i have been searching the net and found hundreds of dissaster stories of british women and egyptian men. im going to start posting on this site as i am at the very beginning of a relationship if you can call it that with an egyptian and i want those interested to see how it pans out and would appreciate sensible comments. i am a muslim woman, born in the uk. i have 2 properties, 3 grown up children, 2 good jobs and a very good life. i have been single for 7 years and had given p hope on finding my soul mate about a year ago. im not stupid, im very down to earth and ive been round the block. im very independent as are my daughters and i am very wary of men from any background as i have had a few bad experiences in the past with men living in the uk. ive been on dating sites but have never felt any chemistry with anyone. i have been to egypt 4 times. twice with my daughters and twice on my own. i love the country, i feel at home there, and the locals think im egyptian and imediately speek arabic to me untill i tell them im english, then they dont believe me. lol. i went to sharm in october 2011, not wanting to meet anyone, i am well aware of the fraudsters in sharm, the good looking young men, charming, out to get my money ect. i wanted a rest. but then i met mahmoud who works at the pool. he told me off for not having my pool card. lol the next day i gave him my pool card and later we had a brief chat. he was very serious, like an old head on young shoulders. he is religouse and always went to pray. he asked if i wasnt doing anything later we could go for a coffee. i took his number but didnt call him, i went shopping instead. the next morning i had flowers on my balcony form mahmoud. he said he waited fr my call, i explained i wasnt looking for a man to go out with. we chatted at points throuout the day, although he wasnt allowed to talk to me too much. in the evening i had no plans so thought what the heck, he seems nice, we get along, hes not immature, so i txted him and we met and went out for a coffee by the sea. ok, here we go...WOW ive never felt chemistry like this before. we talked for hours. hes very religious as i am, we spoke about the differences between the life of a woman in egypt and in england. he has his views and i have mine but the discussion was good and he was wrong and knew it. he was to get married a month before and had set up his flat for his new wife. but the marraige didnt happen as he told me he didnt want to marry her, she was only 18 and wanted to go clubbing and he was not interested in such things.but his father wanted him to marry her. the relationship broke down and the marraige was off. she has since married someone else. for the rest of the time i was there, we spent days and evenings going out together. i never gave him any money, he never asked for money. only one time, i offered to take HIM out for dinner, as i wanted to go to an expensive restaraunt id seen. I ended up paying for half of it and he payed the rest. WE NEVER HAD SEX, and he never stayed the night with me. no sex before marraige ect. we grew more attracted to each other, and the chemistry got stonger. I cant belive it but on the last day i cried when i had to leave, i cried on the plane because i felt id found the man ive been looking for. we are in touch every day. he hasnt asked me for anything but to send him a photo of me by email. i am going back in february. mahmoud has asked me if he can take me to meet his family. i said yes as id like to see where he actualy comes from. sometimes i feel like a right idiod, stupid british woman, who thinks this man feels something for her. dont want to make any mistakes. everything i have is for my children and always will be, but i miss him sooo much and have never felt this for any man , not even my childrens father, that wasnt love. i would not leave my children and go to egypt, i have too much to lose. if he askes for anything or anything changes before i go in feb2012 il will post it on here. thankyou, and sorry for an epic email!!! will keep you posted.
It's ok Anna :) I just really like to help.
Well... like you said in the previous post, alarm bells keep ringing! It's because it doesn't make sense.
The question of "Why would a 35 years old, 12 years younger egyptian keeps following me until i am single again to have me?" keeps nagging in your head.
I think, that it's a bit if both. Sometimes people have good mattiages that are still based upon personal interests.
I believe that he thought to himself:"That is a nice lady. I will get married to her to have some of her money, but i will still take care of her."
This is my opinion on this. I believe this is the final big picture.
replied on May 25, 2015 with:
Thanks a lot for your answer, it makes total sense.
I do recognise the dramatic side, it is something I've noticed. It's black or white and there seems very little in between when it comes to emotions. He is much more balanced when it comes to rational things. He is 35 by the way, and it seems that he is making quite clear choices in his life and not willing to compromise on that, and some of his choices seem to go against the Egyptian culture (for as far as I know the Egyptian culture, I find it hard to gauge because it's such a different culture then where I come from)
I have been in a long term relationship with a Scot (I'm Dutch) and I am very much aware of the importance of understanding the others persons culture, not understanding those can cause lots of problems and lead to so many misunderstandings.
When it comes to what he wants with his life, I've asked him that and in fact he wants -compared to my standards- very little; I am very much a go getter, have managed to raise my three boys as a single parent, get my degree and studying for my second one and become financial independent, whereas he is struggling to make ends meet.
Ultimately what he wants is nothing extraordinary but not to have to worry each day and being able to support his parents and over time be able to move to a better location in Cairo. At points I feel that he could set higher goals for himself, but I know he works very hard and do understand it's probably a lot easier in my society to achieve and climb up than it is in Egyptian society. (at least that's my impression)
Anyway, i very much appreciate your response, you seem to have a very clear and objective view on things and I feel I can learn a lot from it, so thanks again :)
replied to the thread Married Liar and Cheat
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Originally met in sharm some years ago then travelled to and from cairo before finally agreeing to move permanent to cairo in 2012.
He and his family appeared genuine and only after he had secured all the money i had from sale of my house and a private pension did things begin to change.
In 2014 not long after he married me he secretly made plans to bring his 17 year old cousin from germany to marry her also only informing me of the truth just 2 weeks before the big luxury wedding that was clearly funded by yours truly. I cannot return to uk now because i have no place to live and it is unlikely i will find work because of my age. Even after he took millions of egyptian pounds off me he is still demanding more. I feel completely shattered and my health is beginning to be affected. He has been physically and emotionally abusive to me and thinks this is normal. I have contacted my embassy but all they could give me was list of lawyers which clearly i do not have the money to go to.
Can't you relocate to somewhere cheaper in the UK so that your pension would cover the rent?
replied on May 22, 2015 with:
O TERRIBLE TO READ you have to leave , one way or another. In UK somebody will give you a place to stay. you have to !!!! LEAVE !!!
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I saw these buildings on googlemaps but I don't know what they are for. They look almost space age.
Believe it or not, this looks very much like a military site. Probably a radar base with AA guns all around.
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