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tkamockingbird replied to the thread Where To LIve in South America on the Argentina forum on August 16, 2014:
JoeyThompson initially posted:
My family and I are planning to relocate to somewhere in SA. We really like Uruguay because of the quality of food and life, but the jobs there seem to be far and few between. We looked at Ecuador, but the size of our family would require us to maintain over 50K in the bank to stay more than 90 days, which would limit us greatly. Next on our list is Argentina. Can someone tell me a little about what life is like there? What are the best cities to live in for an Expat who needs to work to make a living? I'm an commercial HVAC / Refrigeration technician, so anywhere there are coolers and freezers and/or commercial refrigeration of any kind, I'm good to go, cause there is always work. I covet your thoughts and I thank you in advance. JT
tkamockingbird replied on August 16, 2014 with:
We lived in Salta and still have things going there though we have moved back to the US. Argentina is beautiful and the people are friendly. But personal theft is a pretty major problem but it's not a violent country per se. If you don't speak Spanish you will be GREATLY hindered and frustrated. Inflation is horrible and the business climate is one of the worst in the world; very very non-business friendly because of their mountains of regulations. We have lived in Argentina twice and continue to travel there often. it's a lovely country though and if you can make it there you will enjoy it if you go with eyes wide open and understand you won't be in " Kansas" anymore!
SaintJohn replied on August 15, 2014 with:
Argentina is a really bad choice for the time being. Inflation is close to 40% per year, the country has just defaulted on its debt and nobody knows if the future will be better or worse on the short to medium time horizon. Rental is reasonably cheap, food not expensive, but we are beginning to find empty shelves in supermarkets, and electronics are very expensive (50% luxury tax + VAT). If your Castellano is very good, you should be able to earn around 6-700 US$ a month on a 40 hour week. Starting your own business, as TomP suggests, is a good option, if you have a solid capital and a lot a patience (it may easily take 6-12 months to get a permanent residence visa plus all the permissions).
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TomP replied to the thread 10 Days in Argentina on the Argentina forum on August 13, 2014:
DONSCHALL1 initially posted:
Buenos Aires looks large enough that it could occupy much of my time just to sample it, let alone try to get out into the Pampas. Can you recommend any good city tours? Also, do I need to have an adaptor for my cellphone and laptop rechargers?
TomP replied on August 13, 2014 with:
Yes, you need adapters. 10 days in Buenos Aires is a lot, and beware of the best of the best pickpockets that hand out on subways, and Taxi drivers who give you fake AR 100 peso bills. You may want to factor in one day train, bus or rental car trips to close by cities like La Tigre. I would try and carve out one day for Montevideo, Uruguay. Take a ferry, a few hours, and spend the day. Unless you dislike wine, spend a few days in Mendoza (a 2.5 hour flight) that produces 70% of all Argentine wine and has excellent restaurants.
elhombresinnombre replied on August 13, 2014 with:
A bus tour would be a very good way of quickly getting the flavour of Bunos Aires. Buenos Aires Bus (google it) is the big, yellow, hop-on-hop-off tour run by the city. It would be my choice - if it actually works properly now that it's been improved. The couple of times I have taken visitors we have ended up getting a more formal coach tour from one of the operators who depart from Plaza San Martin and who have ticket offices where Calles Florida and San Martin merge because the "Macri-bus" has been running as a bit of a shambles on that day. Take care near Plaza San Martin: it's not far from Villa 31 and if you don't already know about the villas miserias, you soon will. Alternatively, if you are staying in a hotel, the desk staff will arrange for a tour that will pick you up from the hotel lobby. If your devices use switched mode power supplies and say they will work from 100v-250v then they will work on the Argentine 240v supply with a simple adaptor. Plugs are like those in Australia - two flat blades at 45deg from the vertical - or sometimes two round pins. Check Wikipedia. If in any doubt you will easily be able to buy an adaptor from a street seller or shop.
