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CoogKelly
3/18/2018 01:47 EST

Its your last time returning to Peru because you are staying. You enter with a one way ticket. Has anyone had hassles because you have no return ticket to anywhere else? Anyone had to experience being refused entry? I have heard about the the bus ticket solution. I expect to be tripping to the borders to get stamped out and back in for another tourista visa. Is the visa 90 or 180 days?

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Alpineprince
3/18/2018 13:43 EST

You can only stay in Peru for 180 days a year, calculated from the day you enter. You will need to spend 6 months a year somewhere else.

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joemindwarp
4/21/2018 14:26 EST

Easy way to avoid the airport extortion racket, if your itinerary is on your email just cut and paste an onward flight, best to have it return for 3 months, they will confirm it is an actual flight an not be able to see if you are a passenger, a different airline ticket is also a good idea, I wasn't allowed to board from Lima to Medellin for the same reason, after 2 later flights I was allowed to board the 3rd one, DO NOT BUY A TICKET AT THE GATE!!!

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pistachio
4/23/2018 07:08 EST

Isn't it better to buy a Full Price return ticket which is Fully Refundable....

Then there would never be a problem with any complications of potential fraud.

I think it is reasonable that Entry Protocol wants to know that you have plans to depart and not overstay your visa.

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joemindwarp
4/23/2018 16:17 EST

Better to buy a RT ticket yes, but if you are traveling S America with your last destination is Peru, you easily resend your flight confirmation and paste a new flight, make sure you get a real flight itinerary. off a travel service. the ticket agent just wants to see an onward destination, if not you are trapped into buying a ticket from them, you are literally a hostege

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CharlesLehtinen
7/9/2018 15:09 EST

You can secure a Rentista Visa if you are retired and wish to stay in Peru for a longer time. also, you can secure a a work or professional visa that allows you to stay for long periods of time in Peru. If you leave the country, you have to stay out of the country no more than 6 months to keep your permanent visa intact. Check with the Migraciones Department in Lima on Avenida Espana.

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itstime
7/9/2018 18:45 EST

What are the requirements for "Rentista Visa" for a retiree ?
Thank you

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pistachio
7/9/2018 19:15 EST

PROVE that you have $1000 per month income.....

(the rest is inconsequential)

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itstime
7/9/2018 23:47 EST

What if you are 2 ? Does the amount you need double ($ 2,000.00) or how much is the required for a couple?

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CharlesLehtinen
7/10/2018 15:35 EST

It is 1000 per person and the Immigrations department will accept Government retirement checks adn annuities, IRA's etc that equal 1000 per person.

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CharlesLehtinen
7/10/2018 15:46 EST

A valid passport, proof of income from a federal pension and or annuities/investments that offer additional income. It has to be for each person sumuing up to 1000 per month per person. forms filled out at the Department of Immigrations, Getting it prepared. Plus you have to go to a translation department to get your financial proofs from your embassy, then a specific department that certifes the the documents in spanish once again. Also, there are a few more small steps but it takes about 3 to 5 months to get completed. Come with a good translator to the imigrations (Migraciones) on Avenida Espana in the district of Brena.

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NHLFAN
7/10/2018 17:44 EST

Im surprised its $1000 a month for one and $2000 for 2. The second person should be much cheaper.
Maybe $1000 for 1 and $1600 for 2. Thats more than Colombia.

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CharlesLehtinen
7/10/2018 18:39 EST

The 600 rule applies to dependents in most cases. However, If you have a spouse who is drawing up to 600.00 it can be inclusive and passable. However, it is more difficult because each pary has to fill out the forms separately. Unfortunately, you will need a translator and someone who knows how to complete these documents that become acceptable. Hope that helps you out.

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cccmedia
8/4/2018 20:58 EST

Virtually any country or airline that requires a "round trip" ticket will be satisfied with proof or evidence of onward travel.

