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SirPogi
9/30/2019 18:17 EST

I have had the plan to move to the Philippines for a while now but just now getting things in motion as I have finally set a time period of when I would like to move. I have considered going to college while there and many of my Filipino friends suggested a Student visa. However, finding out this informstion of what i need has been a task and shown little to no results. The student visa really isn't the major concern as much as what would I need for me to live there permanently. I do know that if i olan to stay for 30 days I would not require and visas and that I an also apply for a extension of 29 days. What would be needed for me to stay permanently? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

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TheIslandGeneration
9/30/2019 21:27 EST

You may have other visa options but you haven't said what your age is?? Retirement visas as an example or for life. I've also heard that Du30 was trying to cut back on people using extended visas like the six month visa maybe others can confirm this or not. Student visas are just that your student get done being a student you gotta leave I could put you in a bad situation if you sort of invested where to live and other things.

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Goslig
9/30/2019 21:28 EST

SirPogo

http://immigration.gov.ph/

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SirPogi
10/1/2019 01:35 EST

My age is 29. I plan to stay there permanently and wonder what woulld be the best course of action for this.

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Goslig
10/1/2019 08:18 EST

SirPogi keep extending your Tourist Visa for three years, then leave the Philippines for at least a day and re-enter. If you get married some day, your Filipina wife can sponsor you for a non-quota Permanent Resident Visa. But I would be very, very careful about marriage. The rules about immigration are very different if you are married. Just flirting or chatting on Messenger to another woman can get you jailed and deported. If you have $20,000 USD you can buy a retirement visa at age 35 if you are not from one of the excluded countries.

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draks
10/2/2019 12:12 EST

At 29 your options to live here permanently are a bit restrictive. Not sure if you can apply for the srrv visa but I think you would have to deposit $50,000 in a Filipino bank. Look it up or go to the Philippine Embassy in your country.
How will you survive for the rest of your life? Jobs here are really badly paid, even if you were able to get one, not that easy to live and work here. This place is cheaper than USA and Europe, but still costs a fair bit to live here. Unless you have millions of dollars to last you many years or you you are a proffesional that Philippines need desperately, other than that you will struggle here to be honest. Most who live here are old farts like me, with a pension. If you have an outside income, that's great, if you don't, then it's gonna be tough really.
One piece of advice, don't be tempted to work without a visa, they are getting tough on illegal workers, and overstayers.
I wish you luck, Philippines can be a great place to live, but it can be very harsh and unforgiving if you are not very careful.

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SirPogi
10/2/2019 16:27 EST

I wouldnt be living alone. I would be living with a Filipino while I am there. I am not wothout a plan as far as income goes. I do know that i cant get a permanent visa until 35 and i will have investments by that time to remove any financial issues. After I had done further research I found that i just need to work on getting a long term visitor visa.

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lancelotlinc
10/2/2019 17:13 EST

You cannot work on a visitor visa. You seem to be challenged reading the Philippine immigration website. Maybe you need help.

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SirPogi
10/2/2019 17:48 EST

Im not challenged reading the immigration sight. My intial reason was finding what was needed just to get into the country so i can work on getting the other visas i would need to reside there during the 5-10 year process for naturalization.

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SirPogi
10/2/2019 17:50 EST

I also did not mention anything about working while having a visitors visa, so i am not sure as to why you even brought that up.

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LarryKar
10/2/2019 18:47 EST

SirPogi don't know you beyond what you have written here. Not sure what research you are looking at but many of us have been here a long time. If you think we are tough wait till you are standing at the counter explaining your situation to a Philippine Immigration Officer. There are two ways to be granted Permanent Residence status. The Retirement Visa for which you are too young or getting married to a Filipina. Beyond that there is a Tourist Visa which must be renewed on a regular basis and depending on your Passport country of origin you must still leave from time to time and come back to reset the clock. To achieve Naturalization I believe you must have lived here 10 years and speak fluent Filipino. At your age and 10 years to learn doable I suppose. There is a Quota System but only 50 foreigners a year are approved.. I've never met or even heard of anyone who actually made the grade that route. Think you would need a really in demand skill and be politically connected here way above most of our pay grades. Again don't know you and nothing personal but your story of having investments coming in 5 or 10 years down the road raises red flags. That great but what about next week? Once more not personal but do not even dream of doing anything illegal. Trust me this ain't Kansas. They shoot first and investigate later.

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SirPogi
10/2/2019 18:58 EST

The permanent status isnt my main goal at this moment which is what everyone isnt seeing. My main purpose of this was to see what all i needed to get into the country, which i have mentioned a couple of times now. I know the naturalization process as i have done the research on that already. All i simply want to kmow is what visa (if needed) will be required for me to get into the country long enough to take care of the other things that i will need later on.

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mactan64
10/2/2019 19:44 EST

Simply get urself 3 - 6 MTH Visa untile u have to leave the country & start the professional again.U can skip all that by giving immigration ABOUT 5Million Peso's I'm told u can use that money to build or buy off the plan or buy it a existing.Immigration here is COOL...

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LovePhilly
10/2/2019 20:01 EST

Listen to Mactan Sir, just enter on a tourist visa and follow the rules. That will give you a few years to do whatever else you want.

Does that answer your question?

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draks
10/2/2019 20:41 EST

Sir Pogi, you will have to be extremely $$$$ rich to live here for 10 years without an income. As I said before, it's cheaper here than the west, but not cheap, things like electronics, TV etc are expensive here, cars also expensive. House rentals can be as cheap or expensive as you want. If you live in the middle of no where in a Hut, eating rice and dried fish, it's cheap, but to live a decent life in a decent house is going to cost, electricity is expensive, so running an air-con 24/7 is expensive.
I have been living here 10 years solid now visited for 15 years every year before that. I have seen men come and go, and some fall fowl of the law, so many leave after a few years here. I have met men who are homeless, and begging on the streets after losing all their money here, it's no joke. I don't know if you are gay straight or what, finding a partner will be easy, finding a partner that will not extract all your money from you will be a challenge. I have met so many expats here over the years, but I have never met anyone that wasable to survive on savings alone, their 5 year plan only lasted 2 or 3 years.
Don't come here wearing rose tinted glasses, this is NOT paradise, you have to be extremely careful, and DONT trust anyone, don't tell anyone how much money you have, they will come out of the woodwork asking for loans etc. This country can be hugely frustrating, and I garauntee it will make you so angry sometimes. As a foreigner, you will find that you pay more for nearly everything. It get tiring knowing the price you have been quoted is much higher than a Filipino, bloody infuriating. Racism is alive and well in the Philippines.
If I sound full of doom and gloom, is because you should be aware of the downside of living here every day in day out. It can be a fantastic place to live but it can be extremely difficult as well. Nothing is straight forward here you will learn. Whether you will be able to stick it for 10 years and more remains to be seen.
One thing that occurred to me, you have to live here 10 years solid to get naturalisation, but on a visitors passport you have to leave every 36 months come back and start all over again intake not concurrent, when you come back you have to start the process all over again from scratch. You better check on that.

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surfingcebu
10/2/2019 21:35 EST

Draks - some good advise here . Your right racism is alive and well here , very frustrating to see as I know my Pinoy friends are better than. that !
How would you explain the Chinese who seem to "out corrupt " the Pinoys ?. They play the game smooth and dont seem to be overcharged for things, from my view .Are Pinoys intimidated by the Chinese ? Hmmm I wonder at times . Good points though Draks, Its Not Hawaii here . HA!!

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