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colas11
5/8/2019 11:43 EST

Hi,
I'm planning to move to Bulgaria for a 6 months stay (photo report).
What are the administrative formalities for a long stay (more than 3 months) in Bulgaria as a EU citizen (French)?
I'm struggling to find the right answer: do I need to register or ask for a type D VISA?
Thanks

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Joshuak
5/8/2019 19:38 EST

AS EU citizen you have freedom of movement in all EU States so you should not have to do anything to stay as long as you wish. There may be administrative requirements if you decide to work and receive medical care. You should have a EU medical card that can be used during emergencies when traveling in any EU country. If you do not have one, ask for one from your French government.

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colas11
5/9/2019 05:30 EST

Thanks Joshuak for your answer.

Indeed I'll need a medical insurance for traveling in Europe

But I also read that a registration is needed to stay more than 3 months in Bulgaria (and other countries like Romania, Serbia by the way) even for EU citizen.
And proving self sufficiency or income + proof of a Bulgarian address...

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Joshuak
5/10/2019 19:50 EST

Of course I am not absolutely positive, but if you do not have intentions to work or be involved in social programs in Bulgaria I see no need to do anything. You as a EU Citizen are supposed to have "Freedom of movement" in any EU country. Romania should be the same way, but Serbia would be different as they are not in the EU last I knew. I have been in both Romania and Bulgaria, but mostly in Romania for more than 3 months. No one asked me anything about registering. In fact I distinctly remember when entering and leaving they just looked at my Irish passport, looked at my face, and I guess I looked enough like the picture to pass. They never even scanned my passport. And of course there is no stamp in my passport from the time I entered so how would they know how long I have been there. I looked at both my old Irish passport and the new one renewed in 2017, and the only stamps in them are from Morocco, Serbia and Moldova which are not in the EU. No EU country I have entered in the past 10 years has stamped or scanned my passports and I have been in or transited many in that time. No one even asked me how long I was going to stay, and never asked me about money or health insurance. Do you think maybe they trust the Irish more than the French ?? Just joking ...........

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colas11
5/13/2019 03:38 EST

Thanks for your interesting experience travelling across Eastern Europe. It shows that the freedom of movement of any EU citizen is not just theoretical, it's also a reality.

"Do you think maybe they trust the Irish more than the French ?? " Yes certainly. Because as you know, the French are such eejits!...

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HalDavies
5/13/2019 11:24 EST

Hi,
I have been coming to our house in BG over the last 8 years. If you, even as an EU citizen, stay for over 3 months (90 days), then I believe you need a Residency Permit, a Lichna Carta.
You need ID, a Bulgarian bank account with, in Smolyan, 3000 euros in it, an address here and proof of health care cover.
Simple really.
Bon chance, Hal.

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Joshuak
5/13/2019 20:03 EST

I still say it depends on what you are doing while you are in BG. If you do not depend in any way on the Government of Bulgaria or earn any money by working in BG, or buy any car or property in BG, and are only there for entertainment, rest or holiday, you should have to register. I think there is a potential problem if you apply for residency just to be able to temporarily stay for 6 months. Yes, there is a requirement for non - EU people to register, and they might also "like" you, a EU citizen to report staying over 90 days, but I do not believe you need to go through the residency permit application Bureaucratic process just to stay over 90 days. As I said before, when a EU citizen arrives at any EU country, they do not scan or stamp your passport so how would they know how long you have been there. Every time I crossed the border into Bulgaria has been by road from Romania and the border guard just looked at the passport and handed it back to me. If you get the EU Health Insurance card you are covered in any EU country. In the many years I have travelled in many EU countries no one has ever asked me how long I was going to stay, nor asked me if I had enough money to support myself, nor if I had health insurance. Never !

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tay709
5/14/2019 02:01 EST

I have my bulgarian residency card and dont you believe for one minute that they do not know you are there, I drove back to the UK yesterday for a few days and at the Bridge crossing into romania i had my passport scanned / swiped by Bulgarian Border police and romanian then again by Romanian police and Hungarian,
The information contained on your passport data strip is really concerning that they all have on screen once they swipe your passport so they know when and where you entered the country, they know every place you have every visited and when every hospital visit address family memebers work history, criminal record data etc etc, it's astounding what personal information they have access too from your passport data

