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MysticF
8/15/2019 22:06 EST

I am currently making plans to move to Jamaica, Kingston area, and I am searching for a job and connections there.

I’m a FashionDesign / Stylist/ Sourcing/ Development and Production manager seeking work in Jamaica. I'm Italian and i live and worked in New York ,I speak Italian and English.

I have 12+ years experience . My main experience is in Fashion
but and I looking for new job opportunities and connections in Jamaica but I’m Interested in proposals outside of fashion too!

Thanks for any advice!

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menara01
8/16/2019 00:13 EST

Hi Mystic, have you been to Jamaica before and familiar with it. If not I think it's best to visit and see if you really want to live there. Jamaica is not an easy place to live, cost of living is very high. Getting a job in Jamaica is another story. Please do your due deligence.

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MysticF
8/16/2019 07:50 EST

HI, thank for your reply!
Yes I know very well Jamaica and is since 2015 I come there for 3/4 months every year but not in Kingston but in Porto Antonio
but now I'm planning to move there, the time has come for me and so I think Kingston is perfect for me to find work. I think I should try to look on work in the music industry, as a fashion stylist for music videos and photo shoots. at the moment is an growth industry involving many external consultants too. i mean, i need connections, suggestions ...and I'm willing to start with any job.

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Iriestar68
8/16/2019 08:18 EST

How much research have you done?

Do you have any Jamaican ties? Are you married to a Jamaican, are you a Jamaican (by birth) or are you a descendent of a Jamaican?

I ask these questions because you will need a work permit or work permit exemption (thru marriage or citizenship by descent). You can’t decide you’re going to move here and start applying for jobs. It does not work that way.

You will need a bank account (another process), TRN and a Jamaican Driver’s license ( a 3 mths process even when you buy it). And this just to start.

Your best option is to open a business.. a) you don’t need a work permit b) you will make more money (if you get a job it will be in jmd and the pay down here is very, very low.)

Please answer my questions and I’ll do my best to help you.

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MysticF
8/16/2019 16:58 EST

I'm doing research and by word of mouth.
no Jamaica ties, no jamaican boyfriend / husband and not a descendent of a Jamaican.
I know about the visa, for this I need to find the right connection and the visa can be request from
hires company , at the embassy they told me it's better to do in this way especialy if i found a job on my fields.

No I am going to open a business, it is not in my plans for the moment

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Iriestar68
8/17/2019 09:08 EST

The type of visa usually applies to foreign based companies doing business in Jamaica. You’re going to find it very, very difficult (if not impossible) to get a Jamaican company to hire you and to apply for your visa.

You will land on a 3 mth tourist visa.. and you cannot work under the visa unless you’re able to get a work permit. You can extend your tourist visa another 90 days, but unless you get. ‘Status’ here in Jamaica, you will have to leave or face deportation. ( yes, we do deport people).

How are you planning on supporting yourself while here trying to get a work visa? Where are you staying?

Again, if you’re hired at a Jamaican company, you will be making Jamaican wages, in Jamaican dollars and it won’t be much. At all. Minimum wage is 7k jmd a week.... there are not many entry level jobs that pay much above that. Do you know the salary range for the type of work you’re looking for? Trust me, you will not survive on a basic Jamaican salary.

I’m not tying to discourage you from moving, but you need to know the reality of it.

Have you checked the PICA website? It will give you a lot of info regarding work permit and residency and extension of stay.

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Iriestar68
8/17/2019 09:08 EST

The type of visa usually applies to foreign based companies doing business in Jamaica. You’re going to find it very, very difficult (if not impossible) to get a Jamaican company to hire you and to apply for your visa.

You will land on a 3 mth tourist visa.. and you cannot work under the visa unless you’re able to get a work permit. You can extend your tourist visa another 90 days, but unless you get. ‘Status’ here in Jamaica, you will have to leave or face deportation. ( yes, we do deport people).

How are you planning on supporting yourself while here trying to get a work visa? Where are you staying?

Again, if you’re hired at a Jamaican company, you will be making Jamaican wages, in Jamaican dollars and it won’t be much. At all. Minimum wage is 7k jmd a week.... there are not many entry level jobs that pay much above that. Do you know the salary range for the type of work you’re looking for? Trust me, you will not survive on a basic Jamaican salary.

I’m not tying to discourage you from moving, but you need to know the reality of it.

Have you checked the PICA website? It will give you a lot of info regarding work permit and residency and extension of stay.

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Gardis
8/17/2019 09:23 EST

"....but unless you get. ‘Status’ here in Jamaica, you will have to leave or face deportation. ( yes, we do deport people)."