The inspirock.com site can intake your plans to generate a professional-looking itinerary. You can then add in prices and date-avails by hand if you like that idea .. to maximize your flexibility and still have something credible to show at the airports.

cccmedia in Lima

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pistachio
8/4/2018 21:43 EST

That doesn't sound so credible to me.

With all the hyper attention to migrations whywould you risk committing fraud to a Federal Customs Agent.

It could get serious and at the least you could get turned away and not permitted entry.

Just buy a full price refundable onward ticket.

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cccmedia
8/5/2018 17:14 EST

Pal, you've got a warped idea of the definition of fraud.

Plans can change .. and proffering an itinerary based on best-known plans is legal, not fraudulent.

You might want to poke your nose into a dictionary once in a while.

cccmedia

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pistachio
8/6/2018 04:51 EST

They want an ongoing valid ticket showing departure, not an itinerary. An Itinerary is not proof. A 'professional looking' itinerary with handwritten times and departures is not a return ticket or proof of a return ticket.


To offer a good looking something is circumventing the rules and gaming the system,

It may or may not pass so you do this at your own peril.

Intentional misrepresentation is what? Your advice could bring a travellers plans to an abrupt halt with potential complications, delays or worse. The advice is dangerous and to offer it in a public forum without acknowledgement of possible consequences is a disservice.

(Should I now expect an additional snarky response?)

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cccmedia
8/30/2018 04:27 EST

Pistachio is the fraud, with his fraudulent scheme/advice to buy a return ticket that won't be used but rather refunded .. in order to fool Migración.

cccmedia

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cccmedia
8/30/2018 04:30 EST

As for his allegation of gaming the system, of course we want to game a system that is obviously warped and gamed against Expats.

Is Pistachio's insistence on buying a return ticket that will be refunded and never used .. anything less than gaming the system? Of course it's gaming the system!

cccmedia

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pistachio
8/30/2018 10:05 EST

.....and, more than I predicted,,, not one but Two snarky remarks.

I will repeat - don't jeopardize your travel plans with a counterfeit document. You do not want the consequences / the best of which is that your plans come to a Halt and you have to rearrange Everything.

A COUNTERFEIT DOCUMENT IS NO DOCUMENT !

Now, more than ever the borders and airports are very tight especially with the inundation of refugee Venezuelans trying to enter Peru.

My suggestion is valid and lawful because you have a Valid Return Ticket and no loss to you because it is adjustable and refundable. In addition you can always buy a more economical ticket and return with still no loss because your original ticket is refundable.

I by no means suggest anyone violating immigration rules and regulations. Especially because you are not in your home country and the consequences could be rough.

Do everything you can to insure that your plans are successful and you have a good and uninterrupted trip.

"".....of course we want to game a system that is obviously warped and gamed against Expats.""

This would be the fools path. You will learn this when the Border Agent is questioning you and requesting your return ticket. It will not be such a comfortable moment. More, following childlike advice that is rebellious and anarchistic is ill advised.

The system in place is reasonable and sensible and certainly neither warped or targeted to harass travelers or expats.

The truth is that Peru welcomes visitors and expats and although it is at times a trial to get through the bureaucracy their arms are open and their attitude is amiable.

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cccmedia
8/31/2018 01:09 EST

Gaming a system is not illegal or anarchistic, except in the mind of Chico Bravo. The system is stacked against Expats by the onward-travel requirement .. if that requirement is enforced by requiring a return or onward-travel ticket purchase.

Chico's "best-case" scenario if questioned at the airport does NOT necessarily mean "rearranging everything". Such a situation could be adjusted by simply buying a refundable plane ticket online on the spot.

Nobody is going to jail or being charged with fraud, and Chico did not present any evidence to back up his concept that this happens. Only his observation or opinion that some borders are tightening.

Of course, you have to get to the airport early enough to have time to handle the logistics in case a return or onward ticket is ever required to board. There are plenty of opportunities to go online at major S.A. airports.

Anecdotal reports online indicate that well-dressed Gringos carrying proof of funds have not been hassled by any putative onward-travel-rule enforcers.