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Expat ArticlesArticle Summary: Lee offers ten tips for people contemplating a move to Central or South America. (Continue)
biscaynebay replied most recently with:
excellent advice,!
musicman1955 replied recently with:
Thanks, this is great information and it is what other expats have told me as well. Live with the locals! Jim Sault Vermonter
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elhombresinnombre replied to the thread Exiting Argentina with children on the Argentina forum:
leti89 initially posted:
Hello, Any comments or people having experience with leaving Argentina with kids would be appreciated. Both my daughters (ages 12 and 15), flew in from Ecuador to Buenos Aires with their father. No issues entering the country. My husband did not have a formal permission letter from me. I was told by various Argentinian friends that I will not be allowed to take my children out of Argentina even though they are US citizens unless i have a notarized letter of Authorization from my husband. No issue there, my husband will sign authorization. The confusion lies as to what the immigration in Argentina will accept when I leave Argentina with my daughters. I contacted the US embassy and that was a waste of time, they told me to contact immigration in Buenos Aires. On their website they say i have to have notarized consent from my husband. When I contacted various attorney's(notaries in Argentina are lawyers), they would not assist me unless I had apostilled copies of our marriage and birth certificates for out daughter. I do not apostilled copies of our marriage certificate of apostilled copies of my daughter's birth certificate.. I just have copies. I scheduled an appointment with the US embassy for notarial services on Aug 13th. Im just wondering if anyone knows if that will be sufficient to leave. We have been vacationing, my children are US citizens and do not an Argentinian Visa or Residency.
elhombresinnombre replied most recently with:
Argentina is signed up to various treaties about human trafficing and child abduction and is very hot in those areas: that's why Argentine residents have to provide the level of proof you have already described. As far as I am aware, those laws don't extend to visitors on a tourist visa (something your Argentine resident friends would have had no reason to know about because their own experience is about what happens to them) BUT sometimes officials will make up the rules as they go along - especially if something looks out of place and they are afraid they will get into trouble for overlooking it. In my opinion you ought to be able to exit Argentina with the documents you already have but they won't help much if the officer at migraciones is suspicious. In your case, the fact that your children came into the country from Ecuador with one person and are leaving (for the USA?) with another may be enough to alarm them. I suppose that it is impossible for both your husband and yourself to exit together with your children? Whilst you are waiting to have your documents notarised, you might explore other communities of expats on line in Buenos Aires where more young couples with children are present. A Google search on those keywords should bring up some possibilities and you may be able to discuss your concerns with other people who have already been through the same thing.
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TomP replied to the thread English speaking Chefs on the Argentina forum:
ChefmichaelD initially posted:
I am moving to Cordoba in October and am trying to find another chef tere that speaks english. I am learning Spanish, but it takes time. I would like to exchange thoughts on culinary habits there
TomP replied most recently with:
saint.john, I would agree depending on where the food is being consumed; Buenos Aires, Mendoza or ...? I would also add, expect the salads to be iceberg lettuce with grated carrots on top and two cruets, one with vinegar and the other oil as the dressing. Absolutely no imagination. And as far as chicken, it is the breast and often fried like a hockey puck and as dry as toast. Argentina's beef is also an interesting subject, unless you dine at a fancy Buenos Aires restaurant you will likely get an unaged rump steak (lomo). Everyone raves about Argentine beef but several dynamics have evolved over the decades where Argentina has slid form the top two beef exporting countries to I believe #11. To me Argentina just doesn't live up to its reputation for excellent beef. Having lived in Mendoza Province for 5-years with many trips to BA I can tell you most of the major markets do not carry the better cuts of meat; New York strip, filet mignon, prime rib etc. There is an explanation for this, the better cuts are exported and or sold to high end Argentine restaurants like in Buenos Aires. And contrary to what many believe, well over 50% of Argentine beef now spends its last day in ... Feed Lots, not lazily grazing in high grass. Most beef packing houses do not age their beef like in the US thus it is tougher and more participatory, you chew a lot.
TomP replied most recently with:
May I ask, why did you choose Cordoba over other Argentine cities?
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ChefmichaelD posted English speaking Chefs on the Argentina forum:
I am moving to Cordoba in October and am trying to find another chef tere that speaks english. I am learning Spanish, but it takes time. I would like to exchange thoughts on culinary habits there
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kevincor replied to the thread In La Cumbre one more week, Rented house for August on the Argentina forum:
kevincor initially posted:
Hi all, My wife and I have been in La Cumbre for 1+ weeks and will be here for another week. Rented a house for August to December and will be returning with our two youngest boys (13 and 17). Tomorrow we are going to Cuchi Corral - Río Pintos in La Cumbre if anyone cares to come along, we'd love to meet you. I don't know if SMS texting to a US phone from Argentina works but if it does, my phone number is 941-400-3401. Thanks, Kevin and Gail.
kevincor replied most recently with:
Joy, It would be great to hear from you. Pretty amazing how similar your and our situations are. Call me anytime. 941.400.3401 Kevin
JoyMcH replied most recently with:
Hi, my husband, two boys (14&17), and myself will be in Huerta Grande from August-December. I saw your cell# so let me know if it is Ok to call y'all while you are in the States. Joy
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CorinneW replied to the thread Schools in Buenos Aires on the Argentina forum:
CorinneW initially posted:
Which school would you recommend for a German/English bilingual child aged 12?