Amazing!!! But in the USA, we're expected to have open borders, decriminalize illegal border crossers, offer asylum, and even pay for health care, while we American suckers are out there humping it every day trying to pay our own health care premiums!

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Gardis
8/17/2019 09:24 EST

In answer to this person's inquiry, let's be more direct: you are not going to find a job in Jamaica. Period. The few jobs go to Jamaican citizens, as they well should. Please do as a previous poster suggested, vacation there and when you have an independent income from elsewhere, then go ahead and see if you can swing it.

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Iriestar68
8/17/2019 10:49 EST

I directed her to the PICA website but seriously doubt she’ll read it... she wants to go on ‘word of mouth’, not laws and processes.

If she can somehow qualify for an extended stay, and makes it fives years, she can then apply for residency.... again, all laid out for her on the PICA site which she should reading inside and out. And contacting the Waterloo office if she has any questions.

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MysticF
8/17/2019 11:57 EST

thank you but I mean I know all this things, I don't looking for a salary like in Usa , lol of course!!!!
I'm not a stupid gyal , I got a green card for my work in the states and if I wanna come in Jamaica is because I want changes my style life and I don't want come there without visa. I just try this forum for connect with peoples and let's see if somebody work in my field. About the immigration law I know all very good thanks you! ... and about the money I don't think is your problem about it, if I decided to do it is because I know if I can do it or not.
So please, no fuxxery and I would like hear something from somebody work in the fashion and that can tell me something more about the fashion in Jamaica.

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MysticF
8/17/2019 12:08 EST

Iriestar68
I think you didn't understand. ‘Word of mouth’ is the best way to make contacts, this happens before you start making a visa process, first you have to find a job and than company makes a visa application.
If you don't have a letter from the company want hire you, u can't apply for a visa MAN!

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Gardis
8/17/2019 12:08 EST

If you have a permanent residence in the USA, then go to the US Virgin Islands which has the same weather as Jamaica, and you can work legally and stay as long as you want.

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Iriestar68
8/17/2019 13:51 EST

No, Mystic it’s YOU who does not understand.

You will NOT find a job in the field you’re looking for. No Jamaican company is going to apply for a visa for a visiting Italian who has dreams of moving here.

Stop trying to explain a process to me that I already know... you’re clueless and naive... trust me when I say, you will not be offered any job here that can be filled by a Jamaican.

Do yourself a favor: read the PICA website, make a trip down here and visit the Waterloo office to speak face to face with someone who tell you the same thing I am, and who will go thru your options with you. Also, make an appointment at the Ministry of Labour (who issues work permits) and ask them the process and qualifications.

You still haven’t answers my question regarding your finances... how are you going to support yourself while your here? You will have to prove that for your extension.

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MysticF
8/17/2019 14:19 EST

Iriestar68
I think you are rude and trust me I have already talked to Pica, embassy etc ... anyway I think you're just the classic jealous woman and with that I don't need to add anything else.

and with LinkedIn I just got 2 connections in the fashion industry, in Kingston . keep real ma'am!

and I give you advice, always believe in dreams!!!!! :)

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Iriestar68
8/17/2019 14:41 EST

Trust me, you have nothing for me to be jealous of. I do believe in dreams and I also believe in being realistic... I suggest you do the same.

This will not end in the way you believe/want it to, but you do boo. I mean you’ve been a tourist on this island for four years and know it all.... good luck; you will need it.

You think I’m rude?!?!?!?! Lololololololololol no, I’m not rude; I’m a Jamaican. Get used to it.

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MysticF
8/17/2019 15:17 EST

no , you rude and Jamaican are not rude, are strong is different!

Also my grandmother s always told me, not go to study fashion, that it is difficult to find work. I got it.

Then again, what do you want to do in the States, you will never take the green card and a Job if you don't marry an American. I got the greencard and jobs in prestigious brands, and I didn't marry an American and I didn't win the lottery!

Sometimes you should believe in dreams and work hard. good luck to you! AND STAY POSITIVE

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Cessj
8/17/2019 17:37 EST

Mystic,
You're being well out of order, rude and you would better to take your white privilege self and stay in America.

People like you give the white people who go to Jamaica a bad name. Check your self. Just listen to yourself.
Telling a Jamacican that they're jealous of you and that they can't get green cards when you know NOTHING about that person.


But just to cirrect you, do you know thatthere are more Jamaicans living in the USA than in Jamaica itself?

So i'd suggest that yiu go and learn more about the place youre planning to move to...and you'd be well srerved to go and learn some manners because if you go talking to any Jamaican the way you've talked on here, you'll find yourself in a heap of trouble that your white skin ain't going to help you.

