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darkfader24
8/31/2019 22:48 EST

SurfingCebu, RobertDav, Ladies and Gentlemen - Here is a link to a fascinating interview with an amazing Chinese Billionaire - Guo Wengui.


He gives a very serious warning to America (and the Western World) regarding China's strategy to destroy America and all that she stands for. I feel that this is a very important interview to watch - and decide for yourselves what the future may hold. This is quite serious in my estimation, as even this man has been threatened with assassination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cwXifDaCjE


There is also a warning from Steve Bannon regarding China: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH5QzuzD01A

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Goslig
8/31/2019 23:33 EST

darkfader24. Good post. As far as nubee’s go and China, forewarned is forearmed.

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Goslig
9/1/2019 00:41 EST

Another troubling fact about China is that Luc Montagnier
born 18 August 1932) is a French virologist and joint recipient with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV).[4] A long-time researcher at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, he currently works as a full-time professor at Shanghai Jiao Tong University in China. What is China’s biotech warfare capabilities?

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draks
9/1/2019 01:29 EST

If China goes to war with China and her allies, then I guess it will go nuclear in the end. I would think Philippines wi" be one of the first to fall. Can't really understand why China would want to destroy USA, probably the biggest consumer of Chinese goods. Unless they ate responding to trumps declaration of taxing China out of the USA. If it happens then USA and it's Ally's will have a massive fight on it's hands. Good good by any stretch of the imagination. China I think will ally with North Korea, maybe some middle eastern countries who also hate America. WW3? Could be couldn't it?

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draks
9/1/2019 01:31 EST

That should have read if China goes to war with USA

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darkfader24
9/1/2019 01:36 EST

Draks - I figured it was a typo and you meant the USA. Did you get an opportunity to watch the Interview?

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darkfader24
9/1/2019 01:53 EST

Also - I don't think it will ever escalate to a Nuclear WW III. WW III maybe - but not Nuclear. What's the point? It's a total Lose-Lose. The Human need for survival is too great. It is so deeply impeded into the Human Psyche by Mother Nature / Evolution (Survival Of The Fittest) or God Almighty (who I believe is in total control) that mankind, who has murdered 100,000,000 last Century alone, just will not go that far. Yes, 1oo Million is unthinkable and unspeakable, but it is a far cry from 1 Billion and we are heading toward 8 Billion now. I think that all the saber rattling as far as Nuclear is concerned is an attempt to intimidate. The Chinese want to win. They want to destroy others - not themselves - which is exactly what will happen with a Nuclear War. It's pure suicide. I don't get the slightest sense that China's Leadership is insane, like Adolph Hitler. They are Wiley, Sly, Cunning. They wanted to slap Kim Jong-un and warned Little Rocket Man last year when he was trying to show that he had big testicles hiding under all that belly fat - and was shooting off missiles. They were none too pleased with him. They are playing the Long Game. It's so much less expensive, no loss of manpower, no blood or very little. They can do what has been the plan for so long when the Russians said back in the 1950s and 1960s - that they would help to corrupt the minds of the youth - and watch America slowly sink into it's own grave. Drugs, Sex, Rock n Roll - and a good University EDUCATION!! Watching the USA today, is there little doubt that they have succeeded to a large degree?

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Goslig
9/1/2019 03:48 EST

China’s CPC and Chinese in general view the world in terms of all good or all bad & nothing in between.

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Robertdav298
9/1/2019 04:35 EST

Thanks Dark, very informative but this should be nothing new to the US Government as we have had intel on China for decades,,,,,,but the last administration chose to ignore it.
As I have said previously our biggest threat is China followed closely by Iran.

No secret that Iran and China supply NOKOR, It would not surprise me one bit if the US and Russia become strange bedfellows........something to chew on!!!

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Goslig
9/1/2019 07:05 EST

This is fascinating, on YouTube 2 months ago. Hong Kong is going under because of the new arrangement with China which affects the 85,000 American Expats living there (largest Expat community in the world) and wealthy Hong Kong elites can be arrested and deported to China by their secret service. The renaissance of Hong Kong economy is over: https://youtu.be/ZBl05xNq_AU
Everyone is getting out selling Hong Kong dollars and buying US, putting their money in US Securities which China is also hedging on. The money is moving to Vancouver and Sydney.

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Goslig
9/1/2019 07:55 EST

After watching Steve Bannon
https://youtu.be/qH5QzuzD01A
I like what Trump is doing. Yet listen to what he says about who is selling American out. This is interesting.

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surfingcebu
9/1/2019 11:13 EST

If you get in the way of China progress or bad mouth them , you end up "committing suicide " ....usually at no-one where the TV cameras are out , watching you jump off a building . this happens or you're put in jail for life for some silly fake crime .

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surfingcebu
9/1/2019 11:20 EST

Goslig - IF China burn and bombs HK , that will end their own way out of China itself , and their conduit of western currency . It may happen.... and if it does it will close China even tighter !

Canada has an estimated 350,000 expats ....most of whom will come to the Vancouver area ( maybe 50-80K to Toronto) in the next 6-25 months if things keep up !

China under XI , has lost all reason and sense of the 'no war and no aggression ' front China use to follow .

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LovePhilly
9/1/2019 11:29 EST

I enjoyed watching those interviews Dark, thanks for sharing. They were informative. My two takeaways:

1. Revolution is likely in China within the next few years resulting from their economy.

2. The South China sea is the most likely place on Earth for a confrontation.

I hope number 1 happens before number 2.

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surfingcebu
9/1/2019 11:46 EST

Love - people dont realize what a huge threat and immediate threat China is under chairman XI .

Ive been banging this drum for years and years !!!!!

They are out to rule the world and Crush the west - next 10 years . they have the ability to engage in Bio warfare and IT warfare - some of the best sources of bio warfare and IT offensive weapons and systems in the world !

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LovePhilly
9/1/2019 15:16 EST

Surf China has had biological weapons since the 1980's.

I think the people will take over.

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Goslig
9/1/2019 19:52 EST

In Steve Bannon’s “warning on China”, his recommendation to Trump was to give 72 hour notice to the Chinese to leave or the 7th fleet would take them out. After all they lost in the international court. Being just off Palawan, where Google Earth names them the Palawan Spratly group of islands, they are in Philippine waters. After the recent ramming of a Filipino fishing boat, the Chinese maritime navy, disguised as dredgers (etc.) refused to rescue the Filipino fishermen after their vessel sank. Then with the near miss between the American Destroyer with a Chinese one at high speed, and the insistence by the Chinese that the 7th fleet cannot proceed “locked and loaded” through the sea lanes in the South China Sea, sooner or later it’s going to be showtime. I would vote Trump on just this issue alone. On the West side of Palawan is a brand new deep water port built for the 7th fleet. Duterte has demanded that Xi prosecute the crew who sank the Pinoy fishing vessel and reparations be paid to them. He isn’t going to put up with another ramming. He can’t. Filipino’s want the invading Chinese maritime militia ships to leave their territorial waters, but they won’t. Duterte wants re-election. If the Chinese take another run at the 7th Fleet, it will be ‘game-on’.

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Robertdav298
9/1/2019 20:41 EST

I think that it's no secret who made CHINA the world power they are today, it was the west, pouring billions of dollars into their economy for decades as CHINA bulked up military and intellectually. Now the world has created this FRANKENSTEIN and wonders how do we tame it, kill it, stop it as it grows stronger and stronger. China is indeed a monster and they have the largest population in the world which brings us to Trumps semi-solution he knows that CHINA continuing on its present course CANNOT feed its ever growing population.
He knows like most of us that CHINA must look elsewhere for food and resources to fuel their economy let alone their huge military.
China would welcome war, their top NAVY ADMIRAL was quoted saying "the US is weak, they are fighting amongst themselves, all we would have to do is sink ONE CARRIER and they would crumble".

This is their mindset, this is how they view the US, which I think is a huge mistake. Yes we are divided, that is no secret, it is on the news everyday, yes we have mass shootings, immigration problems our congress is a mess.
But I think CHINA has no idea the might and will of AMERICANS. To underestimate the US is a huge mistake, our history shows that despite all our problems we always rally as AMERICANS it is our DNA.

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darkfader24
9/1/2019 23:07 EST

Gosling / RobertDav - I don't know Duterte's opinion of Trump, but if it's negative, I don't understand it. It is obvious who has got his back and who wants to whip his backside. China is an aggressor and the USA is obviously a protector and the "Stand Between". Who else on this entire Planet is standing up in defense of the RP? Who's 7th Navy are we talking about? Russia's? Sweden's? England's, Australia's? No, as usual - the one country the rest of the F-ing world loves to despise and spit on and blame for all the world's friggin' problems - The USA. Well, my blood is boiling. Yes, I believe we should stand for freedom - and all freedom loving people! And I'm glad that we've got the RP's back! And, YES! We have been very stupid in our greed - to send so much manufacturing and USA Dollars over there, as it weakens our economy while strengthening their's. We will surely pay the price - to some degree. However, China may find out the bitter truth that Japan discovered when they woke up The Sleeping Giant. If we are weakened by our internal dysfunctional bickering, it will immediately vanish at a moment's notice of a true threat. The Pansies and Social Justice Warrior Whiners will run and hide and all the Americans with Brass Balls will stand up and roar! We are locked - We are loaded - and These Colors Don't F-ing Run!!!

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Goslig
9/2/2019 00:49 EST

Robertdav298 Absolutely right on. One Carrier sunk would unite Americans and that would be China’s worst nightmare. Meanwhile they need a beating economically. The Democrats are sleep walking this issue, and so is the media. I don’t see any alternative but the thin edge of the sword, 72 hr. notice to vacate their Sprately bases. . Maybe if Xi sinks another Filipino fishing boat, Duterte will ask for help.

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mootpoint20
9/2/2019 01:03 EST

Ha! I'm so amazed at the ignorance of everyone. What had been planned by commies on both continents was war with Russia, which would have left China picking up the world residue. Your bible declares an army of 200 million soldiers marching west to Israel, which is the exact tally of the Chinese army. Once their army marches out of China west, you cant nuke anyone.

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Goslig
9/2/2019 01:03 EST

darkfader24 Obama & Trudeau pissed off Duterte, who I think is Trump with a heart. I don’t care for the Marxist baby talkers. They were around when I went to University, and are still there. The NPA is recruiting in the RP Universities, and Duterte has put bullseyes on all of them. Big push is on here now to purge the NPA. The US dick’ed around with the RP Automatic Rifle order on Obama’s watch, and turned Duterte off. Filipino’s love Americans. They just need to swing their mood. Wait until China sinks another RP fishing boat.

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darkfader24
9/2/2019 01:43 EST

Moot - Without a doubt, China's 200,000,000 man army will attempt to invade Israel - and then they and everyone else at Armageddon are gonna have a Meltdown - literally. It doesn't get much more graphic than descriptions of eyeballs melting in people's heads. Sounds pretty "Nuclear" to me. All laid down on papyrus by a Little Old Man abandoned on a Little Old Island over 2,000 years ago. The accuracy is astounding, isn't it? I don't think the time is yet, but it may happen soon. China has it's eyes on oil reserves in the Middle East and also has aligned itself with Iran and The Prince of Persia. Meanwhile, Iran has it's eyes on Israel and it's total annihilation as a people. China and Iran - interesting bedfellows.

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darkfader24
9/2/2019 01:49 EST

Goslig - who are the NPA? Sounds like it would be "The National Peoples' Army" or something Communist like that. Which really means "Comrades, give your hearts, souls, money - and finally your bodies to the fight. After we win, us Pigs here in the Animal Farm will take over and have a really good life ruling over you shlubs - cuz, remember, All of us are Equal, but some of us are more Equal than others!" And as PT Barnum once said "There's a sucker born every minute!" Did someone quote that here recently?

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Goslig
9/2/2019 02:29 EST

darkfader24 New People’s Army or NPA is the armed wing of the CPP, communist party of the Philippines. Listen little piggy, you like shooting your mouth off it seems. We’ll stick that metaphor in the place where the sun never shines on you. We’re you looking in a mirror when you said “shrub”? I was wrong about you. You’re stuck in 1984.

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Goslig
9/2/2019 03:40 EST

Expats need to know a little Philippine history if they’re going to live here. The Communist Party of the Philippines was established on November 7, 1930, AKA
Partido Komunista Bagong Hukbong Bayan, or the NPA (the armed wing) was formed by Jose Maria Sison on December 26, 1968. It was designated as a Maoist terrorist group. Rodrigo Duterte (who was Sison's former student) declared it a terrorist group on December 2017, after he took office in 2016. Prior to that, Duterte, the former mayor of Davao, was almost assassinated by the the NPA, but talked his way to being released. The NPA has been fighting a guerrilla war against the Philippines since its establishment. At first, it’s ranks numbered around 500, but the party grew quickly due to the imposition of martial law by former president Ferdinand Marcos during his 21 year rule. By the end of Marcos' dictatorship, the number of combatants had expanded to include more than 10,000 fighters. In a speech before the US Congress in 1986, Marcos' successor, Corazon Aquino, accredited the party's rapid growth as being caused by Marcos' attempts to stifle it. Corazon Aquino’s husband, Ninoy Aquino, sold Saba Island to Malaysia and was arrested by Marcos, He fled when his wife, Corazon, became President and let him out of jail. He was shot in Manila when he returned in 1980 (?) by relatives of his wife, from the. Coaujanco family. He is considered a traitor. Cory died on August 1, 2009 in office of cancer in Makati. Maria Corazón "Cory" Sumulong Cojuangco Aquino was a Filipino politician who served as the 11th President of the Philippines, becoming the first woman to hold that office. Corazon Aquino was the most prominent figure of the 1986 People Power Revolution, which ended the 21 year rule of President Ferdinand Marcos. After Cory died, her son, Ninoy took the office as president who, then, was defeated by Duterte in 2016.

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LarryKar
9/2/2019 04:02 EST

Goslig: I leave it to others how much of your " history" lesson is theory and how much fact but you do keep making the same error over and over. Durterte did not defeat Ninoy and is not doing things to assure his re-election. By the Constitution of the Philippines ( 1987) the President serves ONE six year term and cannot run a second time.

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Goslig
9/2/2019 04:30 EST

Hello LarryKar! Obviously you don’t follow Philippine news. He’s promised to change the Constitution in that regard. Wait and see what the Philippine people want. His current approval rating is 79%. Go figure!

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LarryKar
9/2/2019 04:48 EST

I follow constantly TV and print media. He also wakes up feeling cranky at least twice a week and threatens to quit. So there is that.

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darkfader24
9/2/2019 04:52 EST

Gos - 1984 and Animal Farm are still totally relevant, as far as I'm concerned. Cuz it's not about the setting as much as it is human nature - which Orwell seemed to have a handle on. :-)

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Goslig
9/2/2019 04:55 EST

LarryKar Then you should know that. Only twice a week he wakes up cranky, he’s doing better. But how’s his migraines? Does he have a clear conscience? Uh-oh! Yet where are the Liberals after Yolanda? In the toilet. Mar Roxas was not re-elected. Trilaines going to jail. Leni Roberto history.

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darkfader24
9/2/2019 05:00 EST

Gos - Thank you for the History Lesson. Very interesting. And what is your opinion of Corazon Aquino? I have heard of her, decades ago, but did not follow RP Politics very much at the time. I was totally into American Politics - but I was young back then. I did follow the Marcos's quite a bit but that's cuz they were always in the news and quite colorful. I mean, "C'mon Imelda, how many shoe closets do you really need?!?" LOL

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Goslig
9/2/2019 05:11 EST

darkfader24. Crystal ball? Boro Islamic Law is done. ISIS on the run. NPA is DOA! Sarah Duterte competing with Imelda in wardrobe, going to the Senate. DU-30 systematically eliminating the competition. Corruption still out of control. I get a little distracted at times: USA, RP, canadienne politics (?} all just a big crap shoot. Good to hear back from you shrub. Excuse moi my iPod speller.

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Robertdav298
9/2/2019 06:37 EST

GOS......thanks for the informative post very factual.

As far as D30 running again, I seriously doubt it. He is grooming Sara. He has said many times when he wasn't cranky that he is tired of fighting a losing battle with corruption. He said that he was not aware of how deep the corruption went and its frustrating.

You were spot on about his OBAMA opinion of the US. He has a good relationship with TRUMP because in some ways they are similar they both OPEN THEIR MOUTH AND SAY THINGS THEY TEND TO REGRET..

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Goslig
9/2/2019 06:59 EST

Robertdav298 Du-30 has been pushing for a national martial law declaration for a while, expanded from just Mindanao. The opposition Liberals are fading. If he goes for it, then he can suspend the Constitution, courts, etc. & drain the swamp. Sarah has been calling for it too. But she has to loose her political baby teeth first. Can he handle it? He’s 74. . They, Duterte and Trump, both like the ladies for certain. For a short guy, he can really pack a punch. I like it when he tells someone to F-O. His latest quirk is his threat to make a corrupt official “eat their money” if he catches them. There was a Foreigner in his restaurant in Davao, years ago (I won’t say which country), who lit up a cigarette. You can only smoke in your private car with the windows up while driving in Davao. He drew his handgun, went over and put the barrel to the guys head, and told him to eat the whole pack, or die. That’s like Trump too. The guy ate his whole pack and quietly left. This is why the Filipino people love him, yet they complain that he’s too soft on China.

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catabisis
9/2/2019 08:02 EST

The West is slowly disintegrating like Rome in the throes of a burning collapse.
One day, China is going to be the big man on the block and there is nothing we can do about it.
We allowed our politicians around the globe to dismantle whole industries in our own countries only to watch them be reassembled in China.
In the name of promoting Western democracy in China, globalists and capital oligarchs directly and indirectly helped China build a military through technology and immigrating Chinese into our technical universities.
All those rich Westerners saw were profits at everyone else’s expense. China is only going to continue to get stronger both militarily and economically. Get used it it. The stronger they become, the less crap those communist will tolerate from the West. It is too late to stop them. Duterte is a total dumbass and so are the Filipinos and foreigners who support him, But one thing that guy understands is China. Not to mention that he hates Western whites and identifies with his Chinese heritage.
Here is where he talks about his Chinese lineage. https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/qz.com/813171/i-am-chinese-president-rodrigo-duterte-explained-the-philippines-shift-in-the-south-china-sea-to-chinas-cctv/amp/

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Goslig
9/2/2019 10:16 EST

Benigno Aquino III, “challenged Beijing’s aggression in the South China Sea”, this isn’t true. Ninoy’s wife is Chinese. The Mamasapano clash was an incident that occurred during a police operation, codenamed Oplan Exodus, which took place on Sunday, On January 25, 2015, at Tukanalipao, Mamasapano, Maguindanao, by Special Action Force (SAF) of the Philippine National Police (PNP) (allegedly joined by United States Army Special Forces) against the Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters (BIFF) and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF). resulted in the deaths of 44 SAF police because the SAF commander, Chief Supt. Getulio Napeñas, was appointed by Ninoy and he failed to communicate with the military beforehand about “Operation Exodus” until at the last minute when fighting erupted between the SAF and the terrorists who ambushed the 475-man SAF.
Napeñas claimed that they informed the military “on time on target” whatever that means.
I was living here then and closely followed the news much of which was later covered up.
The military said “time on target” means their artillery is already standing by ready to fire at a moment’s notice which was not the case. American military advisors in the command post told Chief Supt. Getulio Napeñas. that he had to open up with his Artillery before sunrise or he would suffer large casualties. There was no Artillery back-up.

Only a handful knew about the top-secret military operation “Oplan Exodus.”

Among them were then President Benigno Aquino III and suspended Police Director General Alan Purisima. who was consulted at the last moment and told the American Military advisors in the command post “don’t tell me how to do my job”. Even then PNP officer-in-charge Leonardo Espina was kept in the dark about the military operation.

Ninoy was absent when the bodies of the brave fallen SAF 44 were brought home. He was in China attending an opening of a Chinese factory.

It is wrong to smear Duterte about having a Chinese relative. That is just the Liberal propaganda machine.

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Goslig
9/2/2019 10:40 EST

Correction Ninoy’s brother in law is Chinese, James Yap, and played basketball representing the Chinese, PRC or the CCP.

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LovePhilly
9/2/2019 11:01 EST

Some interesting posts here and I agree with most however, I think in general China is being over valued. Probably out of fear more than anything else.

China does have a large economy and with 1.2 billion people, they certainly should. America has a roughly equivalent economy with 350 million.

In my estimation, China is a paper tiger. I absolutely believe what they have done thus far is a result of the West giving it to them and we are now doing the correct thing, pulling out. Yes, let's see what kind of economy they have when there isn't any technology to steal. Let's see what king of economy they have when the west stops buying their plastic trinkets.

All nations rise and fall as with the Roman Empire and America will to...some day. America though is in its infancy and still growing, not declining.

We have the smartest most powerful military the world has ever known. We have a proud people who are freedom loving and prepared to defend freedom for all freedom loving nations.

Perhaps I'm just a naïve optimist but I think Russia and China are more an irritation than a threat. The Russians throw spit balls through Iran and China does it through North Korea.

I'm more concerned about radical Muslims attempting to infiltrate every culture on earth.

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Goslig
9/2/2019 11:01 EST

Sorry, trying to get these facts right. Cory Aquino’s family is Chinese. Ninoy’s mom. I don’t think Ninoy is married. Looked it up: Cojuangco (Chinese: ???; Pe?h-?e-j?: Khó?-hoân-ko; Southern Min pronunciation: [k????huan??ko?], Tagalog pronunciation: [x?'w??ko]) is the Hispanized Filipino-Chinese surname Kho (Hanzi: ?, pronounced [k????] in Hokkien and Xu [??] in Mandarin).[1] The Cojuangco clan is among the most powerful and influential families in the Philippines, exercising economic control over several banks (such as Bank of Commerce) and trade houses, partly due to marriages with the Ayala and Roxas families and partly to their own business enterprises (notably the sugar trade).[2] The clan has at various time been highly involved in Philippine politics, with several members having entered public office in both local and national positions.

Cojuangco
Place of origin
Fujian
The clan is descended from Co Yu Hwan (???; X? Yùhuán; Khó? Gio?k-khoân; Quanzhou Hokkien literary: H?u Ggiókhuán;[improper synthesis?] colloquial: Ko? Ggiákkuán),[improper synthesis?] who migrated from Hongjian Village, Jiaomei Township, Zhangzhou, Fujian to the Spanish East Indies in 1861.[3] He was commonly called Kuán Go? (Pe?h-?e-j?: Khoân ko "Brother Kuan") or Ko? Kuán Go? (Pe?h-?e-j?: Khó? Khoân ko / Khó? Hoân ko "Brother Koo Kuan") among Hoklo-Filipinos, and the latter was hispanicized as Cojuangco. He adopted the Christian name José in 1865, when he moved to Bulacan.

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Morgacj2004
9/2/2019 11:34 EST

Catabisis says "Duterte is a total dumbass and so are the Filipinos and foreigners who support him. I will not stop to calling you names however did you forget that China is still a developing nation with 1.4+ billion people to feed. China needs the west more than the west needs China. If China does not modernize fast enough you will see a revolution there similar to what happened to the old USSR. And we all know how that turned out. You are putting the Chinese on the podium when they havent even reached the medal round. The US still has by far the biggest economy and China will gain nothing by fighting long term with them.

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Morgacj2004
9/2/2019 11:41 EST

Correct Larry. Currently in the Philippines, a president may only serve for one six-year term. Prior to this regulation, there was a possibility of up to two four-year terms, similar to the United States.

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Goslig
9/2/2019 11:44 EST

Anyone interested is the current state of the RP government, just Google the “Red October Plot”, it’s on Wikipedia. Bong-Go, a Senator and close advisor to Duterte is also a star RP basketball is Chinese-Filipino . RP politics are like a good spy novel. The Philippine political arena is mainly arranged and operated by families or alliances of families, rather than organized around the voting for political parties. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_families_in_the_Philippines

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Morgacj2004
9/2/2019 11:46 EST

The Philippines is a unitary state with the President as both the head of state and the head of government. The government of the Philippines is made up of three interdependent branches which are the legislative, the executive, and the judicial system. The powers of these branches are bestowed by the: Judiciary branch, Constitution, Legislative and Executive branches.

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Goslig
9/2/2019 11:46 EST

Morgacj2004 Not when there is martial law. Think 21 years of Marcos.

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Morgacj2004
9/2/2019 11:51 EST

Goslig for a person who professes to be intelligent why do you insist on calling people names and degrading them? I am referring to your comments regarding Dark Fader and others If you want to get back in the good Grace's of other forum members you need to back off the insults!

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surfingcebu
9/2/2019 11:55 EST

People remember , china needs food badly to feed it population or the 25+ cultural groups will start fighting- civil war. also remember that the ( as a rule ) population loathe the central government , fear them and they are brutal upon the people of China...., and the people want them gone ....but would never vocalize this .

HK know the above and fear them too , hence the demonstrations .


Surf .

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Morgacj2004
9/2/2019 11:59 EST

Moot I think you need to reevaluate this strategy. The US and other nuclear capable countries can launch weapons in minutes. I believe the current intelligence and surveillance would quickly indicate if China was amassing a huge army at its borders and a rapid response would be indicated.

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Goslig
9/2/2019 12:00 EST

Morgacj2004 As a matter of fact that applies to you too. I’m not degrading anyone particularly Darkfader24 who I only responded to (humorously) in kind after his name calling of me. Go back to your glass house.

