST

It is in Madison Heights but they call it Detroit.

jwbbx123
  4/6/2021 14:37 EST

However, my question is that MY income and savings meet the requirements, but his do not. The spousal requirements are minimal compared to the basic requirements - but does age play a part? How about LGBT status?

Cozumeldeb
  4/6/2021 14:53 EST

I don't believe it matters. I know there is some variation between consulates. We have friends down here and their age difference is 26 yrs. Had no problem getting permanent residency. I would highly suggest you research sites where u are looking to settle in, ask for attorney recommendations to handle INM (MIGRATION OFFICE). EVERY DOCUMENT INCLUDING BANK STATEMENTS.
MEXICO LOVES PAPERWORK!
Remember when you get done at MX consulate you have 30 days to file in Immigration here in MX.
Good luck, MX is retirement heaven!

Retiree2
  4/6/2021 14:54 EST

It is not true that it will be allowed for both to apply and qualify for Residente Permanente at any Mexican Consulate in the US with only one spouse showing minimum financial solvency no matter the amount. It is individually accounts not combined assets and being a spouse they will qualify under the "Vinculo Familia" law. - family unity law no matter of their age either after one spouse recieves their RP card/visa at their local IMN office in Mexico without having to prove minimum financial solvency with having a valid FMM tourist card. This is easy to do. They can also apply at their Mexican Consulate in the US under the "Vinculo Familiar" law. Better to do this in Mexico in my opinion - much easier it appears. They will ask for 3 to 6 months of bank sratement from the spouse but no minimum deposits - they just want to know how you pay your bills. If the spouse has no income then they will accept the spouse's bank statements. This is why doing it inside Mexico at your local INM office is better. They already know you and have processed your preapproved 6 month visa from the Mexican Consulate. Very easy to do. You will need a recently apostiled copy of your marriage license. The dependant spouse will need to be a Residente Temporal for 2 years and they will asked if you want 1 to 4 years temporary when first applying for "Vinculo Familiar". 30 days or less before the RT visa/card expires you can apply for Residente Permanente with no minimum financial solvency proof. When entering Mexico only get a "canje" 30 day FMM card at Mexican Immigration. Not a FMN tourist card. You will need this plus have your passort stamped also or you screwed up and invalidated your visa in your passport. The spouse will need a FMN tourist card valid for 180 days. These will be turned in to the INM in Mexico and you will recieve a temporary legal document showing that you are in Mexico legally and your applications are "en tramite" in processing. This form will have your immigration number and a password to their website to check the process step by step. Know that the staff at the Mexican Consulates abroad are not INM officals. They are Mexican State Department employees therefore many know squat about immigration law or proceedures. They know how to check bank statements and put a 6 month visa in a passport. You can use a hotel or AirBbB as an address for immigration. They know you haven't had time to rent a place. Good luck.

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Retiree2
  4/6/2021 15:15 EST

It is not 30 days but 6 months when you finish with a Mexican Consulate. 30 days once you enter Mexico with the 6 month preapproved visa the consulate put in your passport. That is why a FMM "canje" is akways for 30 days. After that and you didn't go to an INM office you are in Mexico illegally and your visa in your passport is invalid.

Jubilacion
  4/7/2021 09:46 EST

Age disparity has nothing to do with it. My wife is 5 years younger and was not working by our choice.

At the Kansas City Consulado we BOTH qualified as Permanente and Temporal with my income and savings because we were BOTH listed on these accounts.

It had nothing to do with her age. We chose Temporal so we could bring our own car.

TeresitaX
  4/15/2021 16:21 EST

I think perhaps Mexican law has changed since this info was accurate? Now ALL residency must be applied for from a foreign consulate. There is no way to apply for residency from inside Mexico, while on a tourist visa. Of course it could be things have changed due to the pandemic? I would certainly make a call to the immigration office where you hope to apply before coming all the way down, only to find out that the process can no longer be started from Mexico.

Retiree2
  4/15/2021 17:26 EST

Not ALL residency needs to be applyed for at a Mx. Consulate since Nov. 11th. 2012. There are several exceptions and all applying under the "vinculo familiar" law (family unity law) can apply inside Mexico with a FMM tourist card. No change in the law.

Cozumeldeb
  4/15/2021 22:01 EST

We got our permanent residency 5 yrs ago. We live in Chicago suburbs, MX embassy in Chicago. Find your local embassy online, it should have a list of requirements to apply, if not call them. Make appt and show required docs. May take a couple visits, I can't

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Intransit1
  4/24/2021 03:25 EST

Are you saying that you are a same-sex couple? Although Mexico has made some changes in the last few years, I'm not sure if would allow a family unit type of visa for immigration purposes, in spite of being legally married in the states. The current Mexican president has been rather disappointing in that regard. Perhaps others could chime in who have tried it successfully.

jwbbx123
  4/24/2021 07:55 EST

Yes, we are a same sex couple. Understood that it was legal in many states, and we are moving to Jalisco.

Intransit1
  4/24/2021 12:39 EST

Yes, it is in some states, but you would be dealing with the national government. If it is acceptable, then there is a formula for including a spouse or dependent in addition to your income; so no, you both would not have to qualify independently.

Retiree2
  4/24/2021 12:59 EST

If the Mexican federal government doesn't recongized same sex marriages the INM includes a comcubine relationship with proof under the "vinculo familiar" law. It is then possible to apply inside Mexico with a FMM tourist card for the spouse or common law spouse once one person has an INM - Mexican Immigration - residence visa/card with no minimum financial solvency.

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