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Joshuak
5/15/2019 20:35 EST

Yes, if they scan your passport they would know. But why did they never scan mine ? We were in a small van with Romanian registration and the driver had Romanian Passport and I had Irish passport. We stopped at Romanian control, they came to the car window, looked at both passports and hand them back. Then just beyond was Bulgarian control. They do the exact same thing. No one scanned or stamped our passports. They did not even ask where we were going. This was the same every time we crossed. It was on The E87 Crossing at Vama Veche. One time we had a Russian national with us and they just looked at the EU passports at the open car window and gave them back. But they took the Russian passport inside I suppose to scan it. It did have a Schengen Visa which both Romania and Bulgaria accept so when they brought that one back we went on our way. None of us had to get out of the car. They might have a video of the motor vehicle plate so the Drivers ID could have been recorded, but not mine. I never flew into Bulgaria but when I did into Bucharest (many times) they never scanned my passport either in or out. Just look at it and hand it back to me. I was in Romania from February until June one year and to my knowledge no one came looking for me. Nor did they say anything when I flew out in June to Budapest. This past February 2018 I flew into Paris CDG from Orlando Florida and they did not scan my Irish Passport when we arrived. They did scan my wife's as she only has US passport. I went through the EU only line.

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Jolicoeur
5/24/2019 16:03 EST

If I understand correctly, we, EU citizens, don't need passport and we can enter BG with a simple ID card without any biometric chip in it.

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Joshuak
5/25/2019 12:15 EST

I don't think that is true. I believe you need at the very least a EU passport card or the regular passport. If the officer at passport control decides he needs to scan it, then a simple ID card of some sort would not be able to be scanned. I am only saying, I, in many trips around the EU did not have my passport scanned to my knowledge. When entering or leaving Bulgaria, which was by road, the officer was standing outside their building by the side of the road and our vehicle pulled up to him with window rolled down. We handed the passports, He looked at them, and handed them back and said nothing. Neither one of us had a passport card, just the regular passport.

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Mogilamo
5/25/2019 14:38 EST

What a lot of rubbish ,have you even been to beautifull Bulgari,
Obviously not , i have never heard so much poop spouted in my life.
Please do not comment on things you know nothing about.
For Gods sake. ??????

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Joshuak
5/30/2019 20:43 EST

Oh yes I have been to Bulgaria, many times and probably know more about the rules than you do. That is sometimes the problem, people like you rely on rumors and "I think so" mentality. Facts matter.

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billyboy62bg
8/25/2019 16:17 EST

yep you need residency card for longer tham 3 mth stay its easy I got 5 yr card issued in 5 days if you have all nessasary documents

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tay709
8/26/2019 02:19 EST

Getting the residency card is a real faff i have re-newed mine in the last 2 months after having property in Bulgaria for over 15 years... and its getteing worse each time i do this...
if you have an EHIC the residency will only run untill this expires, you need proof of property owned passpoet and proof that you have at least 1000lv in a bank acoount hat must be signed and stamped on the day you take it to the CAT office for your card, which has to be paid for in another place and the payment taken back to the original office before they will move it any further forward (its a real nightmare and you really need someone who knows what and where to go) the first card i got took 7 days this more recent took 30 days although they had all the information on file for years now you still need to resubmit everytime, they will scan and record in electronic format and long hand in a little book with photocopies ??? lucky its not Romania ! ! !
All official processes in Bulgaria will drive you insane, some things you need to do are so unnecessary but you have to suck it up..

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Fredonia
8/28/2019 02:05 EST

EU citizens don't need a visa to stay up to 90 days, but after that they need to apply for a residence permit. Don't ask me why they are not like the rest of the EU, perhaps it a special agreement, but nonetheless there it is.

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Joshuak
9/4/2019 21:40 EST

It is true in most EU states that if a EU citizen travels to any other EU country, they have freedom of travel. But after 90 days if that citizen wishes to remain long term in most EU countries, and have a need of government licenses or anything to do with the government such as working or getting social welfare, Etc, they would have to register.
In my travels I spent 5 months in Romania, and Romanian Government never said anything to me about registering. For one thing they never scanned my Irish passport when I arrived, and never scanned passport when I left. How would they know how long I was there ? They just look at passport, fold it up and hand it back to me. Same thing happened when I made day trips into Bulgaria by car. I have had Irish passports for over 30 years and there is not one stamp from EU counties in any of them. Yes, there is stamps from Latvia and Lithuania in one of my old passports when I travelled there years ago just before they joined EU. Maybe Bulgaria is thinking about longer term stays than just another EU citizen touring for 4 or 5 months. I would certainly try to stay away from the formal registration if possible if someone is only staying less than 6 months with EU passport.

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Explorer88
9/7/2019 22:32 EST

more misinformation spouted by people claiming to be "experts"

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Topdog72
9/8/2019 01:37 EST

So what's the right information??

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coollaw3
11/6/2019 08:10 EST

Per consular officer from the Bulgarian Consulate in Chicago you need to register after 3 months stay in Bulgaria. Nothing known pertinent to the enforcement.

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coollaw3
11/13/2019 09:29 EST

Read below:)

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