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darkfader24
9/2/2019 15:32 EST

Catabisis - I totally agree with the first 2/3rds of what you said. But - If DU30 is such a dumbass, how come he has done so much good for the RP? He did a lot of what he intended. Lowering the number of gangs and drug dealers did not happen by accident. Helping lower the amount of Governmental Corruption, even by a low percentage, is not by accident. It's better for it to be going down, even by a small amount, than going up. If it's a bigger problem than he originally thought, so what? At least he is attempting to do something about it. Aligning himself in a Big Way with Trump and the USA would be the smartest thing he could do, even with all of the USA's faults and flaws. No other country will ever have the RP's back like the USA. Not Australia, the UK, France, dot dot dot. We are an imperfect people, but at the very least, we are a Freedom loving people, and DO try to help others in search of the same. I admit that there is much corruption in American Politics, which a lot of the public hates as much as anybody, because it breaks down Freedom. I personally feel that any politician caught in a corrupt action needs to suffer - and I mean SUFFER - tremendous, life altering punishment. Something so intense and difficult, that it puts the Fear of God in them. Life in Prison? Sodium Pentathol Injections? Whatever it takes. Only very severe consequences will break the back of bad behavior. A slap on the wrist does not cut it.

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darkfader24
9/2/2019 15:45 EST

Philly - "I'm more concerned about radical Muslims attempting to infiltrate every culture on earth."

I am not so afraid of them trying to infiltrate - as much as Liberals in Governments ALLOWING them to infiltrate neighborhoods, Cities, and Governments. I look at what these Ingrates have done to the UK, France, Germany, Australia, and the USA. They are GUESTS!! Not Entitled Bullies. They need to be Bi*ch Slapped, told to sit down, and shut up!! And no Welfare Checks. Work like the rest of us, instead of making bombs in their kitchens and fomenting plots against their Hosts inside of their Mosques. The moment that one of them is caught doing ANY of this, they need to be pushed off a dock - or tried and summarily executed! Trust me, they would do the same to us in their countries.

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darkfader24
9/2/2019 15:46 EST

Gos - In regards to the SAF 44 - Wow! In the USA we never hear this news!

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darkfader24
9/2/2019 15:52 EST

LarryKar and Goslig - In regards to DU30 suspending the Constitution and implementing Marshall Law - sometimes you need to do extreme moves to get anything accomplished - but there should be a statement regarding the length of time of such a move. Otherwise you run great danger of a Dictatorship. We must always remember, Power Corrupts, Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely. No one is free from Human Nature. We all fall to the lure of Absolute Power - and once that Forbidden Fruit is tasted - it is impossible to turn back. It opens Pandora's Box of ills.

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darkfader24
9/2/2019 15:55 EST

Goslig - Morgac said: "Goslig for a person who professes to be intelligent why do you insist on calling people names and degrading them? I am referring to your comments regarding Dark Fader and others. If you want to get back in the good Grace's of other forum members you need to back off the insults!" I don't recall calling you a name. And I don't recall you calling me one. However, I do miss a lot of posts. No worries. I call myself names all the time. I have a purty guud sense a humor!

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phonedoctor1
9/2/2019 19:04 EST

i agree with all you say, i like that DU30 has aggressively went after the drug dealers, the islands needed to be rid of that ilk ! i will be moving bck to CDO as soon as my house sells and i dont want that around my new house !
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Robertdav298
9/2/2019 20:50 EST

LOVE PHILLY, correct, yes China has a huge population but if you have ever been to mainland China as I have you can see how poor they are, some barely surviving. Yet BEIJING, would have the world believe how strong they are, very similar narrative that comes from the propaganda of NORKOR.
As you said, the real fear is the growing WORLDWIDE MUSLIM population. I have posted this before, just go to you tube and type in MUSLIM DEMOGRAPHICS.......it's all there.

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mootpoint20
9/2/2019 21:04 EST

Morjac: IF there is any truth to the book of Revelation, the only people with 200 million soldiers today is China. The logistics or psychology I leave to chance. Easily, Russia could facilitate a Chinese army moving peacefully through it's country, protected, until it reached Europe. if we were not at war. Where do you nuke them? Why nuke the nation, China, if their entire military is already gone? You simply bomb innocent people. If you're not at war with Russia , you can't bomb a Chinese army inside Russia. How long would all that take to mobilize? Not long. Historically, from Ghenzis Khan onward, the Chinese marched West, not south or East. Lastly, we have a reprieve in President Trump, but sadly we (America) have a decadent culture exploding exponentially. All civilizations go through phases, according to Arnold Toynebee; i.e. Religious, Duty bound, prosperous and luxury oriented,then decadence,and collapse which is inevitable..

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catabisis
9/2/2019 22:49 EST

Love Philly, China is just as dangerous as radical Muslims. When the Far-Right and Far-Left are taken to their extremes, totalitarianism results. China still follows Maoism. Its philosophy asserts that freedom comes from the end of a gun.
The West, and especially the U.S. is run on an economic philosophy of neoliberalism. Corporations run the government. Not the other way around. Citizens have power only until the polls close. Lobbyists control everything afterward. .
It is wishful thinking to surmise that China is going to implode from Western divestment. Trump does not have the means to force corporations out of China. He is talking nonsense. China is in the WTO for a reason and that is not going away. It is true that China’s economy is small comparable to the U.S. They have all intentions to dominate the West by planning 20, 30, and 40 years out.
It is a bit naive to think the U.S. is in its infancy. At 22 trillion in debt the U.S is indeed in decline. Social Security and other social programs are broke. All we are doing it paying interest and borrowing more. The military and Police State is the only thing the powerful on the other side of the pitchforks.
Americans may be proud, but unlike homogeneous China, Americans are very deeply divided along political and especially racial lines. It is a power keg waiting to blow. When the economy completely collapses, and it will due to debt, the whole country will erupt into anarchy and everyone will close ranks with each other according to race.
Then there will be China. Patient, as Asians are known to be. Like a lion hiding in the bushes just waiting to pounce.
Keep an eye on China’s economy. It will continue to grow with the guidance of their central party. They live by the creed of Nikki Khrushchev. He told the West that we would hang with the rope the Russians sell us. China has every intention of succeeding.

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LarryKar
9/2/2019 22:52 EST

Dark: Please dont paint me with Gosligs fevered ramblings. I never said anything about Du suspending the Constitution. I only pointed out that it states one six year term and you are done. I really don't think the wounds of the Marcos years have healed enough yet for that to happen.

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surfingcebu
9/2/2019 23:41 EST

catabiss- I would tell china not to stir the Dragon . The Dragon being the USA and the rets of the free world . they will crush the thugs who now run China .

Remember , China is 25 + cultures / ethnicities , that HATE the central government .... any weakness here ?
They are starving in China .... outside of the big cities(for now )

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catabisis
9/3/2019 05:08 EST

MorgacJ2004, I think you need to spend some time reading economic news about China. The West emptied out their industries for China for a reason. China government controls and exploits everything. They rule by fear and will crush any sect raising against them. Those people are ruthless. All communists are.

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catabisis
9/3/2019 05:09 EST

SurfingCebu. Watch what they do to the Hong Kong protesters soon. They know the implications will be short-lived. Just as it were with the Tiananmen Square massacre.

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darkfader24
9/3/2019 16:18 EST

LarryKar - Apologies. I wasn't trying to connect you with anyone. I was merely trying to address the possibility of DU30 implementing Martial Law on the entire Nation, and I felt that you were somehow involved in that conversation, having posted rules regarding the current Constitution. I didn't want to be rude, and NOT address you, acting like I was ignoring you.

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darkfader24
9/3/2019 16:25 EST

Catalysis - I believe you are correct on the Chinese Central Gov't being ruthless. Yes, ALL Commies are bloody ruthless - the Killing Fields of Pol Pot are just a quick and horrifying example. But not only that, the entire History of China is extremely ruthless. All cultures are guilty of this, but the Chinese hold a special place of on-going brutality for many thousands of years. It is nothing new for their Rulers. And Communism has always painted a picture of Freedom and Equality for the downtrodden. It's funny/sad how it ALWAYS delivers the opposite. It's just a means for ruthless despots to get people to fight for them, so that they can eventually become the All Powerful Rulers. They become even more cruel and despotic than the rulers that they replaced.

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rebtop
9/3/2019 19:30 EST

Well dark your name says it all. I guess you graduated with honors from TU. Trump university. China has become the boogeyman for people like you.

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darkfader24
9/4/2019 01:05 EST

Rebtop - Insult me all that you want, Bud. I won't insult you. Instead, I invite you to discuss. I had my say. I'd love to hear what you really think. Other than "I guess you graduated with honors from TU.". You've already said that. Now, how about something with real substance. Something with facts. We know about the Cambodian Killing Fields, North Korea's slave camps. Mao's "Cultural Revolution" in which many millions of people were tortured and were killed. Stalin's Siberian Salt Mines, etc. Che Guevara and all his murders. Castro's prisons where many languished and were executed. Do you have anything to add?

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darkfader24
9/4/2019 01:11 EST

Rebtop - China IS the Boogeyman for the Philippines, Malaysia, Japan, Vietnam. That is for sure. Care to debate that? Here is something to read:
https://www.newsweek.com/china-south-china-sea-islands-build-military-territory-expand-575161.
And another: https://thediplomat.com/2014/09/why-is-china-building-islands-in-the-south-china-sea/.

What is your take on this, Rebtop? Or are you a Graduate with Honors from China's Communist Propaganda University?

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gypsyquokka
9/4/2019 03:57 EST

Dark Faker - WHY are you so against Rebtop and many others of us who do not share your warped vision of the globe. Each is entitled to their point of view - you included. WHY so critical, and probably you did go to Trump Univ. = says a lot. You and your mates , Surfing and Robert dav have your USA political site where you can pat each other on the backs. NO need for your vicious remarks to flow back again to the main Philippine Forum. Maybe go back to that Uni and take a courtesy and manners course. Smile and have a fun day.

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darkfader24
9/4/2019 05:27 EST

Gypsy - He attacked me this evening. I have never heard of him before. I have no idea who he is. So you, like so many Libs and Muslims LOVE to throw punches but if someone hits you back with your same medicine - you go off cryin' to Mama. What's wrong with you whiners? After this post I will copy you exactly what Rebtop sent to me - as he introduced himself to me for the first time - and you be the judge as to who the aggressor is. If ya can't take the heat stay outta the kitchen. If you will notice, Reb spoke to me his opinion of me, without knowing me. And I answered him back with links to News Articles. If you guys don't agree with the articles, then fine. I would love to discuss it with you. I am not afraid of a good debate. If you will notice, I have never said that your viewpoint was sick and twisted. NEVER!! Copy and paste where I have. You can't cuz I haven't. I am not "so against you", as you say. I am against Your Viewpoint, not you. If you were in danger I would try to help you as much as any Conservative - or any Human Being. Also notice what you just called me: "Dark Faker". You call me "Vicious". You say that I have a warped vision. OK - fair enough regarding your opinion of my vision, but to call me vicious? One of my best friends - you've probably read this before - is a Brilliant Man who has written comedy for the great Jonathan Winters. He is Super Liberal. He truly believes that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney conspired to bring down the World Trade Center Buildings on 9/11/2001. I think that is extremely far fetched - but that's not the point. He is Far Left. I am Far Right. I housed him and fed him, drove him for his meds and Medical Doctor and Psychiatric appointments. His Meds would cost about $600.00 every 3 weeks. He had no money. I paid it out of my pocket. None of his Liberal friends could be found in time of need. They all knew his troubles. I took him to his work at a Radio Station at 5:30 AM. I let him live in my recording studio, sleeping on my couch for 9 months. I spent entire days at times "talking him off the ledge" when he was suicidal and in despair. Another dear friend of mine, "Tim", is an African-American. He is a Hard Core Democrat, and a really cool guy. He also has had many hard times. I've taken him to the grocery store (when none of his Liberal Friends would help him), and said "Fill up your shopping cart. I've got it covered." I've sat with him for long hours while he cried cuz he was so discouraged. Yeah, I'm far right but no one can call me a racist. My first two girlfriends were Black Girls - cuz I grew up the only "Cracka" in an all Black Ghetto in South Philly - back in the 1950s and 60s. One of the Girls, "Sharon Hall" is still friends with me today - 55 years later. She lives near Harrisburg, PA now - while I'm on the West Coast in California. She calls me her Big Brother, and my Mom and Step-Dad her Mom and Dad. Oh, and yeah, she's Democrat - and we're all Conservative Republicans. Watcha gotta say, Gypsy? Notice that I don't call you a nasty name and never have. Sincerely - Dark Faker - Copy of Rebtops introduction to me to follow....

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darkfader24
9/4/2019 05:29 EST

Gypsy - An endearing and kind introduction from Mr. Rebtop: "Posted by: rebtop
Well dark your name says it all. I guess you graduated with honors from TU. Trump university. China has become the boogeyman for people like you.

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darkfader24
9/4/2019 05:30 EST

And my response in kind: "Rebtop - Insult me all that you want, Bud. I won't insult you. Instead, I invite you to discuss. I had my say. I'd love to hear what you really think."

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darkfader24
9/4/2019 05:47 EST

Gypsy - I ain't done. "You and your mates , Surfing and Robert dav have your USA political site where you can pat each other on the backs. NO need for your vicious remarks to flow back again to the main Philippine Forum." Maybe you didn't notice, Gypsy, but THIS IS A THREAD about the threat China posses to the USA. THIS is the place for me, Surf, and RobertDav to discuss this stuff. It is not in the main forum flow of discussions. If you want to debate with your point of view here - please do so!! I'm not stopping you. I promise that I won't call you names or insult you. I will most likely not agree with your opinion - but you don't have to agree with mine either. As you stated, we all have a right to our opinions. I never said that Rebtop was stupid or anything like that when I challenged him. I brought up the indisputable facts of the millions of people murdered by Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, etc. This is historical knowledge. It is fact. I also sent links to News Articles. OK - if he and / or you don't agree, fine. But I would appreciate a counter argument with some facts - not "Dark Faker" or "You must have graduated from Trump U". I mean, is that really an argument? If you guys can't come up with something better than those childish statements, Wow! I hear 2nd Grade kids argue like that. It's called "Sticks and Stones". It's name calling. Adults usually bring something of substance to the table. Calling me a "Faker" or a Trump lover proves nothing.

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catabisis
9/4/2019 05:54 EST

Renton, whats wrong with Trump?

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LovePhilly
9/4/2019 06:43 EST

Dark I'm pretty sure there are some Chinese sharing this site.

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rebtop
9/4/2019 07:02 EST

I am not sure how my response insulted you. What did i say that was not true?

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rebtop
9/4/2019 07:08 EST

Jingoism will take you far, not saying where though. It is the preferred method of scoundrels wrapping themselves in a flag.. TU taught you a lot i see.

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LovePhilly
9/4/2019 08:15 EST

Where it not for insults the ignorant would be speechless.

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gypsyquokka
9/4/2019 10:10 EST

Dark faker - you wrote = Maybe you didn't notice, Gypsy, but THIS IS A THREAD about the threat China posses to the USA. THIS is the place for me, Surf, and RobertDav to discuss this stuff. It is not in the main forum flow of discussions. = Really, your imaginary threat to USA by China - has NOTHING to do with Philippines or this Forum. You listed about Mao, Stalin etc etc who may have been involved in atrocities but omitted to mention the USA government attempted genocide of American red Indians etc . I read all the text you wrote but most is about liberals, democrats, far right, far left etc - that crap is about USA politics, nothing more. You have no ideas what peoples views are on politics, let alone mine - so why guess???? Totally irrelevant. Obviously to you and your mates "GOD" is Trump - that is your opinion and brain closed to any other views. The world is counting down the months to get some sanity in the WH again. I did not read about people asking or mentioning racism or your being a do-gooder to others, as you mentioned in your posting. Smile and have a fun evening.

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Morgacj2004
9/4/2019 11:37 EST

Nice comment Love Philly

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darkfader24
9/4/2019 15:48 EST

Rebtop - Seriously? Well, you said "Dark - your name says it all." for starters. Maybe I'm wrong but I took that as a bit insulting. Please - enlighten me as to what THAT sentence means. Then you said that I was probably a graduate from "Trump U." Since you are probably fairly sure that I am NOT REALLY a graduate from there, and since it has a bad connotation, I'm certain that that statement was meant as an insult. Again, Please enlighten me as to what you meant by it, since you know it really isn't true.

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darkfader24
9/4/2019 15:53 EST

Rebtop, Gypsy, and anyone who gives a blank - here is what my moniker "Darkfader24" really means. It has nothing to do with "Darkness" or "Evil" - it's a joke. It's obviously a play on Darth Vader. A "Fader" is a Sound Volume Slider on a Mixing Console that makes the sound level go up and down. I have several large, and expensive Studio Audio Consoles with hundreds of Faders on them. My Star Wars loving son hung this Moniker on me decades ago. The number 24 has to do with the number of Analog Tape channels that are on an old school analog tape recorder. It's just a little bit of tongue in cheek, that's all.

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rebtop
9/4/2019 19:01 EST

Hey Dark. Funny.! Mitch McConnell uses that moniker also :-)

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darkfader24
9/4/2019 20:20 EST

Rebtop - Mitch McConnel??? Well, at least you have a sense of humor. I like you already.

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darkfader24
9/4/2019 20:25 EST

Reb - so, did you watch the interview with the Chinese Businessman? If so, what do you think? Is he a fraud, a trouble-maker, a liar, does he speak truth? Is he over-reacting? He claims that he has a target on his back. After seeing what Putin had done to that Russian guy in London with the poison, and Kim Jon-Un poisoning his relative in an airport, there is a strong possibility that the guy could be being hunted down.

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Robertdav298
9/4/2019 21:10 EST

DARK........your getting like me......huh?

I despise these people who like to come on this forum and feel they need to insult people while posting. But we know that is what the left is all about, they must shut the light off while looking in the mirror because they do not like what they see.

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Goslig
9/4/2019 22:27 EST

darkfader24 I knew that about your handle, no free-association here. This is an example of a pitfall on this forum.:“Object-Splitting” is a defence (Psychology) the breaking of an object into either “all good” part, or “all bad” part. Chinese tradition of Hegomy is a positive Tropism example of this that they can’t escape. As well, the left and right parts of America need to unite against China. The Philippines (loosing the Spratley group) needed China to fund the oil exploration (creates jobs), but the on-line gambling flourishes regardless of what China demands (creates jobs). There definitely are trolls on this forum; don’t get sucked-into defensiveness. I don’t go there and use sarcasm or delete. Some get along regardless of differences, eh!

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Goslig
9/4/2019 22:52 EST

LovePhilly All the Dem.’s & GOP better know that an American house decided cannot win against China, ‘cus’ China knows.

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Goslig
9/4/2019 22:54 EST

DIVIDED not “decided” iPod ugh!

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darkfader24
9/5/2019 01:50 EST

Goslig - Wow! How right you are. "A House divided against itself cannot win!" I believe that was the amazing Abraham Lincoln quoting Jesus. Truer Words, eh? We have GOT to get it together.

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darkfader24
9/5/2019 01:53 EST

RobertDav - I guess I was a sucker and got "reeled in" like a Marlin in the hands of Ernest Hemingway - LOL. I didn't realize that there were Pinko Commie Trolls here. Now I know better.....

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Robertdav298
9/5/2019 03:20 EST

Philly, Dark and GOS, I am sad to post this but I actually believe that their are those people that relish the idea that the US is divided. They would like a recession, they want our government to fail, the y hate Trump so much that they actually would choose China over their own country. This is a sad time for real Americans all you have to do is read the media for one day and you can see what I mean.

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rebtop
9/5/2019 05:04 EST

I am so confused. what is a real /true American.? Please help me understand.. Applauding kids in cages? Believing a lier when you know he a lies every time he opens his mouth? Flying pence 180 miles from his meeting just so he stays at a trump failing resort? Playing golf constantly and making his minions stay at his resort? As a veteran watching deps vote for the draft-dodger-in-chief? If that is your definition of a true American, i guess i fail the test.

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rebtop
9/5/2019 05:12 EST

What is worse, quoting trump and bannon as truth or calling these people out? Using dubious sources for your claims is so sophomoric that your whole post becomes a waste of space.

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rebtop
9/5/2019 05:21 EST

Dark, you are confusing me again. Putin and Jong-un are very powerful, effective leaders. So Putin and Jong-un murder people? MBS too. They are to be admired for their leadership. I cannot for the life of me remember who said this? Again, can you help me remember?

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darkfader24
9/5/2019 06:24 EST

Rebtop - If you don't know what a Real True American is - then, YES - You failed the test. So, we are giving your seat in class to someone who "Gets It". See ya! Bye Bye. Adios, Muchacho. Hasta La Vista, Baby......

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darkfader24
9/5/2019 06:31 EST

Rebtop - Yes you are a very confused individual. You are exposing yourself as a Putin A*s Kissing, Kim Jon-Un loving, friggin' True Red Pinko Commie. The kind that must be engaged, eliminated, buried. Or converted to The Truth. Nothing personal, Bro. It's just that you are the type that infects young minds that can't think with your Atheistic emptiness. Your heart and your soul are a Black Hole. There is no real, true love nor compassion in there. I wish you would come to the Light Side of the Universe and find peace, Brutha.

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Robertdav298
9/5/2019 06:56 EST

Reb.......yes you failed the test! I am guessing you are an OBAMA man, by your posts?

I am a retired vet of 30 years and under the past admin, I did not get a raise for 8 years, All your guy did cut the military and suck up to his MUSLIM Brotherhood.
Tell me what was the economy like before 2016? What was the employment rate? Who sent billions of dollars to IRAN,,,,,,IN CASH? Oh and who was responsible for the ever popular OBAMA CARE?
Who was the president when our guys were killed in Bengazzi?

So you hate our president? Are you proud of that?

Lastly, about the test you failed where you said.....I guess I failed and asked what a true AMERICAN WAS?

REB......a true AMERICAN supports and RESPECTS the office of the US PRESIDENT, regardless if he likes the man sitting in the office or not.
If you do not like him then vote against him and 2020 but you will again be on the losing side.......AGAIN!

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Robertdav298
9/5/2019 07:06 EST

MOOT20.....suggest you think about what you posted in the scripture i.e. an army of 200000 descending on ISRAEL.

Sir I beg to differ, I think the writer was referring to dark skin men.....PERSIANS......MUSLIMS.......now go to you tube and type in MUSLIM DEMOGRAPHICS.......then lets continue this discussion.

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gypsyquokka
9/5/2019 09:54 EST

Darkfaker - you wrote - Yes you are a very confused individual. You are exposing yourself as a Putin A*s Kissing, Kim Jon-Un loving, friggin' True Red Pinko Commie. - Just because a person does not agree with your perfect USA government, does not mean they are wrong and they do not need your name calling "Red Pinko Commie". One does not have to agree with the communist system BUT in several countries it was / is the only system where a central govt can control the masses and feed them and lift out of poverty, however slowly. I would not care to live under that system but it has provided a vast improvement for millions across the globe. Obviously you dont care for Joing-un but Putin has not all been negative [today or yesteryear].
It is NOT important that anyone on this Forum passes your "What is a True American" - its none of your business what others believe. You are praising that piece of cr*p in the WH for what he is doing = trying to drag the world down to his degraded level = and you are hoping that it will continue after next year. Dont hold your breathe. The USA deserves much much better than that, but you degrade all others who do not agree with your thoughts.
Praise each and every country for what they have achieved in peace = without warmongering. I know your mates agree with your thoughts.
Can you not get back to discussing Philippines and advice etc for others????
Thanks for an explanation about your name - comes from some movie - he he he Smile

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LovePhilly
9/5/2019 10:56 EST

Dark and Robert, you guys nailed it. Look, I celebrate other opinions and ideas that differ from mine. The difference I see now is that a group of Americans have declared war on our own President. That I cannot tolerate. I disagreed with Obama but I supported him as my President because the people elected him. This constant attack by the extreme left on the President offends me. The people who don't like our system and it's flag should go somewhere else and not RP because I like it there. Maybe Africa or somewhere.

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surfingcebu
9/5/2019 11:14 EST

Rebtop- yes your right , the left and Obama put illegal boarder - busters in cages . I think they should be detained , but maybe not in cages like the left has done for so many years . a wall between mayhem and the USA on the south border would cure the problem I think . If you look at history , the drugs and guns going through that boarder as well as Arabs and Africans , he USA is at risk .
SO , you are right . tight boarder security of a physical type - safety for the world . If the USA is not in good health , who would stand up to China/Russia et al ? Taiwan, Sweden , or France? HA!!!!! :)

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Morgacj2004
9/5/2019 13:57 EST

Very true they want DT out at any cost and did not respect the fact he was elected from day one. Main stream media is rh number one culprit

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darkfader24
9/5/2019 14:09 EST

Gypsy - OK - I agree. Oh, wow! And you actually got it. Yeah, my 15 year old named my moniker after a movie. Your intellect is astounding. How did you ever figure it out? Sincerely, The Faker.

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rebtop
9/5/2019 19:18 EST

My question is where have you trumpies escape from? It must have been a very dark place because you still have not seen the light. I post sarcasm and you people do not get it. I can only guess there is a dark section on FB that has leaks.. Please go back to that section and leave normal people alone.

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Morgacj2004
9/5/2019 19:47 EST

The Trumpies were here long before you webtop either accept them or go find another site to complain about

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Robertdav298
9/5/2019 20:37 EST

REBTOP, we could banter at each other until Nov of 2020....right? But after November of 2020 what will you do, where will you go? You will have FOUR more long years of DTand most likely a Republic House and Senate,
Whew....talk about your worst nightmare.

Now lets flip it, lets say uncle JOE beats Trump, here it what will happen, just listen to his campaign message:

1) medicare and medicaid for all. inluding illegals
2) Tax the wealthy up to 95% of earnings
3) Abortion anytime
4) Take away our weapons
5) implement portions of the "green new deal"
6) raise minimum wage to $15
7) remove tariffs from China and allow free trade

There is alot more but these are just a few I can think of.

You sure you hate TRUMP?

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Goslig
9/5/2019 21:00 EST

LovePhilly I find your comment a bit amusing because you’re so vitriolic and it’s the same in the UK and Canada. The Conservatives hate the liberals. Visa Versa. It all comes down to majority rule. A Plutarch is still better than a despot.

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Goslig
9/5/2019 21:35 EST

surfingcebu It’s a far cry from Trudeau inviting ISIS terrorists into Canada with a free pass, free University, health care, welfare. WTF?

