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NA67
  12/6/2016 21:17 EST

I might be wrong for posting these words, but I am so pissed right now. I must!!! I just meet a young lady tonight from Italy, living here in Salt Lake City. To make a long story short. She married an American, moved to the USA to live with him and his daughter. But, within a year, she was beaten up, treated badly, he was a drug user, had to get a protective order against him. Now, she is living on her own, alone in a foreign country, no friends, no family here, trying very hard to make a life on her own. Her story really struck a nerve with me tonight.

This is the third lady I have meet that has a similar story. 2 were from Ukraine. And 1 from Italy. All treated badly by American men and kicked out on their azz to struggle alone.

Boy's.....if you are not honest with these ladies, if you are not capable of being kind, if you cant act like a real man, if you are not responsible, if you are only after sex with a hot young European babe. LEAVE THESE LADIES ALONE!!! They don't deserve this kind of treatment!!!

Some American men are really making the rest of us look bad. And I guess in ways, these fools are making some of us appear to be angles!! Get it together men....

hsvgto
  12/7/2016 00:19 EST

well said Na67...to this day I still can't believe a guy, usually twice the size of a girl can even risk striking her without breaking her. and who cares if she's being naughty with mind games and illogical behaviour....just walk away...say I can't read you and walk away. Can you believe statistically Three women in are murdered by their partners every WEEk in Australia

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Russophile
  12/7/2016 07:18 EST

First of all, I don't condone hitting a woman for any reason. Secondly, there is always two sides to every story..."He said," "she said", and the truth is somewhere in the middle. For every woman that gives you a sob story like you told us about (I have heard many of them), there is a visa whore that maneuvered a guy into getting her a ticket to America. As soon as she got a job and a green card, she filed a 'domestic violence' claim against him and took everything he had in the divorce.
I just got an email from a woman this morning looking for a husband (and the accompanying love and romance). When I told her I lived in Ukraine, she said she wasn't interested because she wanted a ticket out of Ukraine. She let that slip because I looked her up on VK and she was talking to me without her 'marriage agency handler'.
The point is this: There are sad stories on both sides. Not everyone deserves the bad breaks (men or women), and don't believe everything you hear.

anthonybyrne
  12/7/2016 08:21 EST

Hi,
Just wanted to say that this was a well written and an honest appraisal of the situation in regards to some Ukranian women. I fortunately know a lot of Ukranian women through my wife who have been great, but unfortunately there are the few who are only after the visa and tend to give the genuine one's a bad name.

NA67
  12/7/2016 09:24 EST

I know 2 of these ladies personally, I know both the men and both the ladies for about 4 years now. Their stories are legit. Scammed, mislead and lied to by their husbands about many things to just get them to the USA. Then how things changed......I was not speaking of your friends Russo. I was speaking of 2 ladies I have known personally !! One from Colorado other from Missouri.

And no they were not Visa chaseing whores.

extremevx
  12/7/2016 13:11 EST

This is why the IMBRA law was made to vet these dudes who have had domestic violence in their past, etc. Remember the man from Seattle that went kasikstan I think. Brought a beautiful blonde back. A few years later she left him and he killed her. It went national on 60 minutes or something like that. But the IMBRA laws came about because of it. But I'm sure people slip threw the cracks.

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NA67
  12/7/2016 16:59 EST

Extreme, I remember that story. Similar story our of Las Vegas in 2011 or 2012. Russian lady killed by jealous controlling husband. He got angry because she wanted to work, he did not want her around other men. he was a dork, she was beautiful.

hsvgto
  12/7/2016 23:08 EST

yeah caught the tail end of that tragic story about the Slavic stunner tricked by the underwhelming hill-billy. We men and women need exit strategies prepared before hand to avoid disasters like that.

Russophile
  12/9/2016 09:59 EST

NA67, I don't doubt for a moment the validity of the experiences of the two women you know. I have my own first hand experiences. The fact that my lovely Ukrainian fiancee that ran off and married another man a week before our wedding is an interesting story by itself, but my favorite story comes from my good friend. He found a beautiful woman with a 14 year old boy in Ukraine and anxiously awaited her arrival after her visa was processed. The process took 8 months, in which he could not return to Ukraine. He didn't see her again until she and her son arrived in the US. With their first warm embrace, he knew something was terribly wrong. She was six months pregnant (do the math). She had a ticket to America and she wasn't going to let anything stop her from getting there.

The point of this discussion is that there is abuse on both sides and there is not much that is going to change it.

IMBRA is a joke. All a man has to do to comply is to state that he doesn't have a criminal record, state that he is legally divorced, and tell what states he has lived in. None of these will prevent the kind of abuse we read about and will continue to read about.

Sonny17373
  12/17/2016 11:28 EST

I am not saying that these ladies story is not true, but my wife has told me that women who come to the US are told by other women about the domestic violence out. My wife was told by her cousin when she first came here that if she wanted out of the marriage to file domestic violence charges with the police. That is what my wife's cousin did with her first husband that brought her to the US. So these women stories might be true but a number of women who came here use domestic violence to get out of their marriage and stay in the US.

psuper85
  12/18/2016 02:41 EST

It happened to me,they learn quick, and American women overwhelm them and make them think this is the way to go.....my ex Russian was actually sorryou and wanted me back...but no way..she started dropping all.her Russian style....baggy sweaT's, greedy, spoiled, bitching...just let herself go...I will be very bring one back...only live abroad.

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