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Jessica11
4/29/2002 20:38 EST

I need some info from any expatriates living in Bangkok.

I was told that life in Bangkok is very difficult for a female expatriate and that she should always be accompanied by someone where ever she goes. Is that true also that foreign women are vulnerable in Bangkok as they are target for crime? Is there any truth to these statements or was it overly exaggerated?

From one hand, I heard great things about getting a place called "Lakeside Villa I and II". On the other hand, I was told however that the security guards and walls encompassing the compound could overwhelm a person and make him feel confined as prisoner???

Can anyone confirm if the above statements are true? Greatly appreciate if someone from Lakeside Villa I or II can provide any input. Many thanks

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Portlandbob
5/1/2002 15:50 EST

I need some info from any expatriates living in Bangkok.

I was told that life in Bangkok is very difficult for a female expatriate and that she should always be accompanied by someone where ever she goes. Is that true also that foreign women are vulnerable in Bangkok as they are target for crime? Is there any truth to these statements or was it overly exaggerated?

From one hand, I heard great things about getting a place called "Lakeside Villa I and II". On the other hand, I was told however that the security guards and walls encompassing the compound could overwhelm a person and make him feel confined as prisoner???

Can anyone confirm if the above statements are true? Greatly appreciate if someone from Lakeside Villa I or II can provide any input. Many thanks



My wife and I have lived in Thailand for 12 years, eight of those in Bangkok where we worked. We are both Americans. She is 5’7”, mid-thirties,with blond hair – so she sticks out among the average Thais. For the entire time we lived in Thailand, she never had a personally threatening situation, and she got around alone a lot on her various jobs, and social meetings. Day or night, the biggest threat to your health is the traffic.
I’d say that those rumors you heard are baseless. Bangkok is very safe for women. The incidents of rape on foreign women is very few (especially considering the naivete of many of the traveler’s). Follow the usual rules of not wearing expensive jewelry, especially gold chains that can be snatched off, it shows you probably have money in your bag which can be snatched off your shoulder, as well, or stealthily slashed while you are in a crowded bus. The best way to carry your bag is Red Cross style, and keep it in front of you when you are in a crowd. We use the Land’s End Soft Attache bag.
Street crime is very rare and it’s unlikely you will be mugged, raped, or robbed– at any time of night or day, in any neighborhood of the city. There are no areas in Bangkok that are regarded as high crime places. Police kiosks are everywhere as well as motorcycle cops.
Lakeside Villa is well out of the city. Many expats live there since it’s close to the International School, and since it is a gated community it certainly has the ambience of a compound. I suggest you live close to what it is you wish to do while in Bangkok. Work? Send kids to school? Socialize? . There is a glut of apartments in Bangkok and you will have no trouble finding one. For more details on street safety, finding an apartment, and health services go to
www.dreambuilderstv.com/bangkok/index.htm
Regards, Robert Hein
Here is the only website I could find on Lakeside Villa
http://www.evehouse.com/vip/rent/details/house/bangna/lakeside_villa1.html

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Caught
5/2/2002 07:45 EST

Hi Jessica,
I've lived in Thailand for 20 years starting in 1972, and completely agree with Bob Hein. The main thing I would want to add is that the foreigners who get in trouble here usually are the ones that ask for trouble, i.e., drugs, trekking in areas known to be unsafe, interfering in the lives of other people whose affairs will not stand rigid scrutiny, or taking unnecessary risks (which encompasses all of the former). Bangkok is very safe, but there are dark alleys that no foreigner should be in unless they live there. The beaten track may not sound very interesting, but if you haven't been on it there are plenty of them to see where you can enjoy life in Thailand. Sure it's very hot most of the time, and sometimes the traffic (but you can beat this problem usually with time planning) and pollution are abominable, but virtually everything else makes up for it. Before coming over here I recommend that you read up on the do's and don't's of life here. If you email me at , I'll send you my list of do's and don't's, but if you prefer, there are a number of books that will aid you in planning for life here. The best thing is to come with a positive attitude, plan to be friendly to all, but not too friendly with anyone until you know them long enough to trust, be aware of scams and ripoffs, so you don't fall into traps, and plan to have fun, because if you can't have fun in Thailand you can't have fun anyplace.
I hope you enjoy yourself when you come here.
Cheers/Caught

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jmdonahoe
5/5/2002 09:51 EST

Jessica:

I am female and spent three years in Bangkok, leaving last year. I think, as the others have stated, that you were grossly misinformed about women's safety. Yes, it's a big city, yes there are dark alleys you shouldn't go down, but in general it's a very safe place. All expat type apartment houses have guards and gates, and I often why!! Of course, maybe that's why the city is so safe - all those deterrants.

Depending on your housing needs, consider very carefully where you will live, or you could spend a good portion of your day stuck in traffic. Sukhumvit Road is a very popular area with expats, but you'd want in certain sections, for example, to be on the odd side so that access to the highways is better. Close access to the Skytrain is a major plus, too.

Life there is quite easy - leaving we know how spoiled we were there!

Jamie

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siampin
5/28/2002 23:28 EST

Jessica:

I have been living here in Thailand with my wife for over eight years now. So far, from what we have heared and experienced, life in Thailand is ok. But of course just like anywahere in the world, be responsible enough not to look for troubles and most of the time troubles will stay away.

I found this site where you might find some answers http://www.siampinoy.com

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getsummary (Datasource=reports, Time=1ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 04:31:27.027
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checklivingfeature (Datasource=expert, Time=5ms, Records=3) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 04:31:27.027
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getsummary (Datasource=reports, Time=0ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 04:31:27.027
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gettaxgeneral2 (Datasource=expert, Time=6ms, Records=2) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 04:31:27.027
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checkrptarticles (Datasource=reports, Time=4ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 04:31:27.027
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         and rptarticlenetworks.networkid = 108 
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getreportarticle (Datasource=reports, Time=0ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/rewritearticlefirsttitle.cfm @ 04:31:27.027
	Select *
	From rptarticles, rptarticlenetworks
	Where rptarticles.rptarticleID = 13
	and rptarticlenetworks.rptarticleID = rptarticles.rptarticleID
getnameforarticle (Datasource=expert, Time=1ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/rewritearticlefirsttitle.cfm @ 04:31:27.027
	Select networkname, forumLink, frmid, networktype, isCity, hot, networkID, usekeywords, metatitle, shortname, shortnamecap
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getrptarticlephotos (Datasource=reports, Time=1ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 04:31:27.027
SELECT  hiimg
FROM rptarticles
where rptarticleID = 13
and hiimg <> ''


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