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Goslig
9/5/2019 21:37 EST

Morgacj2004 The RP media is owned and operated by the pro-Chinese anti-Duterte Plutarch’s.

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darkfader24
9/5/2019 21:58 EST

Goslig - "It’s a far cry from Trudeau inviting ISIS terrorists into Canada with a free pass, free University, health care, welfare. WTF?" Please don't tell me he really did this. How can one despise his own people and disregard their safety in this manner? What message is he sending? It's like a Babysitter bringing in an Asp or Crocodile to the child's room. We all know what crocodiles do. We all know what ISIS does! I do not understand. Is it an effort to ingratiate himself to these murderous thugs? As you said, Gos - "WTF?"

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LarryKar
9/5/2019 22:16 EST

If you read anything besides " The World According to Trump" you will see all the many signs that the US economy is showing signs of crumbling. While you guys are busy calling each other names the Chinese are playing Trump along trying to decide what the best bet for them is. Some small concessions in the up coming meetings to allow Trump to crow like a Banty Rooster how he saved us all or let the US Economy continue it's decline and assure Trump is history come the election. At which time their bet is that under Biden the world will return to their " normal ". So rave on you Savants of the Right and the Left at the end it's really up to China.

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surfingcebu
9/5/2019 22:27 EST

Goslig - some Europeans and most Americans complain about their immigration system getting abused and flooded ....Canada is the same thing under the left wing ideals of open boarders .

"the left wing guys have great compassion and social services ...then they run out of YOUR money- reality hits... and then all hell breaks loose - huge debt, internal strife ,Nationalism gone, a weak Police Force , and certainly no formidable army .Basically twisting in the wind !! "
Surf !

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surfingcebu
9/5/2019 22:30 EST

Does China have the 'college system' of voting? ...or just the "education camps and 450 Million + bio-metric Cameras " system of voting ? ( joking here :)

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darkfader24
9/5/2019 23:20 EST

Surf - China's System of Voting is either "Stay Home - We'll Vote for You!" or "See how this Army Tank just smashed into paste that Dude over there? You're next, Hamburger Breath!"

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Robertdav298
9/5/2019 23:48 EST

Larry, I have one question for you, now be honest with yourself, is the US better off econically and financially then they were in 2016? Here is a multiple choice question for you:

a) is your life better than it was than 2016

b) worse than it was in 2016

c) stayed the same as before 2016

I know what the answer should be but will you admit it?

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Robertdav298
9/6/2019 00:17 EST

GOS, I think you are old enough to remember that it wasn.t always this way in our country. i.e. this outright hatred OR at least how the media portrays it.

I think it's the media and HOLLYWOOD that has this hatred for TRUMP. It is their constant barrage of manutia spewing over the airways and into our homes.

In all honesty I have trouble believing that in our congressional halls the LIBERALS hate the CONSERVATIVES.

Do you believe its possible?

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Goslig
9/6/2019 00:49 EST

darkfader24 Currently the Canadian border is wide open to anyone especially Syrians and people from Central America who walk into Canada (particularly Ontario). However, Alberta (conservative stronghold) is very different. Trudeau gives 60 million a year for gay parades. There’s an election coming to boot the liberals back to a minority party. He’ll just hold his riding where gays and women re-elect him. Ontario courts (OMG):
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/274351/jihadi-stabs-three-canadian-soldiers-canadian-robert-spencer#.XTHMXxikKuU.facebook

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Goslig
9/6/2019 01:02 EST

Robertdav298 My nostalgia for the US is based on 1944-1990 the “golden era”, before all the horse feathers began. I could walk 47th Street (all black ghetto on Chicago’s South Side) go to a fitness club, and all that happened was a few stares sometimes smiles. If I tried that today, I’d be shot in a drive-by. The “me generation” changed everything. All you get now is a Left Hook or a Right Cross.

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darkfader24
9/6/2019 01:13 EST

Robert - I agree very much with your last post, but I DO believe that some Liberals actually really do Hate some of the Conservatives - and to a much lesser degree vice versa. I say that because of my many staunch Conservative friends, even though they totally Hate the objectives, agendas and World View of the Left, they don't actually hate the people who are Liberal. Dislike maybe, but not hate. I, for one cannot stand that idiot Ocasio-Cortez. But I DO NOT hate her as human being. I would NEVER want harm to come to her ever - at all. I wish she'd sit down and be quiet. The idea that she has power as a representative in our Country;s esteemed Halls of Congress is horrifying to me. It's not so much as her incredible ignorance, but her Aggressive Arrogance. But it would grieve me if physical harm would ever come to her. We won't go into the Bernie Sanders supporter who shot up all the Congressmen just trying to play some Baseball. OK - Alexandria Rant over. Now, in regards to Hollyweird and the Media - yes, they have tried their hardest with a constant drum beat to get people to buy into the idea that Trump is how I described Ocasio-Cortez. In a close examination they found that over the last 2 & 1/2 years 93% of all Media stories on Trump were negative. Bias, anyone? In spite of throwing everything that they could at him, his popularity is currently hovering around the 50% mark, in some polls exceeding 50%. That's because even in the face of extreme odds - as in even many Republicans don't support him - he has accomplished many of his campaign promises. Not all - but it's only been 2 & 1/2 years. Obama declared "How you gonna bring all those jobs back? Wave a Magic Wand?" That's because Obama was raised NOT to believe in our Capitalistic System. Or America. He was hostile to the idea. He didn't believe in the True Cause of America. We were the reason for many of the World's ills. America was forever tainted because of the Great Sin of Slavery. We could never be redeemed or forgiven - even though hundreds of thousands died for the cause of freeing the slaves. He doesn't believe in Forgiveness or Redemption. What Obama doesn't realize is All Men are Sinners - including himself. This Country has striven to correct it's wrongs. It is far from perfect - as all Nations are far from perfect - but that's because it is made up of imperfect people. The entire World is this way. American Exceptionalism comes from Freedom. And our Freedom comes from that incredible document called The Constitution. We must protect it and revere it at all costs. So, Trump comes along and says "Who says we can't bring many of those jobs back - that we lost to other countries?" And with confidence in our cause and an ability to negotiate, our economy is doing amazingly well. The numbers don't lie. Lowest unemployment rate for Hispanics and African-Americans ever recorded. Lowest unemployment rate overall since 1969 - 50 years! Dealing with a massive problem at our Southern Border. It's strange to me how the World condemns us regarding us wanting to carefully "Vette" who comes in here - and yet, their Borders are very tightly controlled, even closed in some cases. Mexico shoves their people at us - but try getting into Mexico!! Can you imagine how Mexico or many Countries would act if 10 Thousand people were leaping over it's walls, crossing over each day in these numbers? Wow! It wouldn't be pretty.

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Robertdav298
9/6/2019 02:35 EST

Dark, we are brothers from a different mother....LOL. Very good post, I have not resided in the US full time since 2013 and before that I was always in other countries working for mine, so it is hard for me to feel the "heartbeat" of AMERICA.
Most of my family is from the Dakotas and were struggling before 2016 but now I only hear good things from my cousins, aunts and uncles. Trump has done wonders for my people and they are grateful for that. At least now we are allowed to speak our native tongue in our schools.

By the way DARK, If I were you I would definitely have my wife sign you up for Phil Health at least you will have some coverage. For the non life threatening illness you can go to a local doctor as the cost ranges from 250-500ph total. Not bad considering most co-pays are $25 and up.

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Goslig
9/6/2019 03:31 EST

D’fafer - maybe you believe that Trump is like Gary Cooper in High Noon. “Do not forsake me, oh my darlin”. Thing is, his Quaker wife pulls a gun to save his life in the end. Those Quakers are so Liberal, but they will standup for you when you’re down.

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gypsyquokka
9/6/2019 03:55 EST

Robertdav and Faker - Your list of 7 topics that Biden OR warren etc would introduce would ALL be for the benefit of all working class citizens. Only your rich buddies would lose out. You only have to wait one year plus to see YOUR biggest nightmares become reality = he he he . I have to agree with LarryKar that China is playing with Trump and enjoying the game, and why not. DT says YES today and NO tomorrow as he is confused as to how to make his own economy worse. Smile, you are both as amusing as the Ziegfeld Follies.

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Goslig
9/6/2019 04:26 EST

gypsyquokka DT knows the negotiation trick of “come-closer (then) go-away”. It’s how you drive someone crazy. Domestic issues (environment) will Trump foreign relations. The deficit for the first four months of this budget year, which began Oct. 1, totaled $310.3 billion. That’s up from a deficit of $175.7 billion in the same period a year ago, a 77% rise. The surplus in January was $8.7 billion. a revenue increase of 2.3% hasn’t kept pace with a 9.3% rise in spending. Trump has repeatedly boasted that the U.S. is taking in billions in dollars through the tariffs, though importers in America are actually paying the levies. Something has gotta give. Going bankrupt is not a GOP calling card.

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LarryKar
9/6/2019 04:49 EST

Robert I do not pretend to have much knowledge on Indian Affairs so I found your implicated statement that somehow due to Trump your family can now speak their Mother Tongue in their home. That in itself is great and I call it progress. I did find that Gov. Kristi Noem signed a bill into law, to go into effect July 1, that recognizes the language of the O'ceti Sakowin, which is comprised of the dialects of Lakota, Dakota and Nakota, as the official indigenous language of South Dakota. The bill sponsor was Senator Troy Heinert, A DEMOCRAT. I could find no indication that Trump had any part of it. As to everyone being giddy about things in general I again don't know Indian Affairs in Dakota. I do know Iowa and Illinois farmers however and for the large part they are not happy. Nor are a a huge number of West Virginia Coal Miners.

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rebtop
9/6/2019 06:01 EST

The most egregious thing about this whole trump thing is his lying and his minions believing every word. The wall is not being paid for by Mexico. That money is coming from the military budget, housing, education, equipment,supplies. This is my military. The service i serviced. And by a demented draft dodger. Any questions or challenges?

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rebtop
9/6/2019 06:16 EST

I would like to comment on your post. It is coming from a victim perspective. “The world hates us”.... you are wrong. The world hates what and how you do things. YOU are not that important. I dislike our politicians, all self serving people, ALL OF THEM. There may be a very few exceptions.

Health care, for example Medicare, should be available to all. It is not free. Everyone in Medicare pays the same premium.

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rebtop
9/6/2019 06:33 EST

Be honest here. Who followed Clinton as president, the golden years? Republican president Bush. He gave us the second biggest economic scare in my lifetime. Who followed that president and pulled us out of that depression? A democrat, Obama. Who followed that president and is giving us the largest federal deficit in our history? Trump. And who will give us the next biggest scare in our history? Tump. Comments.

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rebtop
9/6/2019 06:43 EST

Robert your crystal ball is not complete. Trump will push our deficit to quadtrillion $, not sure what that number is, and bankrupt us. He will than declare an emergency and institute Marshall law. He will balance the budget by fiat. Cut social services. Your older relatives SS and Medicare will be cut drastically. Venezuela?
Which result do you want?

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rebtop
9/6/2019 06:45 EST

Morga please go back to the dark and dank FB corner you came from. Let the rest of us breath fresh air.

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Goslig
9/6/2019 07:12 EST

Rebtop - I’m not disagreeing with your take on politics, but what makes you think that your more “entitled” than another American who didn’t go into the military? There are a lot of ways to serve your country, ask any first responder.

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Robertdav298
9/6/2019 08:30 EST

rebtop.....wrong about medcare

part A is free for those that are age 65 AND have worked enough hours/years to qualify. Part A covers hospital care.

Part B covers doctor visits and cost you each month plus an annual deductible.
There are some things that PART B does not cover and that is why the majority of the people on medicare have a supplement insurance.
Niether A or B cover prescription drugs or daily maintenance meds.
Part D is for prescription drugs BUT there is a list of what they cover AND you have to pay monthly for PART D.

Glad I graduated from TRUMP U.....helps me know things like this.......SMILE

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Robertdav298
9/6/2019 08:54 EST

REBTOP.....serving in the military is something I commend you for many servicemen paid the ultimate price for our freedom. The men and women who serve our community everyday should also be commeded.

Now let me ask you a question did TRUMP renegotiate the NAFTA TRADE DEAL? Now you said that MEXICO is not paying for the wall like TRUMP said they would and at face value that is a true statement. However; if you get into the long term specifics of the new deal MEXICO is indeed paying for the wall....so to speak.......you see if you ever read the book ART OF THE DEAL then you would appreciate the subtle things that a true business man can negotiate to his advantage and make you think you got the best of him.

Are you familiar with General Patton from WWII? Well PAtton was a true military mind he was no politician but Eisenhower feared him because the people liked him and Eisenhower had aspirations of running for president after the war.
Point I am making is that the liberals fear DT because he is not a politician and they cannot figure out his next move so they spend millions of US $$ which is tax payer money on the Russia Hoax.......the money they spent could have helped the homeless in SF, LA, Baltimore and many other democrat run cities.

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Goslig
9/6/2019 09:41 EST

The real enemy of Americans is the degradation of the environment. The way DT sets priorities about the environment is a testament to his ignorance. Distraction is what a parent uses with a child that is decompensating. My “great big beautiful wall”? Give me a break. The environment is at a tipping point. Listen to the Democrats platform. No resonance? Just wait. Your kids will suffer the irreversible consequences of inaction, but the wall will be there to keep refugees out. Go figure!

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surfingcebu
9/6/2019 11:02 EST

Goslig, I think DT has to mandate - somehow- China and Russia to fall in line on the environment.

to have China and Russia and India /pakistan do what they are doing ....and we little people get our plastic straw taken away just is not logical on the USA govt side of things .

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LovePhilly
9/6/2019 11:19 EST

Everybody keeps making a big deal about the border wall. It's not about the money, it's about hate for our President and attempting to deny him anything he and the American people want.

Our annual budget is about 1,100 billion dollars. We spend 54% of this on our military to defend the world. If the one time cost of a wall is 30 billion dollars, its a drop in the bucket.

This is not about the money, it's pure hate.

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mootpoint20
9/6/2019 11:23 EST

Now, let me get this straight, we are talking about the "Great Wall of China", right? As to Climate Change proposed by the lugubrious wing of Expats, why not impose it first in Los Angeles, especially their highway system or perhaps Costa Rico. If it works in that area, we can then impose it over the entire world. As to regulating Climate Change, I am willing to govern and collect fines for the rest of you chaps. I'll send you your share of money at the end of the month, honestly. Sincerely, One-More-Demented Liberal.

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Goslig
9/6/2019 11:41 EST

mootpoint20 Nickel/dime climate change is much worse than lugubrious, it’s death of the planet. Think Scientific American Magazine. The ozone will be gone, and the oceans taken over by jellyfish. The use of fossil fuels is the death nell. The whole economy needs a reset. Job transitioning. China is doing it, Germany has done it. You really believe that the budget for the military in 2019, $693,058,000,000, will change that? Or any following year? Fools rush in where wise men fear to tread. This is the real wall that is needed to survive. Otherwise aim to be one of the select few super elite that will survive for a while under a polar dome, while everyone else is dead.

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mootpoint20
9/6/2019 14:46 EST

Ah, I see! "...a polar dome."? ( Hmmm! Of course. ) Have we been taking all of our medications? Now, don't be ashamed...speak up! It happens to everybody, young man. You have nothing to be ashamed of.

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phonedoctor1
9/6/2019 15:49 EST

very true but we do need the wall it is a necessity we need tro stop all the illegals we need to only allow vetted people with skills

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darkfader24
9/6/2019 15:58 EST

Goslig - Having known some Quakers in my life (I'm from Penssylvania - William Penn The Quaker's State) I know this to be true. Quakers are interesting and amazing people. They were totally on board with the Underground Railroad in the 1850s and 60s. There was a Lady Friend of my Mom's who was Quaker - we met her when we moved to New Mexico. She came from a very wealth family back in PA but had married a poor Navajo Indian man. They had 2 daughters who were my schoolmates in high school. One of them, Elizabeth Abeyta, became a VERY Famous Navajo Artist. Her work was gorgeous and fetches lots of $$$. Sadly, she died at a young age from some weird disease. Now her work goes for huge sums.

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darkfader24
9/6/2019 16:10 EST

Gypsy - You just don't get it, Bro. Trump changing his mind is not him being confused. He's confusing you and the other "not-so-bright bulbs". Haven't you noticed? He does it ALL the time! He is throwing his opponents. He talks about this openly in "The Art of The Deal". He's playing "Poker" with everyone - says one thing, reels them in, then does or says the opposite. China's economy appears strong - but only because the Country / Population is so large. Per capita - it is weak. The USA has the strongest economy - and without us, China would really be hurting. That's why when Trump starts a new round of tariffs they come running to the bargaining table. In regards to a big recession coming to the USA - this is a Media hoax designed to frighten everyone and rattle Wall Street - in order to upset the 2020 Election in favor of the DNC. Even if the Stock Market plunges 700 points in a day - at the end of the day, it is still thousands of points higher than it ever was under Obama! Get A Clue, Dude!

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darkfader24
9/6/2019 16:36 EST

Goslig - Wait a second. How can we end up under a Polar Dome, when all we have been hearing about is The Polar Caps are melting? This is the confusion of the message that comes from the Climate Change People. The "consensus" is this or that. The Consensus in Christopher Columbus' day was that the Earth was flat. Here is just a small part of my take: The Earth has a sealed environment, just like a Terrarium. Oxygen does not leak out into outer space nor does that incredible expanse of vacuum suck it out. A Miracle of God, in my humble opinion. In a terrarium all temps go up and down evenly - overall. So NYC and Syracuse, NY are measured in the 1800s as a certain level. 150 years later, NYC has gone way up, but Syracuse hasn't - and they are not far from each other. Explanation? NYC now has much more cement, asphalt, glass (on the tall buildings), cars, industry. It's localised, not Global. I have friends who have travelled to Thailand, China, and India. The pollution in those countries is unspeakable, from their reports. I hear the same about the RP. Canada and the USA can do an admirable job controlling their pollution, but how much good will it do if the other countries don't participate?

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Tsmslf
9/6/2019 16:54 EST

Mr. Gasbag:

"What is China's biotech warfare capabilities?"

Equal to your grammar I would pray.

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Morgacj2004
9/6/2019 17:09 EST

Whatever ragtop! Your comments are irrelevant to the majority of us!

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Morgacj2004
9/6/2019 17:13 EST

Everyone can stop talking about the wall it is already being built using both private and Govt funds. Baby Mike are already completed Trump keeps bringing it up with the idiot mainstream media to divert their attention. He is a master at doing this.

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rebtop
9/6/2019 18:28 EST

MarjacOff. Please read other news than brietbart type articles. I really worry about this country with people like you. Trump is a conman. And you are being conned. Open you mind, just little,

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Tsmslf
9/6/2019 18:29 EST

It was directed at Mr. Gasbag but, somehow, as irrelevant as you said it was, you couldn't keep your mouth shut thus illustrating a contradictory position.

And on what evidence do you claim to speak for the majority on this site? None is offered.

Plus, of course, what I wrote about Mr. Gasbag was precisely correct as even you did not object to its accuracy.

All of which leaves you exposed to those for whom you allegedly speak.

Ad hominem will not get you very far Sir as I have heard whistles like you blow before.

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rebtop
9/6/2019 18:42 EST

Goslig. It takes a thinker to understand the concepts, GW is a real issue. Tying to revive coal industry jobs is folly.

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rebtop
9/6/2019 18:57 EST

Lovephil. I am from Phl. Imagine Obama driving government business to his 5 golf courses Making his family advisors. Going crazy with a sharpy and changing the direction of a hurricane.. Stealing money from military housing where in Fl military housing is mold infested. Moving money from building military schools and allowing 50 kids to a class. Golfing 4 days a week. Want to lynch OBAMA?

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rebtop
9/6/2019 19:18 EST

Robert. You show the classic symptoms of a TU grad. I mentioned Medicare and you dissected it. The repugs made the donut hole in D. “We cannot trust any other country in the whole universe to supply American drugs” . Medicare cannot make competitive drug purchases and have to accept the price Big Pharma sets. Canada is a the biggest industry for packaging our drugs.. And then ships them back to us. But we cannot get drugs from Canada. Against the law. Get it trumpy?

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Goslig
9/6/2019 20:22 EST

rebtop. I read all your posts. Good to have a kindred spirit on the Forum. Compounded with the degradation of the environment, loss of rainforest, and so on, you have the Malthusian phenomena where the population doubles every 25 years (a generation). China’s population is 1.43 billion this year. It doesn’t grow enough food to support itself. The population of the US is 329,408,984 as of Wednesday, September 4, 2019. Double those numbers for 2045. Guess what happens to China. All America has to do is lock China out of its sea lanes and wait. You’re going to need to know how to play your Philippine card or that can’t happen.

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Goslig
9/6/2019 20:39 EST

Tsmslf carry on farting into the wind. I remain upwind of your smelly posts. Did I pop your Narcissistic Bubble? I know you’re in love with yourself, so I’m not worried. You don’t have feelings.

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Goslig
9/6/2019 21:13 EST

Hey Fader good follow up. Look at this:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwi0pZuYwb3kAhUKat4KHW6cDeUQFjAAegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsciencenordic.com%2Fclimate-climate-change-denmark%2Fwhat-will-our-climate-look-like-in-2050%2F1449247&usg=AOvVaw2BFs4q6tIsQ38MKdLnbqMc

The projection I quoted )from memory) was made by the elder most recognised researcher in the field of global climate change. Younger researchers stated he’s a little off his rocker (angry old man). So I looked up the above. It’s a short read. All the doubting thomas’s on the Forum need to read this before challenging me further, including the ad-hoc grammar police. I’ll respond to any questions as to the veracity of this article. What happens when ocean temperatures rise 3 degrees Celsius is the jellyfish take over.

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Goslig
9/6/2019 21:29 EST

Fader - Herbert Clark Hoover was an American engineer, businessman, and politician who served as the 31st president of the United States from 1929 to 1933. A member of the Republican Party, he held office during the onset of the Great Depression. His small cabin home is still preserved in West Branch, Iowa. I’ve been there. He was a Quaker too. Started the League of Nations. Son of a blacksmith. Graduate of Stanford.

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darkfader24
9/6/2019 21:38 EST

Rebtop - "Want to lynch OBAMA?" Hey hey hey Pal. Those are mighty strong words - especially in regards to an African-American. I'd advise you to stand down. Maybe the conversation is starting to get too heated here. I don't think it is appropriate to make such insinuations. We are all entitled to our opinions and freedom of speech - until it starts to cause harm.

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darkfader24
9/6/2019 22:27 EST

Goslig - I look forward to reading the GW Article. Thanks. It's a fascinating subject.
I have no problem with "Climate Change" - Remember Carol King & James Taylor - "Winter, Spring, Summer, or Fall....." The climate is always changing. It's the power of man or lack there of to have any control over the environment on a Global Scale that I dispute. Nature has so much power above our own, we are miniscule in comparison. I believe we are stewards of our World. We must love it and care for it. It's always much nicer to look at a bed of Roses than a pile of garbage. I'd also rather smell aPine Forest than Jeepney exhaust. However, the power of a Mt. St. Helen's is so much greater than combining many nukes together. And volcanoes are always going off. We can't control this. Hurricanes, Tornados, Tsunamis, Tidal Waves - wow! We can't start them or stop them. They've been happening for millenia before we arrived. BTW - All that ash that filled the skies globally from all of these volcanos has been completely cleaned up by Mother Nature. The Exxon Valdez made such a mess that the valiant efforts of humans did very little to help the environment. The Ocean cleaned it up. The Ocean has life in it that feeds on oil. Millions of barrels of oil rise up through fissures in the ocean floor where sea life consumes it. God's design? IF there was an Ice Age, it has been suggested, due to erosion patterns, that the Ice was up to 3,000 feet thick. More than 1/2 mile! What part of the Industrial Revolution dissolved the Ice Age? If this did indeed happen, that was a pretty powerful thing and had nothing to do with us humans. Now we are told that ALL of our Global Industry is starting (just starting) to melt glaciers. If so, what melted 3,000 feet of ice surrounding the entire planet? Back around 1966 I saw at a Planetarium a film where the scientists were predicting a coming Ice Age. Then in the mid 1970s Jane Fonda and then husband Tom Hayden were conducting these seminars with scientists scaring people about the impending Ice Age. Now it's flipped. No no no!! It's not an Ice Age - it's the opposite!! Again, Consensus. Not facts. The consensus used to be the Earth was Flat. One year the consensus is here comes the Ice. The next year........ In 1988 actor Ted Danson said that within 10 years nothing in the sea would be edible. That was 31 years ago. I'll bet he enjoyed eating Sushi last night. In the mid 1990s there was a guy - can't remember his name or committee - from the United Nations. The committee had oversight of Global Warming conditions. He said in 8 years or some such the World would not be able to reverse it's deadly course. Now - 18 years later the beginning of the end - Ocasio-Cortez says we have 12 years to reverse it!! Someone needs to tell her we are WAAAAY too late. We crossed that threshold in 2003. So now we are ALL doomed and it's way way way to late. We all might as well go out for Sushi and enjoy ourselves like the Epicurians. "Eat, Drink, and be Merry, for Tomorrow We All Die!". NO ONE IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR WORDS! I'd love to shove a camera and mic in these peoples' faces and ask them if the World has already ended - and I just didn't get the memo!!

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darkfader24
9/6/2019 22:33 EST

Goslig - I KNOW that you are very open minded - and you do your research. "Enquiring Minds want to know!" Anyway, check out this article with plenty of proof - as to the corruption within some of the key Scientific Communities involving Global Warming.. I became aware of this many years ago - and have been quite leery of these people for awhile. This article concerns discovered emails showing scientists trying to circumvent the Freedom of Information Act regarding how they arrived at their numbers, with people admitting that they did not do things correctly on purpose, fudged numbers, etc. Shocking! https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/24/the-people-vs-the-cru-freedom-of-information-my-okole/

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darkfader24
9/6/2019 22:37 EST

Goslig - Did not know that about Prez Hoover. I heard that they had not come up with a name for that great edifice, when he showed it to a friend. Upon seeing it he exclaimed "Hoover, DAMN!!" And the name stuck...... Sorry - made that up for ya - just now. Bad bad bad........ :-)

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Goslig
9/6/2019 23:28 EST

Oops! Woodrow Wilson started the League of Nations. I saw this error after re-reading my post. More editing Gos! There are those who negatively scan every word of yours. No matter.

