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Double murder in San Pedro/Ambergris

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richmcintyre53
3/23/2019 13:35 EST

https://www.breakingbelizenews.com/2019/03/22/police-issue-report-on-san-pedro-double-murder/

It was fine, sleepy place back in the 80's/90's. I used to love sitting on the hotel verandah on weekends and watching the classic evening walk. Since then, it has become a crime ridden, heavily US visitor influenced mess. Guns are everywhere. Petty crime is a daily, credit card crime is rampant, strong arm robberies common (and targeting ex-pats), and of course, homicides-almost all of which are never solved..

Belize is now #4 in the global murder rate. There were eight murders in San Pedro/Ambergris in 2017, a big uptick in '18, and off to a roaring start in 2019.

My friend Jack, who has lived there since 1993, has put his restaurant up for sale, citing safety for his family (his daughter moved to the states last year to go to high school) and a totally corrupt police force.

Tourists continue to stream into Belize, blissfully unaware of the potential dangers, their lack of knowledge compounded by hucksters and promoters. International Living, that disgraceful promotional publication, just did a lead story telling people not to miss out on the buying opportunity! It is a buying opportunity made possible by people who made a bad call on buying there, and discovered paradise wasn't quite it was stacked up to be.

If you want to move there, knock yourself out, but do some
reading and investigation first-and not in "Islands" or "Travel and Leisure." They lie-they are paid to lie. Belize is not the paradise it was when I lived in Placencia back in the day.

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JaMaat
3/27/2019 03:30 EST

Wow, thank you for this information. We've visited often but rarely catch this kind of news, even though we have close friends there. How sad for those affected, and the folks traumatized by the crime. Sad.

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bradinbelize
3/28/2019 11:03 EST

From someone that lives in San Pedro full-time and owns a business. This was a murder based on gang and drug violence. While there is crime here, the huge majority of it is gang and drug related, so if one is not involved in that things are pretty safe. With that said, there have been some robberies with killings in the past two years which is very disturbing and things have gotten worse over the last two years. There are these types of crimes in Chicago, Baltimore and other US Cities almost every day and randomly in just about every city in the US - I'm not making excuses for Belize and wish these never happened but simply looking at reality. If you aren't involved in buying or dealing drugs or transporting, etc. and don't go out late at night drunk and partying then chances are you won't be "at the wrong place at the wrong time", just as anywhere in the world.

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triffic
3/28/2019 11:15 EST

what is the benefit of this post

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terrific
3/28/2019 22:47 EST

It gives the same "benefit" as the initial post. It is the view and opinion of a current resident in the area, the initial post was the view and opinion of a past resident of the area.

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triffic
3/29/2019 05:48 EST

how many people live in california
although every knows the Big one is due
if you like a place just be there

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5allan1
3/29/2019 07:03 EST

A few of the recent ex pat murders in San Pedro were of the home invasion variety. This is becoming more popular. Annoying petty theft is ubiquitous. If its not tied or nailed down, its gone. Armed robbery is a risk if you are Chinese. Violent crime resolution is about 70% in the US and under 10% in Belize. So those comparisons are invalid. On AC if your house catches fire or you suffer chest pain you are s.o.l.
One gets tired of the sun and sand marketing

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richmcintyre53
3/29/2019 15:58 EST

"One gets tired of the sun and sand marketing"

This is one of my major issues. I have good friends who remain in Belize, and are fully aware of the risks. I have others who have, or are, bailing for the same reason. I left years ago when the writing was on the wall for anyone who cared to see the truth.

The uninitiated, however, read the rah-rah stuff, promoted by self-serving interests like International Living, Buy Belize, and people who have their heads buried in the sand, and presume it is safe-a great place to raise a family.

The reality is far different. To those who know the facts, and stay-more power to you. It's a gorgeous place, and I completely get it. But to the novice, the first timers, the people who write nonsense like "we've decided to move to Belize in two months and really are looking forward to seeing it," it is way beyond caveat emptor. You are making a life decision, and trust me, it isn't all Howler monkeys and white sand beaches.