Jamaicans don't play. You go and stay in the hotels and the staff there might skin their teeth with you but you need to nderstand that people will tret you decent because that's ow Jamaicans are but lso they want to keep their jobs. Yeah, and a lot of the men will want what you can open up, and I mean that in every posible way, but don't kid yourself that it's you they really want.

Please don't asume that everyone wants to go live in the USA, especially at this time.

Do you think any Jamaican can just decide that they want to go live and work in Italy and be told, oh, yes, come right in? No I don'tthink so, especially with Italy known to be very racists and fascists.

Please sis, I answer questions on here but you are the rudest person it has ever been my displeasure to exchange words with on here. .

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Iriestar68
8/17/2019 17:59 EST

It’s ok Cedsj, I’m a dualie, I have both Jamaican and American citizenship, but live here in Jamaica.

I just hope she realizes that once she moves here and makes it her permanent residence, she will be putting her US green card in jeopardy. Oh, well... she’ll learn the hard way. ???????

And yes, she’s way out of order and will learn things quickly or get herself in trouble

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MysticF
8/18/2019 07:56 EST

...and this is where I wanted you !!
I am black woman! If I was born in Italy it does not mean that i'm white for strength.
However there is nothing else to add the last your comments speak for themselves!

however you have judged without knowing the person and I have entered this group just to see if anyone was in my field in Kingston.

Best,

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Iriestar68
8/18/2019 08:57 EST

No one here (on this site or in Jamaica) cares what color you are...the rules, laws and processes apply to all.

You are in for a very rude awakening.

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MysticF
8/18/2019 09:47 EST

oh Lord!!!
read the comments from yor frieds

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8/17/2019 17:37 EST

Mystic,
You're being well out of order, rude and you would better to take your white privilege self and stay in America.
....
Do you think any Jamaican can just decide that they want to go live and work in Italy and be told, oh, yes, come right in? No I don't think so, especially with Italy known to be very racists and fascists. "
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I know many Jamaicans here in the States and in Italy who have prestigious jobs, business activities, lawyers, managers...
...you know ? one one cocoa full basket and DREAM AND WORK HARD

I leave this shameful forum I don't have time for these ignorant things.

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Cessj
8/18/2019 10:02 EST

MysticF, regardless whether your'e black, white or anything in between, whether your'e Italian or American or African, a queen or a pauper, you're a pretty horrible human being...

As the saying goes, the first time somone shows you who they are, you better believe that's who they are.

Ad you've certainly shown us who you are...

Horrible person...

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TC789
1/4/2020 09:04 EST

Wow, this all escalated so quickly!

Guys, you know you don't have to respond to these threads right? It's not a requirement. If you think someone is being stupid and unrealistic, it's ok. It's not your job to call them out.

Sometimes these responses are so negative. It's no wonder the OP feels they have to go on the defensive.

I'm not on this site often but when I do hop on, I find it's the same people being very negative.

Now I understand it can be frustrating when newbies come on with many of the same questions. But that's ok, they are just going through their journey like everyone else did at some point.

I just think it'd be better if we tried to keep these forums light and friendly. There are ways to pass on information that the OP may not want to hear without going on the attack.

Everyone is different and will have different motivations and abilities. Let's at least give them a chance to discover what is possible without beating them over the head with the impossibilities.

Again, no one is required to respond. The old adage is very true, if you don't have anything nice to say, sometimes it's best not to say anything at all.

Mystic, I not really familiar with the fashion industry here in Jamaica and I'm not sure how that would work for you. A friend of mine who recently moved here mentioned something about the Moda Fashion Show. Not really familiar with it but maybe you can check it out of you haven't already and try to make a connection that way. ???????

I'll say this, since moving to Kingston I've found that there are many expats who end up here through many different avenues. Who's to say you can't figure out how to be successful.

It won't be a cake walk. I've had my share of frustrations and I will say that I likely wouldn't have moved back here without already having the means to support myself. Like many of the posters, I've found this to be the best way.

There are opportunities though to accomplish your goals. Maybe you could look into some freelance work with sites like Upwork. A local friend of mine does that for a living and makes around $200k JMD per month. It's not excellent but it's enough for her to live on and she has the freedom to search for other opportunities.

All this to say, yes, moving to Jamaica without any connections is difficult bit it's not impossible. As long as you don't go into this with blinders on and you make the right decisions for yourself, there's no need for anyone to discourage you from trying.

I wish you all the best. If you have specific questions, please feel free to contact me directly.

Happy New Year!

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