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Goslig
9/6/2019 23:41 EST

Fader - In 2010 4.9 million barrels (210 million US gal; 780,000 m3) of oil was dumped into the Gulf of Mexico when BP's Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded. The effects of the BP oil spill will continue to be felt by future generations, as contamination has been found throughout the entire food chain. More than 8,000 marine birds, sea turtles and marine mammals were found dead or injured within months of the clean up effort. The impact of this disaster has unbalanced the food web of the environment. The oil spill occurred at the height of breeding season and as result affected egg and larval animals to the worst extent wiping entire age classes. This loss of a generation down the line will prove dire for future predators of the ecosystem. Yeah sh#t happens.

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Goslig
9/6/2019 23:48 EST

Fader - your link to Popper is good and lays out the scientific method clearly. Good post.

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mootpoint20
9/7/2019 01:38 EST

We have just had 18 years of global cooling. I imagine most research is retroactive, but if I can alter your opinion with the facts, I would attempt to do my best. With Obama in Paris agreeing to some UN resolution of 'Climate Change' America slipped. First, the phrase, Global Warming is no longer used, because factually it's not happening, and logic dictates we cannot control the weather of Canada which blows into America unless we have authority over both countries. So, Voila! Globalism is effected chiefly by alarming each person's banal concern for 'rain-clouds'. A One-World Vision is peacefully achieved without 'killing all the capitalists'. It's a childish notion by pseudo-Marxists. Other than that I hope you all have a great day!

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Robertdav298
9/7/2019 02:26 EST

REB......I gave you a lesson on medicare because you posted something incorrect.....get it!

Dude your moral compass is so far left you will never be able set the scale back to zero.

DT.....has figured out what to do with CHINA, just like GOSLIG posted......the tariffs hurt them badly......have you checked the dollar lately versus the yuan,,,,,,I forsee another lesson in the near future.......this one will be world economics.

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Robertdav298
9/7/2019 02:37 EST

You guys are real comedy, its funny to watch men 70 years plus calling each other names hell most of cannot even make the sand bubble when we piss anymore.......humor is always good medication....even for liberals.

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gypsyquokka
9/7/2019 03:08 EST

Faker - WOW, you just do not get it, do you. Thinking that most people on the Forum are blind and stupid - apart from your mates. Much of the dribble you write, especially about China and Global Warming, suggests a pre-teen thinking. Can you please just open your mind, even a couple of days a week to learn something about reality????? DT is playing with you, like a dog on a leash - but the dog knows it is a game HE HE HE > Dont call me bro or Dude or equally insulting terms - as i would never be your friend. IF you want a friend - maybe talk to Rebtop and he seems very clued up about many facts = that you need to listen to and learn. Take your head out of the sand Faker and look around at the world - See what is going on and what your GOD is really doing. Have a fun day and smile

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LarryKar
9/7/2019 03:23 EST

American Meteorological Society
"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide."
*** Thank God we have God's Chosen One to lead us away from the wrong thinking above. 97 % of the world's Climate Scientists and the Governments of almost every country are wrong. Only DT and his minions know the truth. Oh and look out Alabama that sucker may yet plunge south at Nova Scotia and get yeah.

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rebtop
9/7/2019 06:28 EST

Seems that the two camps, anti and pro DT, look at him thru a different filter. The anti know he is a conman and a liar. The pro brush that aside and give him credit for so-called achievements. The anti know how ruthless and self serving he is. The end justifies the means kind of guy. Collateral damage is acceptable kind of guy. I win, you lose kind of guy, and the more you lose, the better kind of guy. The pro do not think about the damage he is causing as long as he wins for the team. The pro accept the fouls as long as he scores. This country will never be the same. Ignorance is the new norm.

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Goslig
9/7/2019 08:59 EST

rebtop that’s an accurate depiction of a sociopathic Narcissist. Ask any Psychologist or Psychiatrist.

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gelynch52ph
9/7/2019 10:02 EST

We don't "fear DT because he isn't a politician." We are DISGUSTED by everything he does, says and tries to do in violation of the law and the Constitution.

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mootpoint20
9/7/2019 16:39 EST

Lowest unemployment for minorities in 50 years. I imagine most of the green-house gases will come from white butts in Asia.

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darkfader24
9/7/2019 17:30 EST

GE LYnch - Don't call you "Bro or Dude" - yet you call me Faker?!? F*!K You - how bout dat, Mo Fo? Personally, I don't care that you call me "Faker - but you're such a Hypocrite to attempt to demean me with "Faker" - and then say that I insult you with "Bro or Dude". Those are at least somewhat endearing names while Faker is not. F-ING Hypocrite!! Go ahead and get me kicked off the Forum - you POS! I really don't care.

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darkfader24
9/7/2019 17:33 EST

Rebtop - That sounds like Obama and would be Hillary that you are describing there.

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rebtop
9/7/2019 18:26 EST

Moot.. trump has been in office for 2 year.s According to you he has changed the direction of a hurricane, fit a million people at his inaugural in an area that holds 400K, made America the most loved country in the universe, reduced the deficit to $1, built a 10K mile wall with Mexican money,... hat else can i say?

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rebtop
9/7/2019 18:29 EST

Obama was not my favorite president, so say what you want about him. Hillary probably would have been as bad as trump. At least i am in reality and not a minion of the Don.

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Goslig
9/7/2019 21:28 EST

rebtop. You’re last post was a very well written remark. Kudos

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mootpoint20
9/7/2019 22:06 EST

Getting wrapped up in the personal vitriol of people, especially the arrogant ones will waste you're sincere attempt at enjoying this forum for education. I can see need by some to inflate their 'ego'. Exactly why they insult people here, is a mystery to me, but it has little to do with being 'helpful'. It's neurotic. The person is simply baiting people to react and it matters little whether you learn anything. If that person fools some by flattery, and stabs others he becomes the 'center of attention' while damaging the cohesion and purpose of the group. So, I feel it may be better to shut down any more political 'trash-talk'. Nobody is living in China, or America and Nobody is being illuminated or benefitted by it. Good luck!

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mattinnorfolk
9/7/2019 22:14 EST

Well said Moot, I am sick of the political trash talk and why there are so few members. I wish the 4 or 5 members that want to argue against a wall would do a whasapp or Facebook group and waste time there and we can get on to better things here. I have seen so many names there are no longer here drop out in the last couple of years . Sad. We got a think about getting a moderator for the site .

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Goslig
9/8/2019 00:45 EST

Some folks on this forum ain’t got der cornbread dun in the middle.

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Robertdav298
9/8/2019 01:01 EST

WELL SAID .....MOOT......I have better things to do than write on this forum.

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catabisis
9/8/2019 03:46 EST

darkfader24 said “Obama & Trudeau pissed off Duterte, who I think is Trump with a heart.”

You’re funny, Darkfader24. Trump doesn’t go around blowing people away without a trial and bragging about it.

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catabisis
9/8/2019 04:03 EST

I believe there is about as much truth to Duterte talking his way out of an assassination as there is truth to Duterte exploiting the nonsense that Davao is the 4th safest city in the world.
You left out that NPA founder, Jose Maria Sison was Duterte’s me tor for over 40 years until they had a fallout once Duterte became president.
Duterte’s chief of staff in Davao was none other than former NPA commander, Leoncio Evasco Jr.. Accordibg to Wikipedia, he served as campaign manager of Duterte when he ran in the 1988 mayoral elections. He served as OIC of the city engineer's office from 1989-1990. Evasco headed the economic enterprise office before being appointed as chief of staff of Duterte.

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catabisis
9/8/2019 04:29 EST

Yeah, like the U. S can fight another war

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darkfader24
9/8/2019 04:31 EST

RebTop - I agree with you and Goslig. Please don't pass out.

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rebtop
9/8/2019 08:00 EST

Cata. Give trump time to catch up. He is just getting started. If he gets reelected, who knows what he is capable of. He just withheld aid from Ukraine for not cooperating and giving information about Biden.

Nothing is beneath trump. Nothing. He has no moral compass.

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rebtop
9/8/2019 08:30 EST

Mat. I would like the commenters here that argue for a wall would go back to reading Breitbart and circle jerking. Stop wasting valuable space with juvenile comments that are very shallow and thoughtless.

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Goslig
9/8/2019 09:08 EST

catabisis You don’t get it because you don’t live in the Philippines. You are quoting me, not darkfader24. Why do you make simplistic statements about DU-30? Did you know he has a 79% approval rating? DU-30 was angered by Trudeau and Obama and told them to FO. I watched it on TV. Why? Because they were sucked in by liberal party propaganda. Yes there were some EJK’s of meth dealers who didn’t grab their guns. The murder rate in the Philippines is 9.84% p/100,000. Whereas the murder rate in the US is 5.3%p/100,000. The RP is more violent than the US. You are just making a ‘here say’ remark about EJK’s in the Philippines. You have no factual evidence. There probably were some EJK’s of drug lords and at least one politician since DU-30 was elected
Between 1990 and 2005, Amnesty International recorded 19 executions in the United States for crime committed by a juvenile.
In 2003, Amnesty International reported those who kill whites are more likely to be executed than those who kill blacks, citing that of the 845 people executed since 1977 80 percent were put to death for killing whites and 13 percent were executed for killing blacks, even though blacks and whites are murdered in almost equal numbers. You’ll fit right in with all the rest of the Trump halo polishers here. Your opinions are just that. You have no evidence. For comparison sake, consider the following facts:
As of December 2017 the United States had the highest percentage of people in prison of any nation,
or roughly 1 out of every 136 Americans. The length of the average prison sentences (for all crimes) in the United States far exceed those in most other countries. The United States is currently the country with the most life sentences, most of which are life without parole.

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Goslig
9/8/2019 09:48 EST

catabisis The story about the NPA capturing Duterte with the intention of killing him is true. I read that story in the Newspaper when Duterte was mayor of Davao where I have lived since 2012. During his career as mayor, Duterte cleaned up Davao and there was a Davao Death Squad that everyone knew about and supported. Davao City is now the fifth safest city in the world, improving from its ninth-place ranking last month, according to the data release by Numbed.com. Jun 24, 2015. The report I saw on Facebook was that it had moved into 4th place. Go to Google.

My previous posts did mention that Duterte was a student of Sison. Your claim that Sison was his mentor for over 40 years is completely false. Duterte has recently ordered the arrest of Sison and all the NPA members and their University recruiters. You are accurate in stating that due process is fast and loose in the RP, Remember that Marcos ruled under martial law for 14 years, 1972-1968. If you’re planning on living in the Philippines, If I were you, I would be more careful about what you say about DU-30. His current approval rating is 79%. It’s their country and we are their guests remember. Libel laws are quite strict here, and you can be deported for embarrassing a Pinoy..

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Goslig
9/8/2019 10:07 EST

Marcos ruled under martial law from 1972 to 1986 (not 1968). Regrets the typo.

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surfingcebu
9/8/2019 11:13 EST

Goslig- I think on the whole DU30 has done a great job . Great courage , he has. I always question his movement to normalize relations with China and hence the borrowing ( which can't be done) , however , on the whole terrific President for the country in its time right now !
What he did with Davao , was nothing short of a miracle ! Great city ! ...complete with marshal law ! , which helps the city function rather than hampers it .

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mattinnorfolk
9/8/2019 11:18 EST

Damn your deep Reb, let me take a guess a retired government employee or university Professor. Go fly your Stars and Bars flag !!!!

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rebtop
9/8/2019 11:47 EST

Mat.. I prefer to reference Stars & Bars with probability theory.

You do have a vey keen perception though. I have been around awhile. I have seen a lot and done a lot. Excesses on both sides of the political spectrum are to be feared. When one person gathers enough power to rule, the country will be changed forever. Probably not for the better. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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surfingcebu
9/8/2019 11:49 EST

Retop - the USA has not had an effective "USA centred " president for some time. Open boarder ? - WOW!!! what a risky concept . Nuts ! . With another "Dem" president like the last one who spied on the next presidents office and such - violating the basic rules of free democracy , the world would have been sunk with no means to defend itself . If Ukraine is not cooperating with the free world - get them to get funds from France or Belgium maybe ? They always seem to want to help ....until it comes to writing a check from their funds ... :) . Pro China Hollywood, and the media criticizing every word of your current President will back-fire ... but Its how the left rolls my friend !
At least thats how I see it .

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rebtop
9/8/2019 12:02 EST

Surf you are so full of yourself it is astounding. Free world. Do you have any idea how many worlds there are out there? Is your view of the world the only legitimate view? This planet consists of many countries. Just who do you think you are, to suppose that everyone should have one view, yours?
Who wants open borders? Not me. Do you really, really think Obama used the FBI to spy on The Don? Are you serious? If you are please go back to listening to Faux news and leave the adults alone.

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rebtop
9/8/2019 12:06 EST

Surf. I do not want to intrude on your posting about DU30, but i will make a comment, which i have made before. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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Morgacj2004
9/8/2019 13:39 EST

Hey Rebtop. In ref to your statement to Surf are you able to make a comment on this forum without insulting others. Surf has been on this site for many years and has made good suggestions in the past. Lighten up!!!

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LovePhilly
9/8/2019 15:52 EST

I agree Morgac. It's one thing to be lonely but to also be bitter...that's sad. Some people are so hostile here. Anonymity is a license to behave badly.

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mattinnorfolk
9/8/2019 15:58 EST

Yep, I guess just Troll's to ignore, but hard to sometimes. I wonder it they are living at home in Mom's basement sometimes back in Europe or North America.

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darkfader24
9/8/2019 17:21 EST

Catabisis - I didn't write that statement. I copied it and put quotation marks around it to make a comment on it. I have precious little knowledge about Trudeau.

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mootpoint20
9/8/2019 21:22 EST

I agree with 'lovephilly' who agrees with Morjac about something. But as to investigating the Ukraine, Biden's son sold military arms to China and the Russian side of the UKRAINE civil war, becoming a multi-millionaire helping China and Russia . He's an arms-dealer who also likes cocaine and will never see the inside of a jail but his father smiles a lot and the Establishment thinks he's a'safe' bet as a President even though he's senile and an old prostitute.

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rebtop
9/8/2019 22:24 EST

Moot.. If you start bringing in their kids, trump and family will be in jail. The emoluments clause was written for the likes of him.

I cannot disagree about Biden. He is not my pick. I think trump has dementia also. He has the vocabulary of a 6th grader in the seedy part of a city.

I do not know how i will vote this coming election. They are all pretty. Bad.

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catabisis
9/9/2019 00:49 EST

President Trump was hired by people who felt they had been left behind by the Federal government, saw their efforts of a lifetime evaporate, saw their cities and towns full of abandoned, rusting factories that had either failed or moved offshore. They could see that president after president, congress after congress did not improve their lot, so they hired a human wrecking ball to tear down and make new.
What wrecking ball has charm and wit? The people in front of that wrecking ball hate him and will do anything to destroy him before he destroys them and the entrenched, comfy life they live. Even Thomas Jefferson said that the country needed a revolution from time to time, to bring new blood and fresh ideas to the nation. Well, here it is.
-Author Unknown

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catabisis
9/9/2019 00:49 EST

President Trump was hired by people who felt they had been left behind by the Federal government, saw their efforts of a lifetime evaporate, saw their cities and towns full of abandoned, rusting factories that had either failed or moved offshore. They could see that president after president, congress after congress did not improve their lot, so they hired a human wrecking ball to tear down and make new.
What wrecking ball has charm and wit? The people in front of that wrecking ball hate him and will do anything to destroy him before he destroys them and the entrenched, comfy life they live. Even Thomas Jefferson said that the country needed a revolution from time to time, to bring new blood and fresh ideas to the nation. Well, here it is.
-Author Unknown

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Goslig
9/9/2019 03:43 EST

Is Canada a threat to the US? The Trudeau government is currently in negotiations with Turkey to bring captured ISIS fighters back to Canada for 'reintegration' into Canada society, with complete pardons. To top it off with podcasts, poetry lessons and body rubs. It has just been revealed that the Liberal government intends to brings 500.000 Palestinians into Canada, many of whom have practiced terrorism against Israel and as well as child rape . Trudeau personally has rewarded four terrorists to the tune of 10.5 millions dollars apiece. It goes on. Gee, hard to understand why the U.S. Government might regard Jihadi Justin and the Canadian government as a security risk.
Don’t forget the "Millennium Bomber" Ahmed Ressam was arrested in Port Angeles, Washington State after driving off a Ferry from Victoria, BC, Canada. He is an Algerian al-Qaeda member who lived for a time in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. He received extensive terrorist training in Afghanistan. On December 14, 1999,
Ressam took the M/V Coho car ferry from Victoria to Port Angeles, Washington. He successfully passed through U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service checks in Victoria, and boarded the last ferry of the day for the 90-minute crossing to the U.S. After the ferry docked in Port Angeles at 6 pm, Ressam intended to be the last car off.
U.S. Customs inspector Diana Dean decided to have a secondary Customs search conducted of Ressam's car, saying later that Ressam was acting "hinky" and asked him to get out of the car. Another Customs inspector searched the car and found in the spare tire well: ten green plastic garbage bags with 118 pounds (54 kg) of a fine white powder (which tests later identified as urea, used to manufacture explosives and fertiliser, two lozenge bottles filled with primary explosives hexamethylene triperoxide diamine (HMTD) and cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine (RDX), two plastic bags with 14 pounds (6.4 kg) of a crystalline powder (later shown to be aluminium sulfate, used primarily as a desiccant, to keep things dry) two 22-ounce olive jars with 2.6 pounds (1.2 kg) of golden-brown liquid (later identified as secondary explosive ethylene glycol dinitrate (EGDN), an extremely explosive and volatile nitroglycerin equivalent that is twice as powerful as TNT), and
four operational timing devices designed to detonate primary explosives, consisting of small black boxes containing circuit boards connected to Casio watches and 9-volt battery connectors. As one of the Customs inspectors escorted Ressam from the car, he broke free and fled. Inspectors chased him for five to six blocks and caught him as he tried to force his way into a car stopped at a traffic light. They took him into custody He is currently serving a 27 year jail sentence. Question is does Trump now build a wall between the US & Canada?

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catabisis
9/9/2019 05:46 EST

Goslig, find where Davao is is the 9th, or 5th safest in the world from these sites. The first one does not even register Davao in the first 50. The second site rates it a 54 out of 60. The 3rd site doesn’t even register Davao out of 145 worldwide cities. Probably because of all the murders.
https://www.thedailymeal.com/travel/50-safest-cities-world-gallery/slide-50
https://ceoworld.biz/2019/08/01/the-worlds-safest-cities-ranking-2019/

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catabisis
9/9/2019 05:51 EST

Goslig, Numbeo.com is crowd sourced. Anyone can publish on it. That 5th-raked Safest City you quoted was published by rabid Duterte supporters. Here’s what Wikipedia said, “ Columnist Alistair Walsh suggested in an article written for the website Property Observer, that Numbeo's information is based on what people say and should be taken with grain of salt. There is no third party check or audit on the accuracy of data. Comparison against other international city data sources suggests Numbeo is often very inaccurate.”

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Goslig
9/9/2019 05:57 EST

catabisis That “unknown” metaphor is a fake drama to lead the masses into their suspension of disbelief and hero worship of Trump reincarnated as Jesus. It’s a Cock & Bull story for a Marvel comic book movie.

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catabisis
9/9/2019 06:11 EST

Goslig, Here’s an article from Facebook.


Andy Yapo
Did Duterte really make Davao safe from criminals? Is the city even ‘safest’ in the Philippines?
NOVEMBER 30, 2015 · PUBLIC
It is now an accepted “fact” that Davao City is “one of the safest cities in the world” and the safest in the Philippines. This claim has been appropriated by the camp of Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte to depict him as the best mayor the Philippines has ever had because he managed to keep his city safe. For this reason, Duterte has decided to run for president, promising to do to the whole country what he did in Davao City, mainly the elimination -- without due process and through his Davao Death Squad -- of criminals or suspected criminals, including children who run afoul of the law. He is “The Punisher,” our “Duterte Harry,” our savior. His popularity suggests that he could very well become our next leader. Many applaud this possibility; some, like myself, shudder at the thought.
A Facebook post by Sean de Dios sought to demolish the whole basis for the Duterte mania, the claim that his city is the safest in the country. A key point de Dios made is that this is based entirely on the popularity survey done on Numbeo.com, a user-contributed survey site, not on any scientific study or even official police statistics.
De Dios’s post prompted me to dig up an old Excel file that I stumbled upon on the website of the Philippine National Police a while back. I held off on saying anything public about the crime statistics contained in that file, mainly because that’s the only crime statistic file for the PNP Region 11 office, which covers Davao City, Davao del Norte, Davao del Sur, Davao Oriental, Compostela Valley. The crime statistics in the file are only for the year 2012; I thought a good analysis of the issue requires comparison with other years, preferably more recent. But I couldn’t find any other official crime statistics online for Region 11. (For an organization that brags of transparency on its own website, this is rather disappointing of the PNP.) Moreover, I figured it should not be that complicated to debunk a claim such as “the safest city” – all one had to do really is find another place that is safer, with solid statistics – not just statistics from users of a popularity survey site like Numbeo -- to back it up.
So here it is, my take on this “safest city” claim, based on the PNP’s official crime statistics for 2012. But some notes and caveats:
Rodrigo Duterte was not mayor of Davao City in 2012; his daughter Sara was. But he was the vice mayor and was running the city as he always had. (The only reason Sara became mayor was because Duterte had reached the limit for reelection. When Sara stepped down in 2013, her father promptly took her place.)
The 2012 crime statistics came from the PNP’s website. While I have had problems with other PNP statistics and that there have been allegations that the PNP tended to manipulate the numbers, I don’t see why they would do such a thing here. For the purpose of this post, let’s presume regularity. (Last I checked this morning, the file is still on the website. Download it while it’s still there. If it somehow disappeared, DM me so I can send you the file.)
While the statistics cover only 2012, it is not unreasonable to assume that the preceding and succeeding years don’t defer that much in terms of data.
A crime rate is the number (or volume) of crimes in a given population and is computed as the number of crimes per 100,000. So: Number of crimes / population X 100,000 = crime rate per 100,000. (Source: BAIR Analytics)
Index crimes are classified into two: crimes against person (murder, homicide, physical injury, rape ) and crimes against property (robbery, theft, carnapping, cattle rustling. Non-index crimes are all crimes not considered index crimes.
This is a personal post. This does not represent my employer’s position on Duterte and all responsibility for this is mine alone.
You might ask if I’m a paid hack out to demolish Duterte. You certainly have the right to think that, but it’s your burden to prove it. I don’t have to prove anything. If you are not open-minded enough to take contrary views and facts, then that’s your problem, not mine. All I’m saying is, Duterte is not the person he projects himself to be and Davao is not the city that we thought it is. But, you might also ask, is Duterte a bad administrator? Not really. Given what he has done for the city -- making it clean and orderly, for example -- he has shown the capacity for good leadership. Is Davao City a bad city? No. It is certainly one of the best places in the Philippines. I’ve been there and I would love to go back. But we should ask ourselves if encouraging or allowing the murder of people without due process (many of them could be innocent) is not too high a price to pay for having a good mayor and a clean city.
The claim that Davao City is the safest in the country – the one claim that might make Duterte president -- is, in a word, a sham.
For comparison, we will limit the tables and statistics below to three areas that officially make up Region 11 – Davao City (population: 1,689,95); Davao del Sur (population: 941,180); and Davao del Norte (population: 831,377). Again, keep in mind that our main purpose here is to debunk the claim that Davao City is the safest city in the Philippines, so technically even just one area that shows the contrary should prove the point.

A screengrab of the Excel file on the PNP's 2012 crime stats for 2012 in Region 11, which includes Davao City.

CRIME AGAINST PERSONS: As the above chart shows, Davao del Norte has lesser crimes against persons (37) than Davao City (40).

CRIME AGAINST PROPERTY: Davao City, with 175, is the runaway winner compared to Davao del Sur (78) and Davao del Norte (56).

INDEX CRIME: Davao City’s rate (214) is nearly twice as high as Davao del Sur (124), with Davao del Norte way lower (93).

NON-INDEX CRIME: Here, Davao City is way, way up (226) compared to Davao del Norte’s 51 and Davao del Sur’s 60.

AVERAGE MONTHLY CRIME RATE: Davao City’s 38 is more than twice as high as Davao del Sur (15) and thrice as high as Davao del Norte (12).


TOTAL CRIME RATE: Davao City’s crime rate of 441 is 2.3 times as high as Davao del Sur (184) and more than thrice as high was Davao del Norte (144).
There you have it. There’s just no truth to the claim that Davao City is the safest city in the Philippines and the 9th safest city in the world. In fact, any of the cities in Davao del Sur (Digos City) and Davao del Norte (Panabo City and Tagum City) can rightfully claim this dubious title, not Davao City. (Then again, these cities have their own share of criminality and I’m certain that there are cities in other regions that have better crime rates.)
So the next time somebody says we should vote Duterte for president because he made Davao City the safest city in the Philippines ever, ask him what the f*ck he’s talking about.

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catabisis
9/9/2019 06:11 EST

Goslig, Here’s an article from Facebook.