Chico's unfounded accusations on this public forum that I was somehow fomenting anarchy or criminal activity by postulating a best-efforts itinerary instead of a return ticket .. was libelous and defamatory.

I am reporting Chico Bravo to expatexchange's home office, for Abuse .. for that particular post.

cccmedia

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pistachio
8/31/2018 12:26 EST

hahahahaha..............

wao!... a pseudo attorney.............

[ don't quit your day job Snowflake ]

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pistachio
8/31/2018 13:22 EST

Suggest you take a look at this:

https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2015-12-04/why-you-always-need-a-ticket-out-of-peru

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CharlesLehtinen
8/31/2018 14:32 EST

I have stayed in Peru for as much as six months from the date I arrived. Then I got a rentista visa a short time later. Never have I had to show a return ticket. Just my passport, stamped, sealed and good to go! What are they going to do? send you back to the USA right whn you get there? I don't think so!

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CoogKelly
9/2/2018 22:30 EST

Blacks Law dictionary is a reputable source...

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itstime
9/22/2018 13:27 EST

Just read an article backed by International Living that all you needed was $1000 for one person and $500 for each additional dependant. Is that wrong ? Please let me know if anyone knows for sure.
Thank you

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cccmedia
9/25/2018 04:13 EST

Dear Its Time,

You have arrived on the wrong thread.

This thread is about travel tickets, not visa rules.

Kindly visit the many visa-related threads for more information on visas.

cccmedia in Lima

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NHLFAN
9/30/2018 07:02 EST

I will be flying into Lima the end of November and then taking the hop up to Trujillo. I plan to slowly meander up the coast to Manta Ecuador and fly home from there months later. If I have an onward ticket from Manta to Bogota 5 months after my arrival in Lima will I get halsted about an onward ticket showing I am leaving Peru?

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NHLFAN
9/30/2018 07:10 EST

pistachio... I just read your link.. THKS

I have been in Lima several times and didn't remember anyone asking about a return ticket anywhere on arrival.

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wvceltic
9/30/2018 11:09 EST

It has been almost 2 years ago, so this info may be dated, but when I traveled here I had to have round trip tickets too. We were held in the airport, and were not allowed to depart the USA until we had purchased the return ticket.

Just my experience. May have changed since then.

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NHLFAN
10/1/2018 12:53 EST

In the past I always had a RT ticket and was traveling from the US. This time will be flying from Bogota. As of now only have a one way on LATAM.
I will update how it goes in November.

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NHLFAN
11/25/2018 20:48 EST

I left Bogota on a one way ticket from Bogota to Lima last week with no difficulties. No one batted an eye.

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cccmedia
12/17/2018 16:34 EST

An airport agent at Ezeiza international airport in Buenos Aires today gave me some more insight as to the onward-travel requirement of her airline, Aerolineas Argentina.

She asked to see my onward travel ticket beyond Buenos Aires-Lima .. and said the airline would deny me boarding for the Lima flight (scheduled to leave 35 minutes from now) if I could not show onward travel.

I showed her my onward-travel airline confirmation. Then I asked her a few questions. We spoke in English.

She told me that she needed to enter my onward travel data into her 'system' or else I could be denied boarding for Lima.

I asked her if I could show a document demonstrating bus travel to an Argentina border city as alternative proof in such an instance .. and she said that would be fine.

Her point was that she needed to enter some information into her system demonstrating an onward travel plan..

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I will never follow Chico Bravo's hysterical advice to buy a full-fare plane ticket to fool an airline and then get a refund .. unless I know that the airlines have changed their policy and are actually requiring such.

cccmedia at Ezeiza international airport in Buenos Aires

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pistachio
12/17/2018 19:35 EST

"I showed her my onward-travel airline confirmation. "

And what exactly is an *onward-travel airline confirmation*

Is it a ticket?

Is it a reservation?

Is it one of your 'crafted pseudo-documents'?

Exactly what is CONFIRMED?

(I am amazed by your inability to move on. You may have a problem)

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