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hrlee7804
3/30/2019 09:15 EST

I had been in love with Belize for many years and spent many vacations there always looking for a place to retire when it was time. As the time got closer and I kept reading post on here from Dr. Allen and Bobby Vee I decided to look elsewhere. The next few years was dedicated to Mexico and basically the Yucatan and Q. Roo. After I sold all my US possessions and was ready to drive down to the Yucatan, Chelem specifically, my wife asked me to 'stop' by Sonora and look at this great house in Kino Bay. Some days later I was in San Carlos, Sonora and decided to stay. I called her and she joined me for the house search. House bought and back to the States to get our RP. I am happy for the nay sayers of Belize. It is not what it once was and going down pretty fast. We have been settling in the last few months. Belize is still a wonderful place to vacation but not for us.

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triffic
3/30/2019 11:20 EST

home invasion like so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVTXozlKHKg

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belizelenny
3/30/2019 11:31 EST

You should have checked out Corozal...

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terrific
3/30/2019 18:58 EST

I am one of the stayers who love Belize. I also share those feelings of slight alarm at the posters who say we are moving down having sold all our stuff, when they have not set foot in Belize previously.
If you have any chronic medical condition or are genetically predisposed to cardiac problems Belize is most probably is not for you. Also If you can not imagine living without every convenience and choice you have in the US it will come up short.
If you are in good health and of an adaptable nature then you may find exactly what you want here in some part of this country.
Being in the wrong place at the wrong time anywhere in the world can result in death or injury.
Taking no interest in your neighbours , and being careless with to whom you are giving private information of your self, makes you easier prey to the bad guys of this world.
I do not feel unsafe in Belize.
I am not cavalier in what I say and do in places i do not know.
I do not live in a fortress type home that only rich expats can afford to live in.
I have perimeter fencing but it is to keep out wildlife I would not rely on it to deter someone with ulterior motives I do have a couple of dogs and attractive burglar bars on my home. My house I designed to look like a nice Belize home, not a concrete McMansion. I have friends in both the expat community and the local community,
In fact not dissimilar to the way I live in California, (Without the presence of howler Monkeys)
While where I live in California, in what is considered a nice family area, It has had more murders and home invasions in the last two years within a 10 mile radius of my house, than the total of all murders in Belize in the last two years. Not just Expats,
Funny they do not differentiate between the two in Californian newspapers they just stress if someone, either victim or perpetrator is an Illegal alien.
I do not feel unsafe in my California home either, should I.

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hrlee7804
3/31/2019 10:00 EST

Belizelenny, If you were talking to me about Corozal I spent most of my time in Mayan Seaside, Consejo Shores and Wagners Landing. I still have friends there. I spent some time in Cayo but needed to be by the ocean and no real congregation of expats anywhere there. Placencia was WAY too touristy for us. Corozal was our first choice but it seems like most of our friends favorite pastime was wrapped around Belikin and rum. Here in Sonora, San Carlos has lots of activities. Being in the desert gives lots more options of activities and way less crawly things. For us the desert has more options than the jungle. We love that the landscape is cactus and palm trees. There is a town of 100,000 population 8 miles away and don't have to cross the border to visit. It has a few big box stores that are handy. Hermosillo is 80 miles away and has over 600,000 population. San Carlos is the best kept secret in Mexico IMHO. Yes we know it gets hot in the summer!

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Supercad55
3/31/2019 21:39 EST

Stop bringing up Chicago it's not a dangerous city. It's a big city but it's not close to being anywhere near the most dangerous in the states and definitely not abroad. Chicago is like the go to for brain dead expats who's never been there

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Supercad55
3/31/2019 21:39 EST

Stop bringing up Chicago it's not a dangerous city. It's a big city but it's not close to being anywhere near the most dangerous in the states and definitely not abroad. Chicago is like the go to for brain dead expats who's never been there

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Supercad55
3/31/2019 21:39 EST

Stop bringing up Chicago it's not a dangerous city. It's a big city but it's not close to being anywhere near the most dangerous in the states and definitely not abroad. Chicago is like the go to for brain dead expats who's never been there

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Supercad55
3/31/2019 21:40 EST

Stop bringing up Chicago it's not a dangerous city. It's a big city but it's not close to being anywhere near the most dangerous in the states and definitely not abroad. Chicago is like the go to for brain dead expats who's never been there. Plus you're not in America stop mentioning american cities you left

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