Andy Yapo
Did Duterte really make Davao safe from criminals? Is the city even ‘safest’ in the Philippines?
NOVEMBER 30, 2015 · PUBLIC
It is now an accepted “fact” that Davao City is “one of the safest cities in the world” and the safest in the Philippines. This claim has been appropriated by the camp of Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte to depict him as the best mayor the Philippines has ever had because he managed to keep his city safe. For this reason, Duterte has decided to run for president, promising to do to the whole country what he did in Davao City, mainly the elimination -- without due process and through his Davao Death Squad -- of criminals or suspected criminals, including children who run afoul of the law. He is “The Punisher,” our “Duterte Harry,” our savior. His popularity suggests that he could very well become our next leader. Many applaud this possibility; some, like myself, shudder at the thought.
A Facebook post by Sean de Dios sought to demolish the whole basis for the Duterte mania, the claim that his city is the safest in the country. A key point de Dios made is that this is based entirely on the popularity survey done on Numbeo.com, a user-contributed survey site, not on any scientific study or even official police statistics.
De Dios’s post prompted me to dig up an old Excel file that I stumbled upon on the website of the Philippine National Police a while back. I held off on saying anything public about the crime statistics contained in that file, mainly because that’s the only crime statistic file for the PNP Region 11 office, which covers Davao City, Davao del Norte, Davao del Sur, Davao Oriental, Compostela Valley. The crime statistics in the file are only for the year 2012; I thought a good analysis of the issue requires comparison with other years, preferably more recent. But I couldn’t find any other official crime statistics online for Region 11. (For an organization that brags of transparency on its own website, this is rather disappointing of the PNP.) Moreover, I figured it should not be that complicated to debunk a claim such as “the safest city” – all one had to do really is find another place that is safer, with solid statistics – not just statistics from users of a popularity survey site like Numbeo -- to back it up.
So here it is, my take on this “safest city” claim, based on the PNP’s official crime statistics for 2012. But some notes and caveats:
Rodrigo Duterte was not mayor of Davao City in 2012; his daughter Sara was. But he was the vice mayor and was running the city as he always had. (The only reason Sara became mayor was because Duterte had reached the limit for reelection. When Sara stepped down in 2013, her father promptly took her place.)
The 2012 crime statistics came from the PNP’s website. While I have had problems with other PNP statistics and that there have been allegations that the PNP tended to manipulate the numbers, I don’t see why they would do such a thing here. For the purpose of this post, let’s presume regularity. (Last I checked this morning, the file is still on the website. Download it while it’s still there. If it somehow disappeared, DM me so I can send you the file.)
While the statistics cover only 2012, it is not unreasonable to assume that the preceding and succeeding years don’t defer that much in terms of data.
A crime rate is the number (or volume) of crimes in a given population and is computed as the number of crimes per 100,000. So: Number of crimes / population X 100,000 = crime rate per 100,000. (Source: BAIR Analytics)
Index crimes are classified into two: crimes against person (murder, homicide, physical injury, rape ) and crimes against property (robbery, theft, carnapping, cattle rustling. Non-index crimes are all crimes not considered index crimes.
This is a personal post. This does not represent my employer’s position on Duterte and all responsibility for this is mine alone.
You might ask if I’m a paid hack out to demolish Duterte. You certainly have the right to think that, but it’s your burden to prove it. I don’t have to prove anything. If you are not open-minded enough to take contrary views and facts, then that’s your problem, not mine. All I’m saying is, Duterte is not the person he projects himself to be and Davao is not the city that we thought it is. But, you might also ask, is Duterte a bad administrator? Not really. Given what he has done for the city -- making it clean and orderly, for example -- he has shown the capacity for good leadership. Is Davao City a bad city? No. It is certainly one of the best places in the Philippines. I’ve been there and I would love to go back. But we should ask ourselves if encouraging or allowing the murder of people without due process (many of them could be innocent) is not too high a price to pay for having a good mayor and a clean city.
The claim that Davao City is the safest in the country – the one claim that might make Duterte president -- is, in a word, a sham.
For comparison, we will limit the tables and statistics below to three areas that officially make up Region 11 – Davao City (population: 1,689,95); Davao del Sur (population: 941,180); and Davao del Norte (population: 831,377). Again, keep in mind that our main purpose here is to debunk the claim that Davao City is the safest city in the Philippines, so technically even just one area that shows the contrary should prove the point.

A screengrab of the Excel file on the PNP's 2012 crime stats for 2012 in Region 11, which includes Davao City.

CRIME AGAINST PERSONS: As the above chart shows, Davao del Norte has lesser crimes against persons (37) than Davao City (40).

CRIME AGAINST PROPERTY: Davao City, with 175, is the runaway winner compared to Davao del Sur (78) and Davao del Norte (56).

INDEX CRIME: Davao City’s rate (214) is nearly twice as high as Davao del Sur (124), with Davao del Norte way lower (93).

NON-INDEX CRIME: Here, Davao City is way, way up (226) compared to Davao del Norte’s 51 and Davao del Sur’s 60.

AVERAGE MONTHLY CRIME RATE: Davao City’s 38 is more than twice as high as Davao del Sur (15) and thrice as high as Davao del Norte (12).


TOTAL CRIME RATE: Davao City’s crime rate of 441 is 2.3 times as high as Davao del Sur (184) and more than thrice as high was Davao del Norte (144).
There you have it. There’s just no truth to the claim that Davao City is the safest city in the Philippines and the 9th safest city in the world. In fact, any of the cities in Davao del Sur (Digos City) and Davao del Norte (Panabo City and Tagum City) can rightfully claim this dubious title, not Davao City. (Then again, these cities have their own share of criminality and I’m certain that there are cities in other regions that have better crime rates.)
So the next time somebody says we should vote Duterte for president because he made Davao City the safest city in the Philippines ever, ask him what the f*ck he’s talking about.

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catabisis
9/9/2019 06:16 EST

Goslig, Duterte admitted to his Davao EJK.
https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2019/5/11/Duterte-EJK-Davao-City.html

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catabisis
9/9/2019 06:16 EST

Goslig, Duterte admitted to his Davao EJK.
https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2019/5/11/Duterte-EJK-Davao-City.html

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catabisis
9/9/2019 06:53 EST

The unknown metaphor you refer to is a mistake by me for not including the name of the writer of the paragraph at the time I copy and pasted into my phone about a year ago.

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catabisis
9/9/2019 06:53 EST

The unknown metaphor you refer to is a mistake by me for not including the name of the writer of the paragraph at the time I copy and pasted into my phone about a year ago.

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Goslig
9/9/2019 07:32 EST

catabisis. Let’s start with this:
DAVAO City now ranks second as the top safest city in Southeast Asia, according to an online user-contributed survey site Numbeo.com

Then there’s this Aug. 2019: Davao City trailed behind Chiang Mai in Thailand as the safest city in Southeast Asia with a Safety Index of 77.88, and a Crime Index of 22.12.

You can type in Google Search “is Davao City Safe?” and get

My WiFi sucks in the hotel here. Hold you breath until I get back to Davao. Or,

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Goslig
9/9/2019 09:10 EST

catabisis I remember this Davao City bashing going on week after week in 2018. Were you part of the pack back then attacking Seernai? The Welshman who finally gave up and quit the Forum because his facts mattered not? I think he said he had lived here 6 years. I’ve lived here for 8 years. I got a pretty good idea. So where are you living in the Philippines? You say you have been here a while? How long is that? Are you here now? Where? I promise to walk you through the facts once I am back at my desktop. Not that it would ever change your bias, since I think your true purpose is to badger me because you are a Trump fan. You are afflicted the same way as some others here. Just keep on badgering. I can’t wait to see how you handle Trump loosing next round. Just calling a spade a spade, eh!

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Goslig
9/9/2019 09:23 EST

catabisis Just wait a while. Be patient. I will get back to you when I get back to my desktop to feed you more information for you to find ways of debunking because these replies you send are just a game. First tell me where you are living in the Philippines and how long have you lived here?. You are not credible to me, and you are serving a false purpose with this discussion which is rightly about an attempt to find something to put me on the defensive about. So I will feed you that, but only if you can tell me how long you have lived here and where? Or are you one of those forum members preoccupied with supporting Trump and living in the US?

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Goslig
9/9/2019 09:31 EST

catabisis WOW you are really flaming me with so many posts. Keep it up! Work harder. If you read my posts you would have seen my comment about the DDS. Do you know what that stands for? Davao Death Squad, black ops Davao Police that took out rapists of tourists, drug dealers, scum. DU-30 would drive taxi making sure the streets were safe. You’re living in the US right? What is Trump’s approval rating? 47% the lowest of any President ever who has been in office for 3 years. DU-30 has 79%. Suck it up!

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mootpoint20
9/9/2019 11:03 EST

Is it true Catabis and Goslig are engaged?

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Morgacj2004
9/9/2019 12:25 EST

Guys it's all very subjective regarding the safest city data so why argue? I took classes in statistics and the professor always told us statistics are only as good as the data entered. Useless data, useless statistics. Safety can be based on many criteria and I can show you countless competing polls, studies of what us considered the safest.

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LovePhilly
9/9/2019 15:14 EST

Right Morgac! And even more important, the source of that data. I have a hunch the Filipinos may not gather data very thoroughly! lol

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LovePhilly
9/9/2019 15:19 EST

Funny Moot! lol

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LovePhilly
9/9/2019 15:24 EST

Back to the original question. It is my belief that China will end aggression when choked financially just like the U.S.S.R. did. In the event of a nuclear war, I don't think China would waste a warhead on the Philippines. Not to offend anyone but they just aren't important enough.

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darkfader24
9/9/2019 18:19 EST

Goslig - Jeez - Regarding "Ressam" - what an interesting post!! I vaguely remember the incident but did not know all these details. Cats like him that are obviously guilty should be dealt with D30 Style. Take them to the alley and shoot them. They do not need a trial. WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE GUILTY - AND WE KNOW WHAT THEY INTEND. There is only one reason to keep them alive - and that's to "Milk" information from them. Since their intention is to kill - they have signed their own Death Warrant. They show no mercy - and therefore deserve none. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

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LarryKar
9/9/2019 19:06 EST

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! This safest city debate has raged on this forum for ages. One very good member who is no longer around argued on and on about how safe and wonderful Davou is/was. My advice just let it go. Like anyplace it's only safe till you act stupid. My and a musician friend used to go visit the Blue Note in East St. Louis back in the 60's. You learn to smile and not act a fool in " enemy territory". It was good training for RP.

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Robertdav298
9/9/2019 21:00 EST

Moot...ever hear of BUD ABBOTT and LOU COSTELLO.......?

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darkfader24
9/9/2019 23:15 EST

LovePhilly - Exactly. It's not an insult to the RP. The RP just is not a threat. It's not a Nuclear Power, nor does it have a terrifying military force. The Chinese would run over this place like Army Ants. They have much Bigger Fish to fry. It is not within our DNA to to self-destruct, to commit suicide. Our DNA has always screamed "Survival!" Suicide comes from the hopeless, the broken. The Chinese people and Government want to survive - so they would rather negotiate than instigate serious hostilities. Only if she is backed into a corner - will she lash out. Anyone dealing with China or any nation must use great wisdom.

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LovePhilly
9/9/2019 23:22 EST

Well written Dark.

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LovePhilly
9/9/2019 23:33 EST

Dark,

Speaking of nuclear powers, there are currently nine nations known to have nuclear weapons. Proliferation is becoming serious as Iran pushes forward and now Saudi Arabia announces its plan. Other nations will follow. This is as serious or more serious than Muslim infiltration. If one tiny rogue nation gets this capability they will use it then everyone is in. Iran launches against Israel, Israel launches against Iran, Russia Launches against Israel, etc. You see where this goes. RP seems like a very safe place to me.

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mootpoint20
9/10/2019 01:05 EST

Robert...……..
As a child I watched on TV, Lou Costello enter a farmer’s home and his burly wife attempted to get him to leave, but Lou shouted “…if I can’t vacuum up this bag of dirt I’ll eat it.”, and then he threw it on the carpet. The towering woman handed Costello a spoon, and replied “…Get started, shorty, we don’t have electricity.”
...………….

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darkfader24
9/10/2019 01:09 EST

LarryKar - Yes "The Blue Note". Musta been an awesome experience! Like you said, scary territory, but if you are quiet and mind your own business, act politely like a Gentleman, it's highly unlikely that people will mess with you. Then you get to enjoy something out of the normal path of life. Good analogy to the RP. If you're gonna put your hand in a Cobra Basket better do it very carefully.

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LarryKar
9/10/2019 06:55 EST

Dark: This was in the late 60's during the days when the State Police at least it was rumored would not go too deep into East St. Louis. Luckily the Blue Note was located at the edge of town. My friend was a Hammond B3 player even had not one but two Lesley Tone Cabinets. And friends with most of the House Musicians. When we walked in the place would go silent till the House Band keyboard player would say, " it's all cool folks these are friends of mine and maybe later Don will come up and play for us." Looking back we were insane but hey I had an experience to remember and music like I've rarely heard since.

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Robertdav298
9/10/2019 07:09 EST

LOL......those were the days......then you surely remember the infamous who is on first?

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darkfader24
9/10/2019 08:13 EST

LovePhilly - Regarding a possible Nuke War started by a rogue like Iran - Yes, you have a very interesting take on it. The Philippines might tend to be safe since it doesn't threaten anyone, but things will be so shook up that it will be hell. Possible Fallout. The World Economy will instantly collapse so there will be widespread panic , looting of grocery stores, and an immediate drop in food supplies all over the World. Roving gangs. It will not be terribly different than Zombie Apocalypse Movies - except no Zombies. People will be in Survival Mode - and that is a very, very dangerous mindset. I have faith that God Almighty is in control of this Beautiful Ball of Crazy Humans that we call Earth. It is the most unique and gorgeous planet - teeming with life, sprawling beaches, waterfalls, Mountains with Pine Forests, and most of all, Human and Animal Life. The World would be a very cold and lonely place, even with all of it's beauty, if people weren't here to enjoy and share it. Love is the the most important element. But love doesn't come from Mighty Oaks or lovely streams. I wouldn't want to be Robinson Crusoe, even on the most amazing Island. It would be devastating. No, Earth was created for Mankind, and God isn't going to allow our arrogance and pride and anger wipe out His creation. That's EXACTLY why no Despot has ever taken over the World. It has never happened and it never will happen. God won't allow any Maos or Stalins or Hitlers or anyone to get complete control. It is an exercise in futility - unfortunately, destroying many innocent lives in the process.

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mootpoint20
9/10/2019 11:21 EST

Well, that's exactly true! Just like, "I Don'tknowwho's" on Second.

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darkfader24
9/10/2019 13:43 EST

LarryKar - That's awesome. I've got an old B-3 right hear with a Leslie that works perfectly and sounds gorgeous. That is so cool about your friend. Yeah, you guys were crazy doing that, but when you're young and "Invincible", you take crazy chances - and get to have some great experiences that you would have never had. My brother is a Psychologist and worked at a Hospital in St. Louis for several years. He mostly dealt with druggies, a huge problem there. He said it was a rough town, but the BBQ - was Wow!!

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catabisis
9/11/2019 02:46 EST

I lived in Davao for three years at a friend’s house. I am in Visayas now. I also lived in another part of Mindanao for a year. It is a great contradiction of you to be supporting Duterte and slamming Trump. Just because I post something positive about Trump does not make me a supporter. He is almost as big of a baffoon as Duterte. If he keeps up with his antics he may even catch up with Duterte. Seernai couldn’t stick around because he consistently failed to defend his nonsense about Duterte and the city he created into gold upon a solid jade mountain.

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catabisis
9/11/2019 02:51 EST

Goslig. I have been living in three different places-two in Mindanao-for six years. But what does that matter to you? I could say 10, 20, 30 years. To you, it is meaningless because you are blind to the leader

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phonedoctor1
9/11/2019 03:34 EST

I was in CDO from 2010 till 2014. I had no problem acquiring my blood pressure pills(metoprolol), or the Tamsolosin for prostate. I was even able to get Zantac for heartburn, and the prices were very cheap! I will be moving back as soon I get this house sold

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phonedoctor1
9/11/2019 04:22 EST

we are in risk too at our northern border, since Canada has offered many hundreds or many thousands of Syrian terrorists to come to Canada, once they get there all they need to do is just walk across as that border as it is totally open!

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catabisis
9/11/2019 04:44 EST

Goslig, you are much like Duterte himself; over-sensitive and incapable to take critiques. I was flaming you. lol. Yeah, ok. Lighten up, Seernai jr. What you described as being flamed, I consider a normal rebuttal.
You are quite shallow to think when the masses give high approval ratings to the Golden Calf of Davao, then it must be all good, true, and realistic.
Hitler had high ratings too. Nixon had good ratings at one time as well. Hitler stated “How fortunate for governments that the people don't think.” In other words, the masses are asses. Goslig, you are a prime example of Hitler’s comment. You have been totally propagandize by this administration. You epitomize the all that encompasses the meaning of being a Dutertard. Watch this video. This is what you have allowed yourself to become by the sheer manipulation of authority. You are Goslig, The Happiness Machine in all its glory
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04.
Tom Morris, a former professor of philosophy at Yale University had this to say about people like you who are swirling in the cesspool of the Happiness Machine. “Socrates taught Plato, Plato taught Aristotle, Aristotle taught Alexander The Great way back when he was just Alexander the Average. But Alexander became great through his association with a great man. This is how it works; we become like the people we are around. Not because of what they say. But because of what we see them do.” And this, Goslig, is how you became a Dutertard. Watch the video and come back here bragging about the masses giving your Savior those high numbers.

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Goslig
9/11/2019 04:47 EST

phonedoctor1 Absolutely right. I am happy to hear that you understand this treat looming in Canada. The last TERRORIST ATTACK on America was launched from Victoria, British Columbia CANADA, and was only averted by a chance intuition by a border guard because she sensed something “hunky” about the driver of the car loaded with bombing devises destined to blow up LAX. Hopefully, Canadians vote for a Conservative PM in the upcoming election so this mess of ISIS, rejects, that Trudeau has welcomed, with financial incentives, can be monitored. Some are UK citizens that the UK won’t take back because they are known terrorists. Justin Trudeau is crazy. His biological father was Fidel Castro for Gods Sake!

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Goslig
9/11/2019 04:57 EST

THREAT looming in Canada, not “Treat”. iPhone spelling mistake. SORRY

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Goslig
9/11/2019 05:01 EST

“HINKY” not hunky, about the terrorist. iPhone speller mix-up #2.

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catabisis
9/11/2019 05:26 EST

Where’s your proof? Goslig says Morgacj2004 The RP media is owned and operated by the pro-Chinese anti-Duterte Plutarch’s.

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catabisis
9/11/2019 05:28 EST

Yeah, I made Goslig my little bitch.

Is it true Catabis and Goslig are engaged?

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Goslig
9/11/2019 05:33 EST

Alibaba.com founder, billionaire Jack Ma was forced into retirement two days ago. Don’t buy anything from Alibaba.com because they just ditched Thursday eir long standing policy of “Trade Assurance” guarantee. Now if your order is shipped without part of “what’s included”, there is nothing you can do. They changed their website. Trade Assurance is missing. My last purchase was missing an item. Nothing I can do. The company doesn’t respond to my chat notifications. Caveat Emptor, CHINA.

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catabisis
9/11/2019 05:43 EST

It is a pretty damn great assumption to believe no city from this country is going to make any safety list
Morgacj2004
Guys it's all very subjective regarding the safest city data so why argue? I took classes in statistics and the professor always told us statistics are only as good as the data entered. Useless data, useless statistics. Safety can be based on many criteria and I can show you countless competing polls, studies of what us considered the safest.

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catabisis
9/11/2019 05:45 EST

Not only is it not important enough. It is China’s country. More now after Duterte.

Posted by: LovePhilly
Back to the original question. It is my belief that China will end aggression when choked financially just like the U.S.S.R. did. In the event of a nuclear war, I don't think China would waste a warhead on the Philippines. Not to offend anyone but they just aren't important enough.

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rebtop
9/11/2019 07:16 EST

Gos. Same thing happened to me vis a vis poor quality shipment from Alibaba. It would have cost me a whole lot more in shipping cost to get restitution.

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Goslig
9/11/2019 07:17 EST

catabisis Interesting, but I have also commented positively about Trump’s tariff’s on China although the collateral damage to farmers and importers, like Amazon m, who suck up those tariff costs in the end. I don’t think Duterte is like Trump in key Pinoy compassion policies. . Would Trump approve free post secondary education? Would Trump approve across the board raises in pay for teachers, police and army.? Would Trump increase pension benefits to seniors? But Duterte is going down on one knee to Xi because he wants to create ‘oil sector jobs. If you follow Steve Bannon on YouTube, you would know that the Spratley’s are strategic choke points for China’s maritime access. But it’s too late to ramp up Obama’s Asia Pivot because he pissed in his boot by insulting DU-30. The Liberal opposition is the center of corruption in the RP. Think Cory Aquino. DU-30 has an approval rating of 79% from Filipino’s. Don’t you wonder about that? It does seem you experienced RP life to some degree. I am coming from an agree to disagree place with you since I agree with 79% of what Filipino’s think about DU-30.

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Goslig
9/11/2019 07:42 EST

rebtop seems like all of Western Europe agrees with what we both experienced, after checking in with Google. They’re skimming their shipments outside of China. Greed so Chinese!

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surfingcebu
9/11/2019 10:40 EST

Gos- I like what DU30 is doing , however extremely worried why those oil jobs will cost the RP in the end , re - closer ties and occupation -illegally- of RP territory from China . Playing with the devil will get you buried !

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surfingcebu
9/11/2019 10:54 EST

Catabis - very observant ! China infiltrated the press here in the RP about 12-15 years ago . The press , on the whole , is NEVER too critical of their bosses who pay them ...the Chinese .

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surfingcebu
9/11/2019 10:58 EST

Gos - Yes The owner /Pres. of Alibaba was taken out by the CPC. VERY state run outfit . DONT buy anything from them . You will get ripped-off eventually . Matter of time .

Good advise as usual Gos !

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surfingcebu
9/11/2019 11:47 EST

phone doc- Syrians , Iranianas , and a huge number of other Arab and area immigrants to China under Fidel's son "trudy" ....coming to Canada .USA is at risk. October election coming . We need him OUT ! DU30 would be happy as well I'm sure too !!!! :)

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mootpoint20
9/11/2019 13:09 EST

"Trudeau's biological father was Fidel Castro..." ???

Listen, I can't take this anymore. I'm getting nervous reading this weird crap. I want out. Do you hear me? Out! (I refuse to listen to liberals for the rest of my life!)

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Earnestndeavor
9/11/2019 14:01 EST

I would like to take a moment to remember all those who lost their lives and those who lost loved ones 18 years ago today. Certainly a sad day in the life of America.
Rest In Peace my countrymen

Respectfully Earnie

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darkfader24
9/11/2019 14:36 EST

Earnest - Right on! 9/11. Never Forget.

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mootpoint20
9/11/2019 16:07 EST

I listened to the President's speech and found it as usual outstanding. It is important for all of us to concentrate on the important elements of life, country, and values. How easy it was for a handful of evil people to do so much damage so quickly. I can find the reference in Revelation 18....It speaks of the 'center of world trade being destroyed in one hour; even though it was on an island...(Manhattan Island.) Extraordinary reference to a process of change occurring.

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darkfader24
9/11/2019 16:52 EST

Moot - That reference in Revelation is a description eerily accurate to 9/11. I've seen it before. Whether it was referring to this occurrence or an even more devastating future situation with far greater impact - remains to be seen, but it sure is jaw-dropping.

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Tsmslf
9/11/2019 17:13 EST

Rebtop:

So far, emoluments lawsuits against Trump have all failed. I wonder why?

Having people stay at your hotel, for which you receive services for your money, is not like having them give millions to your foundation as did Mrs. Clinton.

This reminds me of the Congresscritters who allege Trump obstruction of justice from pages of the Mueller Report whereas Mueller declined to indict and the DoJ declined as well.

As Dersh says, you can't indict for the exercise of a Constitutional authority.

Your allegations are all hat and no cattle; it's wishful thinking and going nowhere.

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surfingcebu
9/11/2019 18:23 EST

Tsm - Good points. I don’t think the current president is even taking a salary, or most expenses. Compared to Obama and the Clintons and Bush, that would save the budget millions.

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surfingcebu
9/11/2019 18:30 EST

Moot- it is true, our Prime Minister refuses to take a DNA test. His mother, dated Fidel Castro for many many many weeks. Around 8 to 9 months before Trudy was born. The timeline, the looks, the heritage, his mother’s whereabouts, all lineup to Fidel Castro. It is a well-known whisper among the halls of our Parliament buildings. Of course, there is no law to mandate him to take a DNA test.

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catabisis
9/11/2019 18:53 EST

Earnestndeavor, thanks for this. I have been out of town and the date slipped my mind. What is also sad is the acceleration of the loss of our rights as Americans. This is from The Daily Bell......The Bill of Rights Turns 230, and What Do We Have to Show for It? Nothing Good
By John W. Whitehead - September 11, 2019....

It’s been 230 years since James Madison drafted the Bill of Rights—the first ten amendments to the Constitution—as a means of protecting the people against government tyranny, and what do we have to show for it?

Nothing good.

In America today, the government does whatever it wants, freedom be damned.

We can pretend that the Constitution, which was written to hold the government accountable, is still our governing document, but the reality of life in the American police state tells a different story.

“We the people” have been terrorized, traumatized, and tricked into a semi-permanent state of compliance by a government that cares nothing for our lives or our liberties.

The bogeyman’s names and faces have changed over time (terrorism, the war on drugs, illegal immigration, etc.), but the end result remains the same: in the so-called named of national security, the Constitution has been steadily chipped away at, undermined, eroded, whittled down, and generally discarded to such an extent that what we are left with today is but a shadow of the robust document adopted more than two centuries ago.

Most of the damage has been inflicted upon the Bill of Rights.

A recitation of the Bill of Rights—set against a backdrop of government surveillance, militarized police, SWAT team raids, asset forfeiture, eminent domain, overcriminalization, armed surveillance drones, whole body scanners, stop and frisk searches (all sanctioned by Congress, the White House, the courts and the like)—would sound more like a eulogy to freedoms lost than an affirmation of rights we truly possess.