CorinneW replied most recently with:
When I was living in Swindon, there was a local school where international families from a local army base, learned English incredibly quickly. Kids can be amazing !
TomP replied most recently with:
Wow, that's a tough one. I have many ex-pat friends who either placed their child in a fancy private school where the waiting list is extremely long and maybe a year or two out, or they immersed their client into a public school and had them learn Spanish. pronto.
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Nelmi replied to the thread Relocating to Buenos Aires in October 2014 on the Argentina forum:
Cleo77 initially posted:
Buenos Noches, I am a 21 year old female American who has studied Spanish for six years. I am a business minded individual who has prospects of broadening my horizons, experiencing a new culture, and receiving my degree at an international university, specifically University of Buenos Aires. The highest form of education I have received in the United States is my high school diploma. I attended an American university for one year as a pre-med student, however, I decided to take a year off to travel and get a better idea of what I really want to do with my life. Also, I come from a lower class family, and I have always been very independent. With that being said, I support myself. I do not have help or much capital. I want to get my college degree, but I do not want to be tied down by the post-graduate debt that I will inquire by doing so in America. So, you could say that I am trying to beat the American system. From my research and current understanding, UBA is highly unorganized and also quite competitive. This is no problem. I am a hard working individual, and I excel in classroom/competitive environments. I am quick on my feet. However, my Spanish fluency level may be a concern. I understand the language well, and am able to write, but my speaking skills suck, to say the least. I have not yet had the opportunity to immerse myself into a Spanish speaking culture. By doing so, I am hoping to master speaking and communicating in the language within a three month time period. What I also understand is that there are not very many international students attending Buenos Aires, why is this so? I know that I will need my high school diploma for inscription, this seems to be the only form of documentation that I will need. Should I bring anything else upon arrival? Now for my budget. I will be arriving in BA with about 20,000 US dollars. I do not mind living a frugal lifestyle for the most part, I am used to doing so. I do, however, want to live in a safe part of the city, preferably Palermo, Recoleta or San Telmo. I could afford this easily off of 20,000 for awhile, but that isn't going to last me the five years that I will be living there in order to get my degree. I have bartending skills and a license, but I am aware that it is not easy to get a job there at the moment. I will also have to obtain a working visa in order to work. I WILL need a job while I am living there in order to continue supporting myself. What are your best recommendations on obtaining a job as a bartender while I am there? Preferably at a place where the wealthier people like to go (I love my tips). I also enjoy talking to/meeting new people. I have one friend who lives in Buenos Aires. He has agreed to show me around the city and help me with what he can while I am there. One person isn't a very large network, so I am looking to expend that network. This is where I am at currently and any advice would be appreciated. I have done a lot of research on this move, Argentina, and UBA so this is just a summary. I am all ears for anything anyone may have to say about this plan, and I wouldn't mind talking to anyone who is curious and may have questions. Cleo
Nelmi replied most recently with:
Hi Tattiana, You are not allowed to work on a toruist visa but like Emma says, it is possible. Please be very careful because you are never guaranteed of anything, not even your salary. Like I said, it is possible but you need to be careful. Palermo, San Telmo and La Recoletta are very nice areas but pricey. The best advice I can give you is to visit the University and see what requirements they have. Then go to immigration to find out how you can obtain a student visa. It all takes time. In the mean time you can try to get your CUIL but it all depends on the day and the person helping you. Normally they don't issue a CUIL to foreigners on a tourist visa but you can always try. Kind regards Nelieta
TomP replied most recently with:
Tattiana, Can I ask, do you anticipate working for an Argentine Company or Foreign like from the USA or Europe? The reason I ask if you work for an Argentine Company you will receive Argentine wages which are pretty low and it could really cramp you living style. If you are not working for an Argentine Company then you must figure how you are going to be paid. You certainly do not want to be paid in AR pesos.
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