Here is what it means to live under the Constitution today.

The First Amendment is supposed to protect the freedom to speak your mind, assemble and protest nonviolently without being bridled by the government. It also protects the freedom of the media, as well as the right to worship and pray without interference. In other words, Americans should not be silenced by the government. To the founders, all of America was a free speech zone. Despite the clear protections found in the First Amendment, the freedoms described therein are under constant assault.

The Second Amendment was intended to guarantee “the right of the people to keep and bear arms.” Essentially, this amendment was intended to give the citizenry the means to resist tyrannical government. Yet while gun ownership has been recognized by the U.S. Supreme Court as an individual citizen right, Americans remain powerless to defend themselves against SWAT team raids and government agents armed to the teeth with military weapons better suited for the battlefield.

The Third Amendment reinforces the principle that civilian-elected officials are superior to the military by prohibiting the military from entering any citizen’s home without “the consent of the owner.” With the police increasingly training like the military, acting like the military, and posing as military forces—complete with heavily armed SWAT teams, military weapons, assault vehicles, etc.—it is clear that we now have what the founders feared most—a standing army on American soil.

The Fourth Amendment prohibits government agents from conducting surveillance on you or touching you or invading you, unless they have some evidence that you’re up to something criminal. In other words, the Fourth Amendment ensures privacy and bodily integrity. Unfortunately, the Fourth Amendment has suffered the greatest damage in recent years and has been all but eviscerated by an unwarranted expansion of police powers that include strip searches and even anal and vaginal searches of citizens, surveillance (corporate and otherwise) and intrusions justified in the name of fighting terrorism, as well as the outsourcing of otherwise illegal activities to private contractors.

The Fifth Amendment and the Sixth Amendment work in tandem. These amendments supposedly ensure that you are innocent until proven guilty, and government authorities cannot deprive you of your life, your liberty or your property without the right to an attorney and a fair trial before a civilian judge. However, in the new suspect society in which we live, where surveillance is the norm, these fundamental principles have been upended. Certainly, if the government can arbitrarily freeze, seize or lay claim to your property (money, land or possessions) under government asset forfeiture schemes, you have no true rights.

The Seventh Amendment guarantees citizens the right to a jury trial. Yet when the populace has no idea of what’s in the Constitution—civic education has virtually disappeared from most school curriculums—that inevitably translates to an ignorant jury incapable of distinguishing justice and the law from their own preconceived notions and fears.

The Eighth Amendment is similar to the Sixth in that it is supposed to protect the rights of the accused and forbid the use of cruel and unusual punishment. However, the Supreme Court’s determination that what constitutes “cruel and unusual” should be dependent on the “evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society” leaves us with little protection in the face of a society lacking in morals altogether.

The Ninth Amendment provides that other rights not enumerated in the Constitution are nonetheless retained by the people. Popular sovereignty—the belief that the power to govern flows upward from the people rather than downward from the rulers—is clearly evident in this amendment. However, it has since been turned on its head by a centralized federal government that sees itself as supreme and which continues to pass more and more laws that restrict our freedoms under the pretext that it has an “important government interest” in doing so.

As for the Tenth Amendment’s reminder that the people and the states retain every authority that is not otherwise mentioned in the Constitution, that assurance of a system of government in which power is divided among local, state and national entities has long since been rendered moot by the centralized Washington, DC, power elite—the president, Congress and the courts.

If there is any sense to be made from this recitation of freedoms lost, it is simply this: our individual freedoms have been eviscerated so that the government’s powers could be expanded.

Yet those who gave us the Constitution and the Bill of Rights believed that the government exists at the behest of its citizens. It is there to protect, defend and enhance our freedoms, not violate them.

It was no idle happenstance that the Constitution opens with these three powerful words: “We the people.”

We the citizenry are the arbiters and ultimate guardians of America’s welfare, defense, liberty, laws and prosperity.

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catabisis
9/11/2019 19:34 EST

Don’t get yourself up about the U.S. in the Bible. It was written for Jews in the Middle East to give them hope. Any reference to Revelation to the modern world is based upon history repeating itself. A savvy writer could come up with it with knowledge of the past in his era....Posted by: darkfader24
Moot - That reference in Revelation is a description eerily accurate to 9/11. I've seen it before. Whether it was referring to this occurrence or an even more devastating future situation with far greater impact - remains to be seen, but it sure is jaw-dropping.

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LovePhilly
9/11/2019 20:37 EST

Surf,

There are other sources who suggest his mom liked to screw around and probably did get busy with ole' Fidel but that they didn't meet until after your president was born.

I don't know if we will ever know.

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Goslig
9/11/2019 21:05 EST

mootpoint20 Justin Jihad you ask? Castro’s love child;
https://nyulocal.com/new-world-university-justin-trudeau-is-fidel-castros-son-bccf01403a86

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Goslig
9/11/2019 21:15 EST

Surf I know you have seen this before, but my fellow Americans are caught unawares by Central American’s. They think Canada is safe? The Dem.’s & GOP are closer together than the Liberal and Conservative bunch in the (no longer)!True North Strong & Free -
https://youtu.be/xXqHUqokD0Q

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Goslig
9/11/2019 21:18 EST

Earnest - I am with you. Brings tears to my eyes when I remember.

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Goslig
9/11/2019 21:30 EST

surfingcebu take the wool off your eyes bud. https://trumpgolfcount.com/
Almost $109,000,000 from the taxpayers pocket too pay for his golf at his golf clubs. Go figure that money laundering has many forms.
Trump Golf Count Cost Breakdown:
AF1 flights to Mar-a-Lago: $47,288,000
AF1 flights to Bedminster: $18,375,500
Costs to Bedminster, Palm Beach*: $16,826,890
Cost to guard coast off Mar-a-Lago: $21,476,000
Luxury car rental in Turnberry, Scotland: $1,260,139
Cost of stay at Trump Turnberry, Scotland: $68,800
Total cost of staying in Doonbeg, Ireland: $3,600,000
Total Cost: $108,895,329

“It could cost taxpayers over $340 million”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2019/07/10/trumps-golf-trips-could-cost-taxpayers-over-340-million/amp/

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phonedoctor1
9/11/2019 21:41 EST

sure, send the bell to me .. markdagg@live.com

THANKS

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Goslig
9/11/2019 21:50 EST

surfingcebu The large majority of Pinoy (79%) are opposed to the Liberal ‘China lovers’. DU-30 is a pragmatist and goes along to come along.

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darkfader24
9/11/2019 23:46 EST

Surf - Remember that sweet little statement from Mr. Obama: "White Folk's greed runs a World in need!"? Remember that? Talk about a broad brush painting White Folks - there's an awful lot of them - as greedy. That sounds RACIST to me. If you're White - well, your greed runs a World in need, Kracka! But what REALLY SUCKS is the fact that Mr. Obama, who comes across like such a caring individual for the poor downtrodden - and a nice guy - just purchased a 14.8 MILLION DOLLAR Mansion in MARTHA'S VINEYARD - Yeah, getting all COZY WIT DEM WHITE FOLKS.
Ya gotta check out this photo!

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/money/barack-and-michelle-obama-buy-new-marthas-vineyard-mansion

I remember when Mr. Obama called out Rich People, decrying their wealthy Life Styles - How many steaks can you eat, huh? And then he gets all cushy with his wife and two kids - one of them is going out with one of the richest little twirps from England, no less. I don't mind them enjoying their life. I just wanta puke after hearing him shame others for what he does. All self-righteous and sh*t. And I have another question. Where did ALL that cash come from, hmmmm? Yeah, just another Washington DC Insider with Velcro on his palms, sliding them BENJAMINS into his pocket. Yeah, Barack, Half-White Folk - YOU - your Greed runs a World in Need!!!

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surfingcebu
9/11/2019 23:54 EST

Dark- you make a good point. Dems political leaders , they like the luxuries in life , 100% . Sacrificing is for their followers.

BTW , Barack Huisin Obama is big- racial. I think he forgets that.

Like pocihantas she forgets she is not Indian ... and is a fake beer drinker!!! HA!!!!

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surfingcebu
9/11/2019 23:57 EST

Dark I meant to say Obama is Bi - racial. Not big racist. Auto correct Apple devise :)

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darkfader24
9/12/2019 00:04 EST

In regards to Mr. Obama - I need to correct some things that I wrote. It is not a photo - but a short video on the home. The video is fairly old and I think the sale went thru. The money came from book sales and an advance on Mr. Obama's upcoming memoirs of his Presidency. Good for him and Michelle. But, Barry - just think of all the good you could have done helping the poor downtrodden - who you always champion. You ask us to do it, don't you? You condemn all Dem Greedy White Folk about their money. Why don't you put 20% where your mouth is. It won't hurt you financially. Hell, even 50% would still leave you with Tens of Millions. I mean, do you REALLY need 8.5 Bathrooms and a $14.8 Million Home overlooking the ocean on a huge amount of expensive, exclusive acreage? Do you really NEED IT? Remember, Barry - Your Greed runs a World in Need.

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darkfader24
9/12/2019 00:17 EST

Surf - Barack is indeed Bi-Racial. No problem. He's 100% Human - which is good enough for me. But how come HE makes such a big deal about other peoples' Race? Believe me - he is so focused on others and their Ethnicities. He's obsessed - and it's made him a lot of money. He grew up in White Privilege - and was well taken care of. He went to exclusive schools in Hawaii. He's got Nuthin' to bit*ch about. He never lived in a ghetto - nothing remotely close to one. But he makes himself look good by making others look bad. And believe me - the man is a Racist. It's a strong part of human psychology - attack and accuse others of what you are guilty.

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darkfader24
9/12/2019 00:18 EST

Catabisis - Regarding Revelation - I could not disagree with you more. You have your opinion. I have mine.

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darkfader24
9/12/2019 00:28 EST

Catabisis - continuing on about that particular reference in Revelation. Yes, the USA may not be mentioned in the Bible and that reference may not be about our 9/11 - in fact I doubt that it is - but it is still interesting. I think that that reference is about something far more cataclysmic - something that is REALLY going to shake things up in the World Economy - basically bring the World Economy to it's knees. And the event may not be literal - but an analogy. That particular reference is still quite evocative.

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Goslig
9/12/2019 00:28 EST

darkfader24 Orphrey’s mansion complex still Trumps Obama’s. The most recognised Black billionaire in the world. Michelle the most admired. Jack Ma retired at 55 with 38.6 billion. He’s ramping up 5G, and he only started Alibaba at a lakeside apartment in Hangzhou 20 years ago. Richest man in China or Asia. The richest man in the world is US multi billionaire Jeff Bezos. Net Worth: $153.72 Billion. Finally Amazon (Oct. 2, 2018) raised the minimum wage for all of its US workers to $15 an hour, a move that will affect 250,000 full-time employees and 100,000 seasonal workers. White mans greed?

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surfingcebu
9/12/2019 00:34 EST

Dark ; Yes, Barack Obama grew up in a privileged environment, compared to some of us. He doesn’t have an inch of white guilt either :-). Neither do I actually. He certainly plays up his blackness and never mentions his white background. Mind you, it is out of fashion to be white these days anyway. At least in North America. You get zero victim cards for being white.

Now, if I was a male feminist, a illegitimate son of a communist movement leader,, bisexual , a trust fund kid, never had a job, I would probably have a few victim cards to play. :-)

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phonedoctor1
9/12/2019 02:08 EST

Obamas jaunts to Hawaii all the time and letting his wife go alone with a group of friends to France and Europe, and their many trips to Africa, PLUS he golfed MORE than trump does at puer expense, Trump has only cost a drop in the bucket comparatively!

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darkfader24
9/12/2019 02:11 EST

Surf - Well, that's EXACTLY how a Kracka could get some Luv these days - becoming part of the Victim Class. So even if you came from Kracka Privilege, you could insert yourself into the Victim Camp by declaring yourself as any one of the LGBTQW ("W" for Weird - My Invention) people and become a Hero. I need to sell LGBTQW Credits (similar to Carbon Credits). That way people can be absolved of Kracka Guilt or any kind of guilt - hey, I'm not particular - and I can eventually buy a house next to Barack and Michelle My Belle, and me and Barry can shoot some hoops, and swing the clubs together and have some chuckles, talking' bout all Dem Loser Honkys who bought into all the BS! Sounds like a great Retirement Plan.

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Robertdav298
9/12/2019 02:14 EST

In the not to distant future the white male will be a minority. He already is insome places and is surely discrimanted against when applying for Government jobs.
In fact in centuries to come the white race will be eclipsed by the Muslim and yellow skin race..

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darkfader24
9/12/2019 02:22 EST

Gosling - Yes - More power to The O _ Oprah. At least she created her wealth - with smarts and talent. Nothing was given to her, as far as my knowledge goes. She was a victim of Rape and Abuse, came out of poverty and by her own abilities and acumen made herself what she is. Kudos! I don't have a problem, personally, with people having money. There is no jealousy on my part. My Rant was in regards to critical comments (jealousy) designed to demean others while at the same time going straight into that direction - unapologetically. It's the same as the old adage "People who live in Glass houses......" . Barry can do whatever his little heart desires with his "Honestly Earned Money". What seriously pisses me off is how he gets a pass from the Press. Why hasn't anyone cross-examined him on this? I am not one for Nit-Picking on people, Barack or anyone. But if one draws "First Blood" or throws the first punch then they shouldn't be surprised when someone slugs them back - because they deserve it.

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gypsyquokka
9/12/2019 02:37 EST

Trudeau's biological father was Fidel Castro... = Why do people keep posting such garbage / gossip???? Justin and his brothers do / did not look anything like Castro. The "only" person who knows the truth is Margaret and she will never speak out. Gossip.

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LarryKar
9/12/2019 03:14 EST

Everyone just hold their thoughts. I'm going to go make some popcorn and don't want to miss the part about Fidel Castro is Obama's biological father.

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darkfader24
9/12/2019 03:38 EST

Larry - Extra Butter on mine please! Fidel is definitely NOT O's Pop. His Dad was a different Commie - out of Kenya.......

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LarryKar
9/12/2019 03:55 EST

Dark: I know, it's called " sarcasm" keeps one realively sane in fantasy land of ideas this page becomes from time to time.
Nueva Ecija is the home of a big percentage of the Beauty Queens I see on TV it seems. And in the Philippines that is some accomplishment. Not being personal I don't know your lady, and you seem wise, but as so often happens in my old age a line from Bob Dylan came to mind...
" They got some hungry women there and they really make a mess out of you." Smile friend.

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catabisis
9/12/2019 04:32 EST

I have two question. How do I get these emails from going to my Junk file? I mark them as Not Junk on my IPhone and nothing changes. Also, on mobile, how do I start a new topic? Here is an article about China and U.S. it leans left is my guess. But we Americans are so propagandized it is difficult to believe anything in mainstream media. This article comes from Information Clearinghouse. ................


U.S. Loses Asia-Pacific as Full Spectrum Dominance Continues to Fail
By Matthew Ehret...............

September 09, 2019 "Information Clearing House" - Always working a little harder than most to stay a step below reality, US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper made especially candid remarks this week that America’s INF pullout was timed for a targeting of forces against China.

Speaking to Fox on August 21st, Esper said: “We want to make sure that we, as we need to, have the capability to deter Chinese bad behavior… China is the number one priority for this department. It’s outlined in the national defense strategy, why we think it’s a long term strategic competitor and one that is pursuing a maximization campaign, if you will, throughout the indo-Pacific theater, whether its politically, economically or militarily…”

Echoing a little Dr. Strangelove, Esper stated that there is “a coming shift” from “low intensity conflict that lasts 18 years to high intensity conflicts against competitors such as Russia and China.”

While American military exercises in the Pacific have played out on China’s doorstep at an accelerating rate since the Pivot to Asia was announced in 2011 with the most recent US-Australia Talisman Sabre bi-annual exercise and US-South Korea Ulchi Freedom war games this month, China has not remained idle.

In response to America’s vast array of military infrastructure built up on China’s border, China has responded by the unveiling of cutting edge anti-ballistic missile technologies, including hypersonic weaponry to counteract the American threat. A large part of China’s defensive response includes the Russian S400 anti-missile system which is also being adopted by India, Turkey, Syria and the United Arab Emirates as a unified system which renders the American THAAD and ABM systems impotent and obsolete. Although unconfirmed, American generals have freaked out that China is building a joint China-Cambodia naval base in Preah Sihanouk Province that gives China easy access to coastal waters on the Gulf of Thailand and ready access to the South China Sea.
Hi
America’s military impotence when faced with the new cutting edge technologies unveiled by Russia and China was outlined in a recent report released by the US Studies Center at the University of Sydney which stated that “America no longer enjoys military primacy in the indo Pacific and its capacity to uphold a favorable balance of power is increasingly uncertain.” Referring to China’s advanced anti-aircraft weapons, the report says “Chinese counter-intervention systems have undermined America’s ability to project power in the Indo-Pacific region” which the authors say, could be rendered impotent within the first 8 hours of conflict.

Rather than use this information to propose a new security doctrine premised on cooperation and dialogue as China has offered on countless occasions, the report’s authors join the fantasy world of Esper calling instead for a “collective defense” strategy akin to a Pacific NATO, whereby all of America’s Pacific allies could join in an anti-Chinese military alliance together, and relieving America of the burden of carrying WWIII on its own.

We know that this Pacific NATO has been discussed for some time and was at the heart of recent Pacific Vanguard naval drills conducted between the USA, Australia, Japan and South Korea in May 2019 which saw the participation of 3000 soldiers, two Japanese destroyers, a South Korean destroyer and two Australian frigates in their first joint war game. This outlook was also behind the August naval drill played out by Malaysia, USA, New Zealand and Australia in Guam. The USA has 54 000 troops in Japan and 28 000 in South Korea.

When China and Russia conducted their first long range joint air patrol in the Asia Pacific in July 2019, South Korea and Japan scrambled jets to intercept the Chinese and Russian aircraft, with South Korea firing hundreds of warning shots. Backed up by the USA, both Asian countries screamed loudly (and without evidence) that their air space had been violated.

In response to the belligerent comments by Esper and the Australian report, the Chinese Foreign Ministry said “China is firmly on a path of peaceful development and our national defense policy is defensive in nature”. China has gone further by providing a cooperative framework under the Belt and Road Initiative which is built around the brilliant political agenda of providing diplomatic solutions to geopolitical points of tension through economic development strategies that enrich all participants. This approach has provided China great payback through the defusing of tensions with other nations claiming territory within the South China Sea- especially under the pro-BRI orientation of Malaysia’s Dr. Mahathir Mohammed and the Philippines’ President Duterte.

Not feeling at ease being caught in the crossfire of a nuclear exchange, Japan and South Korea have also gone so far as to create a new trilateral cooperation agreement with China on August 21 premised on “next generation exchange projects in three countries… We hope to discuss future-oriented partnerships and regional affairs, including North Korea.” The agreement also enables international join investment in all countries operating under the BRI framework. Together the three countries account for over a quarter of the world’s productivity and have everything to gain by working together.

Those American military officials promoting the obsolete doctrine of Full Spectrum dominance are dancing to the tune of a song that stopped playing some time ago. Both Russia and China have changed the rules of the game on a multitude of levels, and can respond with fatal force to any attack upon their soil with next generation weaponry beyond the scope of anything imagined by ivory tower game theorists in the west.

The ship of world history has changed course away from the rapids of war and economic collapse, as the Belt and Road Initiative has grown to proportions not imagined possible just a few years earlier and the coming months will be decisive as the west does some soul searching and decides which future it would like to have.

Matthew J.L. Ehret is a journalist, lecturer and founder of the Canadian Patriot Review. He is also the co-founder of the Rising Tide Foundation.

This article was originally published by "Strategic Culture Foundation " -

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catabisis
9/12/2019 05:11 EST

LarryKar, I guess you missed the memo. Someone corrected the Obama/Castro father connection. They said Martin Luther King was his father.

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Goslig
9/12/2019 06:02 EST

phonedoc not sure where you are getting your information, but Google disagrees with your assertion: Trump has played 2.6 times more golf than Obama in his first 2 years and 91 days and has cost the tax payer an estimated $74 million more than Obama. https://presidentialgolftracker.com/trump-vs-obama-golf-games/

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LarryKar
9/12/2019 06:40 EST

phonedoc: Please check your facts before spreading wrong info. While Trump does donate his pay to various causes he cannot by law not accept a paycheck. Basic employment law. However it has been calculated it would take over 200 years of Presidential Paychecks to cover his golf outings to date. Hardly a bargain for taxpayers.

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Goslig
9/12/2019 06:50 EST

Robertdav298 I don’t disagree with your statement about Caucasians becoming a minority which has been a fact since 1992. But Asians are not “yellow”. I dated a mainland Chinese lady who’s father was a Chinese general. She was whiter than me (with freckles). Japanese & Korean are white as sugar. Some Chinese are brown, Filipino’s & Singaporean’s are brown. Filipino’s have black eyes, but some are beautiful brown eyes too. The Filipino hybrid beauty of Spanish, American, Norwegian, German, Dutch, Japanese, Chinese and Aboriginal make beautiful blends of white to brown. The whiter the skin and nicer the nose is a status symbol. Isn’t brown best, matey? Eh!

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Goslig
9/12/2019 07:01 EST

darkfader24 Orphrey was from the South Side of Chicago and started out as a WGN (educational TV network) talk show host in the 60’s.

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Goslig
9/12/2019 07:14 EST

gypsyquokka Justin’s brother, who died in an avalanche In British Columbia, was the smart one; and his biological father was Pierre. You should’ve looked at my link to see Justin’s facial similarities with Castro. The Cubans have a huge festival to celebrate Terry Fox, the famous Canadian one legged cross Canada runner, with an annual marathon run. Pierre probably toked up with Fidel too. He said he toked, but just not in Canada.

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Goslig
9/12/2019 07:49 EST

catabisis Keep forwarding your ExpatExchange emails from Spam to your in-box and your email app should correct it. Your clip from the Canadian Patriot Review was spot-on. Didn’t know about it, so Thanks

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catabisis
9/12/2019 08:05 EST

Thanks for the tip about spam.....catabisis Keep forwarding your ExpatExchange emails from Spam to your in-box and your email app should correct it. Your clip from the Canadian Patriot Review was spot-on. Didn’t know about it, so Thanks

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gypsyquokka
9/12/2019 10:15 EST

Goslig - Can you not just let Pierre rest, and Margaret live in peace without digging up garbage about the family that has NO factual truth about Fidel???? who cares about your thoughts - ONLY Margaret is alive and would not divulge the truth, no matter what your thinking is. I was living in Toronto all the years that Pierre was PM and did a fantastic job - unlike his son. Hoping we will see the end of Justin next month. I was at City Hall when Terry Fox arrived on his way through Toronto - brave man. Canada and Cuba have had a long relationship with trade and direct airlinks began in mid 1970's , although flights between the two countries can not fly through USA airspace [ fly out over Newfoundland and down over the Atlantic - long flights] . Cuba is Canada's 3rd largest tourist destination, and Cubans know Terry Fox. Fun country to visit as not flooded with Americans, but lots of Mexicans and Spanish.

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mootpoint20
9/12/2019 11:14 EST

I doubt anyone will remember this, but whenever a crisis occurred, I noticed Barry immediately ran off to the Golf course. I'd believe he had a separate cell phone that couldn't be traced. (AS to the speculation of that unintelligible book, chap. 18, I saw destruction 'take place in one hour' mentioned 3 times, the exact time between the first and second building hit. 'Merchants surrounding the 'island' mourning over the destruction'. If true, time of a world nuclear destruction may be viewed as an extended period rather than what most believe. But it's personal speculation.

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Robertdav298
9/12/2019 19:11 EST

GOS......it is a well known fact that GOOGLE is biased towards the left, in fact it was published that during the 2016 election GOOGLE narraitive was for the DEMS.
I believe GOOGLE is under investigation or they will be.
So when you get information from GGOGLE you have to consider their political bias.

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Goslig
9/12/2019 19:29 EST

gypsyquokka I loved Pierre Trudeau too. Brought the Constitution home. There is a sculpture in Vancouver’s Stanley Park of Terry Fox. My comment was directed at Justin. I always loved Cuba and Cubans. Before their revolution, Cuba was run by the Mafia. I lived in Key West, Florida then and watched the revolution on TV since Cuba is only 90 miles away. Havana Bay, written by Martin Cruz Smith is a novel about post-soviet Cuba and an excellent mystery. Gives you the flavour of Cuban culture. My comment serves as an possible explanation of why Justin acts so extreme Liberal giving 60 million a year for Gay parades but leaves impoverished indigenous people and the homeless empty handed, lets in hordes of ISIS terrorists. Why? They already tried to assassinate Steven Harper.

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Goslig
9/12/2019 19:36 EST

Robertdav298 Google is run by algorithms. Algorithms are taking over everything in the security sector. Retina scanning, facial recognition, shopping, on & on. I don’t think they are affiliated with any party. Facebook is another matter.

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darkfader24
9/12/2019 22:21 EST

Gos - Regarding The Oprah - Yes, I knew that she was from the South Side of Chicago - or should we say "The Dark Side". No, you won't find Darth Vader there - only death. I admire the Big O - she's amazing. I don't agree with her politics, but I understand where she's coming from. Typical shootings per weekend are between 25 to 50, mostly Black on Black. Brings a tear to my eye. The Politicians completely ignore this -especially the African-American ones - because embarrassment trumps solving the problem - or at least attempting to solve it. They jump all over a Police Officer shooting a young man in Fergusson (the cop was exonerated with several Black witnesses plus video of the young man robbing a store) and that just caused weeks of fiery rioting. Merely taking advantage of a sad circumstance for political gain. Yet they don't say a word about dozens of people shooting each other each weekend in South Chicago! What gives?!? And here is one of THE MOST SHOCKING POINTS - Chicago IS A GUN FREE ZONE!! REALLY - TRULY!! So much for taking self protection out of the hands of good people, while being unable to circumvent the use of guns by criminals. A Perfect Example for the Anti-Gun People to address.

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darkfader24
9/12/2019 22:39 EST

Larry - "Nueva Ecija is the home of a big percentage of the Beauty Queens I see on TV it seems." Wow!! I did not know that. Well, it must have been particularly HARD on my future Bride - because she has always been unattractive. We are very honest with each other - she is not tough as nails - she is quite sensitive - but she is very strong! Oxymoron? No - she is strong and kind - not tough and mean. She grew up with a lot of cruel teasing and rejection from the other kids. Her mother was always cleaning houses, so she had to accompany her Mom and could not play with the others. She has incredible character. This is why I love her so. She can brighten up any room - by her sweet, kind, "Inclusive" nature - not her physical beauty. She stole me away from a true Beauty Queen who lives in General Santos. The Beauty was very sweet and nice - but quite shallow, selfish, immature. The Beauty was 27 but seemed 16. My Girl is 26 but seems almost 40 - in wisdom, with a very calm nature and incredible sense of humor. Yes, her character outshines by far any lack of a beautiful face. Besides wonderful character she does have another thing going for her - A ROCKIN' BOD!! She's tall, 5' 7" and trim with amazing long legs and a chest that enters the room about 30 seconds before the rest of her. We joke about this all the time. But that's not why I chose her. "Sure, Dark, sure!" No really. I only saw a head shot of her at a dating site and we typed messages back and forth a lot. Her quick wit and incredible sense of humor is what roped me in. I hope that I am not distracted by any Beauties in Nueva Ecija. I have noticed some of her friends are quite attractive.

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Robertdav298
9/12/2019 23:54 EST

GOS....then why would they be called before congress?
Who runs twitter?

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Goslig
9/13/2019 00:06 EST

darkfader24 I graduated from Hyde Park Academy High School (set in the Blackstone ghetto) in 1961 as the only White of about 4,000 students. Before that I was in a variety of Florida High Schools. I never had an altercation in Chicago with anyone, but in Bradenton Florida (segregation then) I fought 2-3 times a week. Taught myself how to fight watching cowboy movies on TV. There was complete hegemony in Florida based on how brutal you could be. Whereas in Hyde Park and Kenwood on Chicago’s South Side, I was welcomed. We lived on the next Street from Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay) a draft dodger. I just couldn’t walk into the Ghetto at night. The West side was far worse. Blacks would help you out if your car broke down though. You could hail a Jitney cab and go anywhere in the South Side Ghetto (a car full of Blacks, mostly babes) for 20 cents and wait your turn to be dropped off. There were no guns or shootings during that time. However, in Englewood, they averaged 1,300 arsons annually & no arrests. That turf was controlled by the Disciples whereas my turf was controlled by the Rangers who protected me. When the Chicago cops massacred the Black Panthers in the 70’s, immediately afterwards there where gatherings where Black activists incited everyone to arm themselves. Guns arrived. I owned a shotgun. However there were never any riots in the 60’s or 70’s because the Chicago cops let the Rangers and Disciples run things (drugs, prostitution and gambling). No cabbie would ever drive you past South State Street even if they were Black. You had to take public transportation. Fatal if you were racist. There were executions by curbing where 10 or more gang members stomped you to death. No one ever went into the Parks, especially South Park. The cops would use packs of police dogs to break up fights. Notably, the University of Chicago is located on 57th Street where they invented the A Bomb, the world’s first Nuclear Reactor (graphite plating) which is Obama’s neighbourhood and where the Colombian Exhibition of 1893 was held, an upper class neighbourhood then before the Whites fled. 5th Army HQ there as well. Chicago is best known for the Haymarket Square riot on May 4, 1886 which established the Communism’s anniversary day as May 1. Chicago is a great city. Chicagoans are very friendly, They invented Pizza at Uno’s pizza near Chicago’s Water Tower and the first Playboy Club around the corner from my Dads offices (936 N. Michigan Ave) they then relocated across Michigan Avenue in the Palmolive Building. The Drake Hotel there was the first luxury hotel in the world to have a bathroom in every room. Great music scene. I went to Miles Davis, Muddy Waters and Eartha Kitt performances regularly. Saw Bob Dylan live & drunk as a Skunk, Herbie Hancock went to Roosevelt University, AKA the Chicago Music College, where he performed in the student cafeteria regularly. My Alma Mater, Dick Gregory ran for mayor in 1967, but if you voted Daley you got $5 or a gallon jug of wine.

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LarryKar
9/13/2019 00:07 EST

Dark: Calm down. As I already said " it was not personal" never met nor have I ever seen your lady. Just rattling on as I tend to do. I will say however if she ever runs for office you definitely should be her Campaign Manager.

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Goslig
9/13/2019 00:19 EST

darkfader24 Obviously you’re a good man, but be prepared to be hit on regularly by seductive exotic beauties because of what their competitive Pinay element is like Thai women where their biggest ego trip is drawing a man away from his woman any way they can. They can be charmingly aggressive & reckless. Just let them know you’re 110% loyal to your woman. Looks like you got a gem. Congratulations!

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catabisis
9/13/2019 00:37 EST

This is interesting. Let’s hear the foreigner Duterte supporters defend this article. I suppose Duterte will rename it Trojan Telcom.
https://ph.news.yahoo.com/philippines-allow-china-backed-telco-112546280.html

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Goslig
9/13/2019 00:38 EST

Robertdav298 My guess is that there are political vulnerabilities that can be built into those algorithms through profiling with the use of vast databases. That’s how the Chinese do it. Facial recognition software is used by US police departments everywhere where a bodycam image gets the instant criminal record of anyone transmitted immediately to the cop. Picture ID is used everywhere. The UK is more advanced than the US and maps peoples faces at crowded choke points to search for radicals. Gun controls can be easily implemented though use of this technology as well as retinal scanning which most refugee camps (averaging about 80,000 people) now use for all purchasing instead of money. Congress needs to get on top of this to maintain democracy in elections as well as privacy regulations.

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darkfader24
9/13/2019 02:18 EST

Larry - Yu completely misunderstand me. I was never anything but calm during my discourse. You didn't offend me in the slightest. I apologize if I gave that impression. Rather, I was impressed by your statement that Nueva Ecija was a center for Beauty Queens. I dig women so much that I hope I can keep my composure. I'm sure my Lady would have been picked on in any environment, but maybe it was worse there because of an abundance of "Lookers" - who knows. She exudes plenty of confidence now, mainly cuz I think she realizes that "It's not all about her". Anyway, Cheers - No Offense taken.

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darkfader24
9/13/2019 02:35 EST

Dos - You have lived a very interesting Life. I'd like to hear more. And you spoke so many things about Chicago that I did not know. All I personally know about it is the inside of O'Hara Airport - which I have seen 20 plus times traveling from the West to the East. My Father was Native-American Injun - my Mom half-English and half-Polish. The Polish side came from Poland around 1905 approx. My Polish Great Grandfather became a Slum Lord there, is what I've heard. Very wealthy. Long family history there but outside of my Great Grandfather, and Grandmother, his daughter, I never met anyone. So, I have always had an interest in the place. I found it interesting that the Rangers protected you. Were they Black guys? If so, I find that astounding - even though I was somewhat protected on my block, which was all Black. We had each others back - in THAT block. Outside of that block - no one was safe - but me even less cuz I stood out like a sore Thumb. Gun usage came early in Philly. I was just going into Hi School when Uncle Sam taped my Step-Dad to go to Gallup, NM to work at the very large Injun Hospital there. I breathed a sigh of relief - cuz had we stayed I was going to go to an Inner City Philly Hi School where, the year before, gun violence had already broken out (1966). Thank God for small mercies!

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Goslig
9/13/2019 03:34 EST

darkfader24 I am half Polish/German & half Swedish (Viking blood). Being the only White in my Ghetto high school which was more like a big prison, I was adopted by my Black teachers and classmates. I had to tell them I came from (segregated) Florida. Their smiles disappeared briefly. Actually they were much further advanced academically, reading Chaucer (Old English) in grade 10. For the two years I attended there our basketball team played only twice since after 10 minutes of play a brawl began clearing the stands. We were suspended from competition. The big reason the Rangers took me under their wing ( they numbered about 15,000 all ages) was because being the only White & from a good family, the administration trusted me. So they asked me to work for their accountant doing the books and in the administration for maintaining records. I gave out passes to get someone in class who was tardy. The Rangers needed favours with certain records so some of their members could join the Army that never graduated. I fixed that because my survival was at stake. My guardian was like “Mr. T” who I saw at the McClary Sports Center in the loop, a futuristic affair. Never saw so many gold chains hanging off a thick neck before and about 15 beautiful (dental floss)-bikini clad babes in tow. The best gym in Chicago across from the Richmont Hotel. All the old speakeasy’s had been converted into bars within bars within bars where one bar has a featured rock star. Illinois recently legalised pot. I cannot imagine the effect on that, but maybe less shootings.They have the Chicago Housing Police where if you live in one of the projects (as most gang members do), the CHP raids them, and the crescendo of weapons hitting the pavement is deafening because you can’t have a gun in a project. The West side is worse than the South Side. They also have WHITE POWER neighbourhoods. There still is a colour line there South of Blackstone somewhere that block busting hasn’t changed, I.e renting to Blacks to scare off Whites and buy up devalued apartments.

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darkfader24
9/13/2019 03:37 EST

Gos - Sorry about "Dos" - This site also does "Auto-Correct" on spellings, although I don't know what "Dos" means, either. Anyway - since you spent years in Chicago - did you ever hear of the band "Mason Profitt" on Warner Brothers Records? Or "The Talbot Brothers"? From Chicago and big in the 60s and early 70s. If you have, I want you to know that they are friends of mine. The older brother, Terry, and I have been good friends since February 1978 - 42 years now, since the first time that I mixed his Concert Audio. He lives in my town here in Central California - but we first started working together in Tucson, AZ. He comes into my studio 2 to 4 times a week, and we have logged many thousands of hours in the studio - and I have mixed him many times in Concert. He used to work at one of the greatest recording studios ever - Universal Recording Studios at 46 E. Walton Street. Many famous records were cut there, Ella Fitzgerald, Frank Sinatra, Nat Cole, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Weather Report, Chicago Symphony, Stan Kenton, etc........ Here's an old Video Tour on youtube complete with Nerdy Recording Engineers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0pAZMZkHpA&fbclid=IwAR0AaaEVWhu4GJlIVVzElh0o2vSzRINlJDg1LQ_LHagS9zFIbmDS9MznQrk

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Goslig
9/13/2019 04:08 EST

darkfader24 Yes, I heard of the Talbot Brothers. Not sure if I ever saw them. I went out so much. Best show I ever went to was at Mothers (tore it down unfortunately) where the Velvet Underground played Nico, Lou Reed, John Cale, Moe Tucker, Sterling Morrison, Doug Yule, Angus MacLise, At break they invited anyone who wanted to come to the men’s can for a shot of free H! The Green Door used to be a good for folk music, located in a brick building built in 1872. Near Navy Pier, good pub food now. But no Pizza in the world can beat UNO,’s, set below street level with about 90 years is signatures covering all the walls and ceilings. They have big Black Mama’s that make the thick pan pizzas that melts in your mouth. Prepare for a line-up though. I miss the Windy City, but not the smell (of vomit) from the steel mills in Gary, Indiana to the South, and terrible hot & humid to bitter cold wind chill weather. O’Hare AP, yeah, crazy mob scene there.

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Goslig
9/13/2019 04:15 EST

darkfader24. DOS refers to Disc Operating System where you write strings of programming code. You can use DOS commands like attribe to create invisible exe.bat. commands to spy or hack. I’m just very novice self taught. Not a true IT nerd.

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darkfader24
9/13/2019 04:48 EST

Gosling - You have some seriously interesting stories. I have a few myself, but being younger, I have fewer. When I get to the RP, if possible, I would love to hook up with you. I'm sure that you could fill a couple of evenings up with amazing anecdotes - and I could learn a lot "At The Master's Knee" - LOL. It would be real fun, since I enjoy hearing people's War Stories!

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Goslig
9/13/2019 08:21 EST

darkfader24 I’m no master of anything. Just a rolling stone. Maybe I digress a little too much.

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Goslig
9/13/2019 10:09 EST

cata you are naive to assume that Duterte and China aren’t going to do business together. The RP has been open for business with China for generations. The Chinese elite control banks and many industries. The Cojuangcos, Lucio Tan, Chan Lib and See Ying, are four of the 10 most powerful and wealthy families in the RP and Chinese. Huawai is everywhere here. Globe and PLDT have serious band width and transmission problems. There are dead zones in many areas of Toril and Davao. Does the US do business with Canada & Mexico? A report by AmCham on 2018 China Business surveyed 434 American companies between April and May 2018, and found that the majority of U.S. businesses in China are operating profitably.(Oct 10, 2018). It’s all about for profit capitalism. Together with its Chinese partners, General Motors sold 3.6 million vehicles in China last year, more than in the United States. GM brands, such as Cadillac, and Boeing remain very popular in China. (Aug. 2019). Why would you assume the RP would boycott China. The Chinese are spying on everyone in one way or another. No Western State is immune.

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mootpoint20
9/13/2019 15:03 EST

My country wants me to give up my weapons so they can protect me. Unfortunately, my government can't even protect me from telemarketers. (Liberals are freakin' stupid)

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darkfader24
9/13/2019 16:07 EST

Goslig - Rolling Stones are like the old Craggy Sea Captain sitting at a beat up Oak Table in the dark corner of a Pub on the cold coast of Scotland. The firelight flickers on his weathered face and his raspy voice whispers out stories reminiscent of Sinbad or Indiana Jones. I'm there. It couldn't be better! Hahaha!

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Robertdav298
9/13/2019 20:23 EST

MOOT.....so come to the RP.....foriegners cannot even own guns.......hmmmm

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Goslig
9/13/2019 22:10 EST

mootpoint20 Like many, you bought into the fake narrative. You country want to control guns to stop mass murders. They want to take guns away from crazies. Easily done in all countries where this weakness doesn’t exist. Lots of guns in Canada, especially Alberta and the North. Polar Bears are killers not humans. Facial recognition software can instantly determine a criminal. So if you’re a criminal you wouldn’t get a gun except on the black market. Where does Mexico get its Guns? USA. Where is Smith & Wesson made? China.

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mootpoint20
9/13/2019 22:25 EST

Thanks Robert.

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Goslig
9/13/2019 22:26 EST

Fader you’re from the “me” generation, I’m Ed Sullivan Show vintage. The Stones were regular Brit’s once. I’m the same age as Mick. I call myself a rolling stone (gathers no moss) because I’ve been all over the world and lived in three countries, moved 28 times. Not referring to rock music. Mocking older people is bad karma. The sands of time will fall on you too. You will reminisce about your past. Then its your turn to experience ridicule from young guns “shlep”..

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Robertdav298
9/13/2019 22:30 EST

GOS.....agree that the US must take weapons from the crazies and we need stronger background checks and the requirements needed to purchase a weapon.
However consider this, if a person wants to commit a crime or mass shooting THEY WILL FIND WEAPONS on the black market regardless of all of our precautions.
Remember this GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE KILL.
Something else to consider weapons are smuggled in all the time across our southern border by the cartel network.

One cannot use other countries as an expample against the US because unfortunatley we have such a diverse population. We have people that enter our society for one reason to kill and commit crime.

Unfortunatley this is such a sensitive topic that it must be addressed at our highest level of government.

One last thing, I know people in the US that always tell me that the RP is a very dangerous country and that their government is so unstable.
I always reply that the RP is safer than the US because of the mere security you find everywhere. Malls, banks, schools and now even churches, there is always a security guard.

Question is, if they can do that here in the RP, then why can we not do that in the US?

The short answer is, if we tried that in the US, people would say it violates our cvil rights to have armed guards even at drug stores.....etc!
My answer is, have you ever tried to enter a government building in the US, the security is omnipresent.
So is our government buildings more important than our schools and colleges......I wonder?

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Goslig
9/13/2019 23:05 EST

Robertdav298 I agree 110% on your comment about gun control. The genie is out of the bottle in the US. The NRA has doomed Americans. You’re right about the RP. It’s the only way to go. When did this all begin since it’s recent? Columbine?

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darkfader24
9/14/2019 00:10 EST

Goslig - I hope that you don't think I was mocking you. My message to you was 110% sincere. My Mother taught me at her knee to be very sentimental. I drive my daughter crazy with my stories. She says to me: "Dad, I really enjoy you enjoying telling your stories - FOR THE 50th TIME!!"

I meant everything I said to you in all honest sincerity.My imagination may have gotten away with me about The Craggy Old Sea Captain, but that's the kind of stuff I love to read (Robert Louis Stevenson) and watch - Indiana Jones, Mysteries, etc.

I would love to get together with you and hear your stories. I'm the guy that seeks out people that I don't know - at Parties and I don't talk about me much, usually just answering questions that people might ask. I am the one asking them about them! I know my story and don't need to spew it again. I love hearing about them, even the most humble person. I learn a lot - and pick up more Wisdom along the way.

You will find me a very kind, interested and empathetic person. And BTW - I loved watching Ed Sullivan, and still catch parts of his shows on Youtube. It's awesome. Loved The Jackie Gleason Show, too!

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darkfader24
9/14/2019 00:18 EST

Robert - Security in the USA - could not agree with you more. I ran sound at a 3,500 person church. Big Orchestra, Rock Band, lots of Horns and Singers, etc. Had a huge 80 Channel Console, and speaker system. There were a minimum of 5 men at all times, sometimes more, with Carry/Conceal permits, guns hidden under long T-Shirts, Locked and Loaded.

One of the guys came up to me once and said "Guess who we are trained to protect the most here - number one Priority? Pastor and you - equal priority - cuz we need the P.A. System up to make emergency instructions from hidden places with wireless mics." They started implementing this way back around 2007. They were waaay ahead of the game. This was here in Fresno CA.

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Robertdav298
9/14/2019 00:46 EST

GOS......so here is the million dollar questions......do you think we are the only TWO people ever to think about this and have a sound solution?
Of course not BUT and this really bothers me why in GODS name don't the people in charge AT ALL LEVELS do something about this......surely someone has the answer?

As you said, Columbine could have been the start of school shootings but what about OK CITY?

Think about all the administrations that we have had all talking about gun control and squabbles with the NRA and the first and second amendments.

Sometimes I wonder if this is all planned and a revolution of sorts is coming? Did Nakita Kruchev have a crystal ball in 1962 when he said " mother Russia does not have to worry about America because they will destroy each other from within".

My gosh......I am dating myself!

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Goslig
9/14/2019 00:59 EST

darkfader24 Every message has a content message and a tone (or command) message. If they don’t line up, you get the person in a bind. Think the psychological impact of what you’re going to say before you say it. That will save your marriage at the least. Actually I kinda believe you, though apologising for a dig after you make one indicates a contradictory role (still both are valid though). If you have truly moved from the cognitive stage of sophisticated (but contradictory) role development (Trump hasn’t), then you have self consistency, the prerequisite for mutual respect. Just one abstract step-up left.! I like you, but I’m calling you on any poor choice of phrasing of your personal remarks about me. Now if just the others guilty of this on the forum could just get it too.

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Goslig
9/14/2019 01:39 EST

Robertdav298 I agree. There are a huge number of domestic terrorists groups and others like Incels https://youtu.be/a-S744n7vrg . These on- line sub subversive murdering suicide mission types have become popular anti-hero myths that attract immoral looser garbage. Aggression is adaptive. Counter aggression, “i.e. getting someone back for their rejection or narcissistic insult, for what they did to you” is always extremely aggressive and much more violent. Ironically, heterosexual domestic violence is way less vicious than lesbian violence. Sometimes I think the RP is
less Fu#k’ed up than the West.

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darkfader24
9/14/2019 03:04 EST

Gosling - Huge apology - I honest to God did not mean any dig. Truly Really. I meant all respect - was the "dig" talking about the Old Sea Captain? Again, apologies. You know my heart - I meant it as an analogy - a cool story - a magical moment - where you hear great stories from someone who has experienced life. Your story about Florida and Chicago got me so interested in hearing more from you. If I meant it as cut down, why would I say that I wanted to get together with you so much? Think about it. So that you could punch me in the face when we first meet? Anyhow, the Beer is on me! I reach out a Happy Hand in Friendship. Besides, I highly depend on you for answers. I've always been respectful of you. Ya gotta believe me on this.

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darkfader24
9/14/2019 03:10 EST

Goslig - Re: "Ironically, heterosexual domestic violence is way less vicious than lesbian violence." Truth - I heard a quote from a Retired Coroner for New York City. He had worked the substantial mortuary for 40 years or so. He said that he could almost always pinpoint a homosexual lovers' quarrel murder - especially the males - who were so much stronger, and more emotional than the lesbians - even though the women were also quite emotional. Rejection / or cheating in the Male Camp elicited stabbings in the hundreds on the other person's body. And more than just stabbings. Flat out ripping/tearing with the knife. He said that was no brutality like it in the other murders. Scary.

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gypsyquokka
9/14/2019 03:52 EST

Faker - so what is your message? You commented about what a coroner said about gay and lesbian violence. Some gays are violent, just like many straights. IF YOU are not gay, why does it bother you and comment? Smile

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phonedoctor1
9/14/2019 04:23 EST

i contracted to all the telecom companies across the USA for 40+ Yrs, so I have MANY stories, I have worked in EVERY state except Hawaii and Alaska and many hundreds of small cities and towns!, over a 40 yr career with 5 separate journeyman licenses in Telecom! It was fun always being in a new area and meeting new people!

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phonedoctor1
9/14/2019 04:49 EST

Goslig, I lived in East Chicago and Hammond from 4-9my cousins lived in Old Town Chicago and ran a popular restaurant but my uncle was involved with the mafia, actually, he was the boss of that entire area did not visit them am mom did not like all the guns on them and laying around! BUT i loved visiting them and especially the restaurant, Casa Del Sol ! he had a rolls Royce and his kids all
had BMW's

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darkfader24
9/14/2019 05:13 EST

Gypsy - The coroner said the violence was FAR GREATER than any other violent crimes that he dealt with. Surely your head isn't too thick to comprehend that. It was his observation. BTW - I am not anti- Gay - Just anti the radical Gay Agenda! RADICAL. My biological Father was Gay - May he rest in peace. I have a number of very good friends, and clients who are Gay. My sweet dear niece is Gay. My post was about an observation. Not a Judgement. And I got nuthin' against Gypsies either, Gypsy. Smile......

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darkfader24
9/14/2019 05:25 EST

PhoneDoc - Re: Your Uncle - Wow!! I wonder if he was involved in that whole thing about putting dead people's names on the Voter Rolls for JFK? It was started by Frank Sinatra getting some Chicago Mafia Boss involved - but it wasn't Frank's idea regarding dead peoples' names. That was creative, alright. Apparently whatever GodFather there was out East that helped get Frank's career going - that guy was super ticked off at Frank for getting the Mafia involved with that particular situation. I can't recall exactly what he was upset about, but he broke ties with The Chairman of Da Board.

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Goslig
9/14/2019 05:36 EST

darkfader24 maybe I had your humour wrong. Sorry, my apology. I have never hit anyone in my life outside of a boxing match I was forced to engage in at age 9 at summer camp. I just wanted my opponent to lay down. I defeated him badly, I was ashamed of myself. I worked 17 years on the max ward of a psychiatric facility. I was only afraid once. I had to do over 200 take downs a year to control violent patients long enough for the nurses to IM inject them with 500 mg of chlorpromazine which then took 50 minutes to take effect. I do have a little Judo and had to use the bare naked choke twice when I had no back up and faced a life or death outcome. No worries about me, and hopefully we can meet up and have some beers together. As RobertDav knows, I also worked 17 years with 116 of the 169 indigenous people’s bands in British Columbia mostly in the back country and on remote coastal areas. But the Federal Government began swindling them for 10 years and (because I don’t do swindling) they got two of my flaming arrows in their back before I quit. Sweet payback. I am one of the very few Whites recognised by the indigenous people of BC who hate White people and government with a passion. Lots of adventure which is the way I like to live. Things are kind of boring now except for the Forum.

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Goslig
9/14/2019 05:43 EST

phonedoctor1 Let’s hear some of your good stores. I met a Filipino on a flight to Cold Lake Alberta where he worked as a lineman in the winter in his cold weather gear and bear spray. The power company sponsored his Permanent Resident Visa. Poor bugger. No Canadian would take that job.

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darkfader24
9/14/2019 05:55 EST

Goslig - Re: Your post about the Psych Ward, etc.... See, Gos? This is EXACTLY what I am talking about. You guys, RobertDav, Surf, I am sure Gypsy, TMSLF, PhoneDoc, etc..... have got Golden Stories. I know that Robert and Surf have been/are Military - and could fill volumes with what they've seen. Amazing stuff! I wish we could all get together around a camp fire on a beach, roast hot dogs on a stick, drink some cold ones, and just share Golden Experiences. We would laugh our butts off, and probably hear some chilling stuff, too. This would be a Dream for me - fire light flickering off our faces, and waves breaking in the background for great ambiance. The experience would be awesome for me!

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Goslig
9/14/2019 06:54 EST

phonedoctor1 Old Town is the coolest place to live in Chicago. Indiana I drove through on my way to my summer jobs in Michigan. Halsted Street is where the safe Blues Bars we’re located. Sad to leave it all behind on my way to Vancouver in 68.

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mootpoint20
9/19/2019 12:59 EST

As to China, they've allowed massive shipments of fentynal to be sent to America, which would never be allowed in their own country. People would be shot. It's being sent to non medical, non licensed, drug-dealers who are multiplying like flies and killing hundreds of people who overdose constantly on this powerful drug. This is not for their GDP, and it is classical aggressive activity similar to Japanese before WW11. "You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing." We're headed for an absolute confrontation.

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mootpoint20
9/19/2019 13:04 EST

Exactly.

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Robertdav298
9/19/2019 21:43 EST

MOOT as I have posted previously previous administrations were not willing to deal with China for what they were and the US paid for their lack of leadership.
But 2016 changed the way our leadership views China and now China is paying for their sins......so to speak.

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darkfader24
9/20/2019 00:19 EST

Moot - Re: China shipping drugs into our Country thru drug dealers - Trump is taking a Big Stand against it. And The Dems are taking a Big Stand against Trump. End result? More "Hooked" and/or "Dead" Americans due to this tragic situation.

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Goslig
9/20/2019 02:50 EST

mootpoint20 Chinese send massive quantities of “shabu” or meth to the Philippines too.

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Goslig
9/20/2019 05:50 EST

Robertdav298. Not so much a result of previous administrations failure to act as their catering to corporate interests. Think GM.

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Robertdav298
9/20/2019 05:58 EST

GOS....yes it is a well publicized fact that corporate America got very fat for 3 decades selling out the American people for $$$. However; what I meant was the administrations at that time were in bed with corporate America and basically did nothing UNTIL NOW.

By the way be very careful when you by prescription drugs from INDIA, they are known for selling counterfit meds.

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Goslig
9/20/2019 06:14 EST

Robertdav298 I got an on-line pharmacy from the Vancouver area that has been accredited by the watchdog organisation that investigates these pharmacies. They are also certified by the Better Business Bureau and other consumer groups. Turkey is another counterfeit drug dealer.

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mootpoint20
9/20/2019 10:52 EST

Your notation concerning India is real important. They offer 10 percent on the American dollar and they're selling a lot of so-called identical drugs.

(Whew! I guess I should throw away my package of "Hindu-Hilarity")

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surfingcebu
9/22/2019 01:05 EST

Moot, The Chinese are trying to destroy United States, with various drugs. They are going through Port city‘s, airports, and the southern border. At this point it’s almost unstoppable. They will flood United States with various street drugs like never before. It will weaken the resolve of the United States and its ability to defend itself. This plan, has been ongoing for the last 10 years. It has been discussed routinely within inside circles, within the Chinese communist party. A well-known fact. Your president, knows this as well. He is trying to stop but getting little help from Congress.

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Robertdav298
9/22/2019 01:11 EST

SURF......as always spot on!

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mootpoint20
9/22/2019 11:38 EST

Robert...……..I was reluctant to think so. But this is classically hidden aggressive behavior. It's catastrophic. Not that America is self-indulgent, or historically ignorant of the effects of decadence, which of course it is, but I'm inclined to believe in this final 'decline' and the inevitability of $$$ over values causing implosion. (Trump is a stop-gap only for awhile).

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mootpoint20
9/22/2019 11:48 EST

Surf, yes, very informative. It's a capitalist nation run by their communist dream of world conquest. They want the Western Hemisphere 'drunk' before marching West.

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mactan64
9/22/2019 12:32 EST

Revelence to living in the Philipines.If u want politics I'm sure their & numerous sites & this one isn't one of them.

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mootpoint20
9/22/2019 20:24 EST

I agree with MACTAN 64. One bad egg can destroy a neighborhood. Fast, easy, money. and once you have a buyer, he becomes an addict and therefore another dealer. Your drug business grows with leaps and bounds by itself. Hunter Biden is a cocaine addict, sold guns to China and Ukraine, and his dad is running for President? Hey, let's hear it for Trump! Trump! Trump!

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Robertdav298
9/30/2019 00:15 EST

SURF, I saw today on FOX NEWS, that by the year 2023 China will have surpassed the US in Military power and it did not surprise me after all that I have been reading.
Just think how this will affect the smaller ASIAN countries i.e RP, Vietnam and South Korea.
Even though SKOR is backed by the US, interesting read.

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Robertdav298
9/30/2019 00:26 EST

MACTAN....since you live on Mactan I thought I would share this little tidbit as it concerns the Chinese.

Last saturday my wife and I were celebrating our anniverary at the Shangrila Resort in Mactan. We were eating our dinner when all of a sudden, music began to play, all of the waiters and chefs came out and formed a welcoming line, clapping hands and singing. I thought maybe D30 was here unannouced as he has been known to do.
Well we saw this older Chinese gentlemen with several young ladies accompanying him, we thought maybe a movie star or dignitary.

As it turns out the gentlemen was a wealthy CHINESE INVESTMENT TYCOON.

My point is I wonder if they would have done this for an American Investor........say ELON MUSK or JEFF BEZOS.........I think not.

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Morgacj2004
9/30/2019 00:30 EST

It wouldn’t have been done because they wouldn’t have asked and further wouldn’t have been in a public resort. Those type of people embrace their privacy. Chinese love to flaunt their wealth and power. All about status and showing off.

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darkfader24
9/30/2019 01:44 EST

RobertDav - Re: The Chinese Tycoon - Sounds like some serious Ass Kissing to me. Makes me want to puke!!

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Robertdav298
9/30/2019 20:21 EST

YEAH at my daughters school last year in March there was a well known Politician named "BONGO'" that was campaigning at the school.....my goddness what an all out blowout fiesta, people waving in the streets, bands playing etc....food everywhere!

It remeinded me of when I was stationed in McAllen AFB......on the border.

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LarryKar
10/1/2019 02:28 EST

Robert I imagine it was Bong Go. Two names. He was DU's Personal Assistant for 21 years and now he is a Senator. Not sure if he is a good guy or bad guy just get tired of seeing him lurking near by almost every time DU is on TV. Rather they showed more that adorable female soldier that must carry the Presidents snacks in that bag she always totes around.

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Robertdav298
10/1/2019 02:36 EST

Larry....yeah your right..it was two names...and yes there were posters everywhere of him and D30......I missed the ladies though :)

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darkfader24
10/1/2019 05:40 EST

RobertDav - In response to Bon Go campaigning at your daughter's school - THAT is reprehensible and should never be allowed. It sounds like the Friction' Wild West over there. The school is a tax payer funded facility, right? And with vulnerable children there being influenced / swayed by just having that guy around. It's just plain wrong. OK - that's as Political as I'm gonna get cuz I promised to stay out of these arguments.

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Goslig
10/1/2019 06:37 EST

LarryKar. Bong Go
Go was born on June 14, 1974. He is a grandson of August Tesoro, whose father founded one of the largest printing press in Davao City. Go attended De La Salle University and graduated with a Management degree. He was a basketball star. He is reported to have Chinese ancestry. He has been Duterte’s personal aide since 1998. I believe he will run for President based on the fact that Duterte has an approval rating of 78% (SWS)..Philippine citizens are overwhelmingly satisfied with President Rodrigo Duterte's bloody war on drugs, a survey showed, giving a boost to a government outraged by an international push to investigate allegations of systematic murders by police. The quarterly poll of 1,200 Filipinos by Social Weather Stations returned a rating of "excellent" for Duterte's three-year campaign, with 82% satisfied due to a perception of less drugs and crime in the country. Pragmatism rules.

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Robertdav298
10/1/2019 08:06 EST

Larry......wow I did not know who this guy was, thanks now I do.

Yeah there is alot of speculation about who will replace D30 when he dies or retires......I have heard many names mentoned among my Filipino friends but one name mentoned the most is Marcos.

Dark, my daughter attends Indiana Aerospace University which is a private school. The campus is huge and is broken up into 3 sections: elementary i.e 1-8, 8-12 and college of 4 years.
The school is a feeder system for Airlines i.e PAL, CEBU PACIFIC, AIR ASIA and CATHAY PACIFIC.

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Robertdav298
10/1/2019 08:14 EST

Has anyone been watching the news on the happenings in Hong Kong, especially today? I saw that a protester was shot theand is in critical condition.

You have to wonder when government will intervene? This is now about Democracy versus the Communist government.......question is....will they squash it?

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LovePhilly
10/1/2019 10:13 EST

Robert, the Chinese just doubled the troop presence there. I suspect they will move in at any time. That's a mess.

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LarryKar
10/1/2019 19:35 EST

RE Hong Kong. My gal worked there for 12 years. We have many Filipino friends and she still keeps in touch with her old employer. The Philippine Consulate issues frequent notices of the " best guess" as to where the hot spots will be that day/week. Warning Filipinos to stay away from both the protesters ,and lately they have added the police. Read into that what you wish. The old line Hong Kongers like my gal's former employer thought it would end " when those kids go back to school". Nope. While my Solidarity is with anyone fighting for democracy I have repeatedly said that closing down airports, fire bombing the police and government buildings, trying to blind police with laser lights, etc etc is not how you win. I also do not know how you win against China. It is telling that they have not released the Chinese Garrison yet. If this was Tiawan or Macau they would have by now. But I fear the worst is coming any moment. Just glad that Trump and the US Congress are distracted right now. They will not help only stir the pot.

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Robertdav298
10/1/2019 20:30 EST

Larry/Love, my family and I frequently visit HK on our way back from the US, we enjoy HK nd the many things to do there.

As for the politics of the protesters, in my opinion they cannot win because its the perverbial mosquito on the elephant secnario.

But knowing Chinese history I fear the HK that we once knew may be a thing of the past. AS USUAL ITS ALL ABOUT THE $$$$$$.

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LarryKar
10/1/2019 23:34 EST

I can only agree Robert. The irony is that a big part of the reason for the protest but nobody makes bumper stickers or signs about is the kids feeling so hopeless as to finding really good jobs, housing they can afford, etc. Yet by what they are doing shutting down airports, closing public transportation, rampaging in malls and shopping areas, setting fires in the financial district they are destroying the Hong Kong that they grew up in and we as tourists came to love. Where do they think the good jobs will come from in a ghost town?

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mootpoint20
10/5/2019 12:20 EST

Continual corruption and neglect creates a final reaction with enormous consequences. We have moderators here, to halt the unquenchable desire for some to exploit the majority. It's the same in government. Veterans understand this much more than the average citizen. Last week Mexico uncovered over 30 tons of Fentanyl on ship from Shanghai destined for USA using criminals. The reaction of Duterte will happen in America to the deliberate 'drug' demoralization in the Philippines. It's only natural. A peculiar similarity to Pearl Harbor, more subtle and more serious, is now occurring in U.S. by C.China. and elsewhere. There will be a dramatic reaction. (Of course, China can't change its name, and then continue the same BS.) Duterte is correct.

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darkfader24
10/5/2019 20:08 EST

RobertDav - Re: "Indiana Aerospace University" - I just looked it up, thinking it was in Indiana, USA - which is where my son lives. I see it is in the RP and looks to be a great place to learn. Kudos to your daughter! I see that she is following in her Father's footsteps. That is wonderful news. I know that you are very proud of her. What are her ambitions? Does she want to be a Commercial Airline Pilot - and Fly The Friendly Skies? Wishing her the Very Best!

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Goslig
10/6/2019 03:32 EST

mootpoint20. I agree with everything you posted except your assumption that “veterans understand this better than the average citizen”.

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mootpoint20
10/8/2019 16:34 EST

I'm glad I have the last word on this enormous column. Analysis of communism is implicit to examine China's threat. The Marxist adheres to dialectical-materialism; the foundation of physical science. What they consider inevitable they promote in a secret manner. As I stated, the saturated and decadent lifestyles of the West make it prone to 'drugs, sex, and rock and roll'. China is using that. Liberal idiocy hands out welfare,($600 ?),, while robbing our banks like the Bidens did. Without understanding the constant centralization of all capital, it is difficult to make sound economic decisions. "Gee, this feels good!" Look up the banker, Jakob Fugger and his conflict in Germany with Luther. It's unique. (Ipso facto: "Fear God and keep his commandments." and watch out for China.)

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LarryKar
10/8/2019 18:01 EST

moot: Shame you couldn't help yourself using the " Biden is bad" card. I was actually agreeing to a lot you were saying. But then all credibility went poof. Disappointed that you failed the Minion test and didn't throw in a " Demoncrat" or a reference to " Killery".

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rebtop
10/8/2019 18:13 EST

Well it is all over the internet, galaxy even, perfect disclosure, hugh, trump tried to grope his daughter. He did not denigh it, Refused to even answer the question. The look on her face said it all when she was asked the same question. What a sleaze bag and he is our president.

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mootpoint20
10/8/2019 19:38 EST

Larry: You don't really know which Biden I was talking about. Or what Clinton I was thinking of. Did you know John Kerry's step-son, the Heinz Ketchup-king, was with Hunter Biden and all the other Ukrainiacs? Look, Larry, the 'Damn-ocrats are all going to hell...it's that simple. Even Nancy Pelosi has a son involved with these 'Ukrainiacs'. Where did the Ukraine get so much money to support these Damn-ocrats I'll never know? . If I were you I'd get off their ship while its still sinking.

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surfingcebu
10/8/2019 21:06 EST

Renton- well if it’s ALL OVER THE INTERNET...... we must know it’s true , right? OMG!!! Say it enough times and you believe it yourself!!!

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Goslig
10/9/2019 03:51 EST

mootpoint20. Somewhat accurate but, again, full of partisan horse feathers. Regardless of their faults, they must be doing something right to rise from a starving, deeply poverty stricken country on October 1, 1949 to one of the richest and most powerful nations in the world. Guess who America owes most of its 22 trillion in debt to, CHINA.

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Goslig
10/9/2019 03:55 EST

rebtop, his big head is empty inside, so he prefers to think with his little head no matter where he pokes it.

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Goslig
10/9/2019 03:58 EST

surfingcebu repeating a word over and over adapts out critical thinking: “no collusion , no obstruction”, “witch hunt”, “perfect call”, “you cannot criminally charge a sitting president”.......

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rebtop
10/9/2019 05:57 EST

Moot. No sky pilot is going to help. I believe in Casper the Friendly Ghost. My true savior. He floats around everywhere saving people. My religion is CTFG and consists of millions of congregants. We are tax exempt and support communism. Praise Casper on high.

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Morgacj2004
10/9/2019 13:13 EST

There is NO POINT to continue discussing the proposed impeachment. No matter how you feel or what your position is it will never happen as long as the Republicans control the Senate! NEVER EVER.

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redlandchuck
10/9/2019 22:28 EST

Sorta like in content with this topic:
I can see now that Major League Basketball in USA is just money hungry and dont care about human rights . I would like them to just stop playing ball in China and support the HK protesters. Without American top players China basketball will be boring. OK Ok so pl;ayers will lose a few millions big deal

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Goslig
10/9/2019 23:07 EST

Morgacj2004 On your point about the Republican controlled Senate, I agree with you 100%. Only the upcoming election will determine the future of America.

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mootpoint20
10/11/2019 14:44 EST

Rebtop: This is an idiotic conversation. Don't you know what 'moribund-capitalism' is? Look up, Jakob Fugger. How can you prattle on about inane pie-in-the-sky notions of communism. You lucked out in the morphic condition of the universe by being a human in the Philippines? What are the odds? Don't you consider it odd? Don't you consider your communist- -identification odd? It is very odd, just ask anyone here.

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Robertdav298
10/12/2019 02:50 EST

Thanks Dark......you know how every DAD wants his child to follow what they did.....right? I am no different, however, I decided a long time ago that I would only point her in that directon and see what she does on her own.
AT IAU she has all that she needs to help her make her own decisions.
Actually, if she does well here I would like her to apply at the USAF academy, again.....we will see,
Her mother is an elementary school teacher having graduated from the University of CEBU......so I got competition....LOL.

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Robertdav298
10/12/2019 02:54 EST

REDLAND.......PRO Basketball athletes are a bunch of overpaid kids, most are thugs......I quit watching the NBA years ago.

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Robertdav298
10/12/2019 03:00 EST

RED....did you by any chance see the interview with the head coach of Golden State, Steve Kerr......as he compared Communist China to the US?

After watching I was so overcome with disbelief all I could do was laugh.
What a Patriot......NOT

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darkfader24
10/12/2019 04:06 EST

Robert - I am SO disappointed in Steve Kerr. I am a University of Arizona Alum (Tucson AZ) as is he. When he was on their basketball team in the mid-1980s under Lute Olson, we were SO VERY Proud of him, and all "The Gumbies". Steve had lost his father to Mid-Eastern extremists and had overcome much to become such an amazing Ball player. He was the one that pretty much led the charge in College Basketball "3 Pointers". Now, it is common due to him. He had a good career that we have watched closely these many years. He was with Sir Charles Barclay and the Phoenix Suns, The Indomitable Chicago Bulls with Michael Jordan and other greats, and at least one other good team. He has done an incredible job leading the Golden State Warriors - and for me that is awesome, as he is just down the road from me in Sacramento. But his recent comments have me in absolute shock! My Hero has gone AWOL - and I am very sad indeed.

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Robertdav298
10/12/2019 06:20 EST

Dark, that is what happens to people who think they live in an alternate universe where MONEY RULES. They lose sight of traditional American values much like the Hollywood people....example R. Deniro......what a nut case.

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rebtop
10/12/2019 06:27 EST

Robert. I have a correction for you. Your spelling. R.Deniro should be spelt
D. Rump. No offense as we all make mistakes and do not make perfect phone calls.

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rebtop
10/12/2019 07:59 EST

Dark.... why are you disappointed? He did not betray our allies. he did not sell them them out for money. He did not lie. I think you are disappointed with the wrong person.

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rebtop
10/12/2019 08:00 EST

Robert .. you area jingoist.

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gypsyquokka
10/12/2019 10:20 EST

Mootpoint - You posted to Rebtop = "Don't you consider your communist- -identification odd? It is very odd, just ask anyone here."

Ask anyone here? I for one do not agree with your thoughts. Rebtop is entitled to an opinion on the Forum, just as much as yourself. I have read his posts and see nothing "odd" as you say.

Show some respect to others on the Forum, by politely disagreeing with their point of view.
Smile, Dane

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surfingcebu
10/12/2019 12:04 EST

Robert - you may have a point here with the NBA . I often wondered , if it were not for their NCAA stint and the Pro NBA career , how may would be serving jail time right now . My guess is about 60-65% .
Most come from gang infested areas where NOT being a gang member is not an option .

I took a quick trip to LA , last month . I must say that Manila appears safer now - by a long shot ! Most parts of LA are filled with non USA citizens of dubious backgrounds . Police have lost control of that city years and years ago . Gang run the city now . Probably the Mayors office too !

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Goslig
10/12/2019 21:02 EST

surfingcebu Where I grew up on the South side of Chicago, there were never and riots because the Chicago police asked the gangs, “Blackstone Rangers” & “Englewood Disciples” to keep the peace for a certain quid pro quo. The best thing the ghetto had was an empty lot with a hoop. There was more racism in Chicago after Civil Rights than there was in Florida. I worked for the YMCA as a youth club organiser to attract young Blacks away from the gangs with free YMCA memberships where there was a nice indoor basketball court. Where I lived, having some kind of good relationship with my local gang was unavoidable. They controlled the turf, not the Chicago police.

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mootpoint20
10/13/2019 00:13 EST

DeNiro is an unhappy man. Recently divorced, always expected but failed to reach the magnitude of Marlon Brando,-- and even Al Pacino was greater. He's very rich, but very miserable.

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darkfader24
10/13/2019 03:09 EST

Rebtop - What is a "area jingoist"? Does that have something to do with "Area 51", or other weird place/area?

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Robertdav298
10/13/2019 03:17 EST

REBTOP........what language are you speaking when using the word "spelt"?

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darkfader24
10/13/2019 03:20 EST

Reb - I never said that I wasn't disappointed with Trump. I am - in regards to pulling out of Northern Syria at this particular time. You assume too much, Sir. And you are judgmental in your assumptions. In regards to my disappointment with Steve Kerr - he actually suggested that America's "Civil Rights violations" had to do with mentally disturbed INDIVIDUALS doing Mass shootings in Texas and Walmart type of places. As if our Government and Citizens approved of such abominable murderous behavior! He excuses China's Systemic Governmental abuses by comparing them to individual nut jobs! He calls our nut job murderers' actions "America's Civil Rights Violations". There is a serious disconnect there. I thought Steve was an intelligent person. I NOW think he's an absolute MORON!

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Robertdav298
10/13/2019 03:29 EST

WOW REBTOP.......I have benn called many things in my liftetime but never a "jingoist".

Not sure if I am supposed to be happy or pissed. Oh well no matter I will just ignore it like I do with 99.9 percent of your posts.
By the way in my native tongue you are a WICESKIPASISIE

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Goslig
10/13/2019 05:18 EST

mootpoint20 You could never say anything nice about anyone unless they support your political bias. You are posting fake information. You know nothing about DiNiro unless you are a close friend of his.

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rebtop
10/13/2019 07:52 EST

Moot does not belong on this site with his faux news diatribes. I am sure he has some corner of Facebook where he and his ilk commiserate all day long. That is where he belongs.

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rebtop
10/13/2019 07:57 EST

Robert. I did not mean to offend you. It is a label. Either fits or it doesn’t. Jingoist conveys the view point of MY COUNRY ,RIGHT OR WRONG. If you feel that betraying our allies, Kurds, is right you are a jingoist.

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rebtop
10/13/2019 08:00 EST

Robert thank you for calling my attention to my over active spell checker.ARE A was the intended phrase.

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rebtop
10/13/2019 08:03 EST

Moot you comment on DiNiro being an unhappy man is my opinion also. A few others i can include in that group also.

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rebtop
10/13/2019 08:11 EST

Goslig there is a series on BBC about knife attacks in London. More frequent and more deadly. Seems violence is everywhere. Not sure if it is more frequent or just more publicized.

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mootpoint20
10/13/2019 11:47 EST

Reb------My diatribe about communism was a canard. Not serious. But this fellow 'Jakob Fugger' was the first international banker, 16th century, and quite amazing, controlling the German civil wars with 'loans' and the Vatican's debt. It's well worth reading on your internet.

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Morgacj2004
10/13/2019 12:59 EST

Rebtop. The US needs to stop being the worlds police force. We can no longer afford it. It is one of the main reasons our deficit is so large. Other countries need to step in and do their part. I am damm tired of protecting other countries interests many of whom now have a higher standard of living than the US. !

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darkfader24
10/13/2019 15:58 EST

Morgac - I agree. The US cannot continue the expenditure of our young people and great finances policing the immature and endless vicious actions of people on each other around the World. This Planet is full of Bullies. Always has been and always will be. The fires that we are always trying to quell are endless. We need to figure out who are our most important, loyal, and vulnerable Allies - and stand by them. The rest must deal with the cards that life has dealt them. The USA IS NOT responsible for the World's problems. We need to focus on our own problems, which are legion. We need to build up our resources so that they are available for the great natural calamities around the World - Earthquakes, Tsunamis, Famine, etc. We should help anyone and everyone that we can in those instances.

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rebtop
10/13/2019 17:09 EST

Dark do you really believe our interests are altruistic? Really? The good guys? No other overriding interest? Say, maybe oil? Natural resources? Trump towers? What do you really think?

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rebtop
10/13/2019 17:16 EST

Morgacj. Like my previous post, do you really believe our interests are altruistic? We wear a white hat? If you do I sincerely think the Kool-aid is stale. I stopped believing it yers ago.

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Robertdav298
10/13/2019 20:08 EST

reb.......I am a USAF Vet of 30 years and I learned a long time ago that the military and politics are oil and water.

However; I agree 100% with MORGAC and I am glad to see we finally have a President that believes it is time to bring our guys home.
Let the rest of the world handle it, we cannot financially support other countries military endeavors.

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Robertdav298
10/13/2019 20:16 EST

DARK/MORGAC, I think most people in the US agree with you on this......we can be strong and batlle ready without constantly policing other countries.

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surfingcebu
10/13/2019 21:19 EST

Robert - research the Ottoman Empire , they came within inches of Muslim domination in Europe. They expanded fast and efficiently.... I still don’t know how the Ottomans did it . Europe almost fell to the Muslims . I predict history will repeat itself soon. As the Christians are weak and fractionated, much like their European society. They don’t have a belly, courage, or a spine to fight.Let’s face it, they won’t even cover their NATO or defensive obligations.

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surfingcebu
10/13/2019 21:22 EST

Robert- I am with you, bring the American troops home is a difficult decision, but the only decision. Enough coffins and American kids pushing up daisies.
Canada depends on the Americans for military defense. I don’t think this will change anytime soon. We have well train troops however Canada, like many other allies, depend on the military mate of the United States. Turning their back on Canada, could give the Russians and China and opportunity on your doorstep. The best for the USA is to keep Canada close, like a brother.

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mootpoint20
10/13/2019 21:38 EST

I was stationed at Clark AFB. Christianity is not discombobulated, America is. The rabid excitement of Progressives 'liberating' every aberration known to mankind and creating laws to protect it, reveals a lack of historical memory. Ancient Greece, Rome, Imperial France (Marquis De Sade), and Great Britain eventually collapsed and the sign, not the cause, was the mindless decadence. Recent D. Presidential candidate suggested removing tax privileges for religion if objection to aberrations did not stop. But Christianity will emerge and flourish in communist china, if America rejects it.

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darkfader24
10/13/2019 22:35 EST

Rebtop - No, I don't believe that ALL of America's actions in the World are altruistic. I think that SOME of them are. I think it all depends on who in Washington DC is behind any particular maneuver - that is what makes that particular thing good or bad. You may find this hard to believe, but America does actually help people, sending food, medical supplies, personnel, medical people - into areas hurt by tragic situations, whether acts of nature or acts of men. No, not everything that America does is good. Some of it is well intentioned - yet screws everything up with it's consequences. Some of it turns out well. That's why I say we need to mind our own business - and very carefully consider our involvement in situations - especially political ones in other countries. I think that we need to build up our resources at home so that we are ready for disasters both here and abroad, You never know when tragedy will strike. I couldn't be happier over the fact that we are now "Oil Independent". We no longer need to depend solely on the oil of Saudi Arabia - and those that would wish us harm.

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catabisis
10/14/2019 01:40 EST

Rebtop , I’m with you here.

Morgacj. Like my previous post, do you really believe our interests are altruistic? We wear a white hat? If you do I sincerely think the Kool-aid is stale. I stopped