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8/29/2011 22:22    
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Anybody got the latest scoop on importing my car with a retirement visa? What make, year, etc. taxes if any, approximate shipping costs from US?

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8/31/2011 20:56    
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mariapio, importing your car to Ecuador is complicated, risky and usually, not cost effective. There are certain exceptions to this general rule, but it's difficult to make sure those exceptions will be recognized at the dock.. Call the Ecuadorian Embassy (Consolar Services) starting with the office located closest to where you live (or the Consolute that would be responsible for providing you with a Visa). Ask for specific, detailed information until all your questions are clearly answered. If you are unsuccessful at first, try calling other Consulates that are listed on Embassy of Ecuador's web page, until you find someone that is willing to help you and commit to the information they provide to you. Make sure to mention that the information on their home page appears to be outdated and that's why you need additional help.
As you can see by the overwhelming response from other Forum Members, importing Cars to Ecuador isn't the easiest thing to do and many of them would probably suggest that you try a different route..Unless you are importing a specialty vehicle. Rather than believe some of the advertisements on the Internet about allowing cars to be imported without fees, tax free, if it is under 4 years old, in a crate (and so on) it's best to get it from the horse's mouth and then have some way of verifying that this special horse, did indeed, speak to you. Actually, mariapio, I'm interested in this information as well, so I'll do some research of my own.

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8/31/2011 22:51    
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mariapio, you can get your feet wet by researching "Importing Household Goods To Ecuador Free of Duty For Permanent Residents" , using your search engine. It will take you to an Expat Blog that seems complete and it will give you an idea of how complicated (and costly) the process can become.

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9/1/2011 09:32    
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Thanks everyone for your careful replies. It seems the concensus is definitely that importing a tax free vehicle on a retirement visa is not an option yet, although it may be in the future. Back to my old Vitara...

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9/8/2011 05:51    
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To import a car, it must be new, (less than one year old) and be shipped in a 40' container with no other goods. Retirees (65+) do get to import most things duty free, but I doubt if cars are included. I have a 2011 Toyota Prius and the duty would be about $15,000 plus the shipping.

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9/8/2011 05:52    
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To import a car, it must be new, (less than one year old) and be shipped in a 40' container with no other goods. Retirees (65+) do get to import most things duty free, but I doubt if cars are included. I have a 2011 Toyota Prius and the duty would be about $15,000 plus the shipping which is determined by weight and distance. Call shippers to get quote, but you have to know the weight of the vehicle

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9/8/2011 09:23    
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Luckydawg, on the aduana webpage it almost sounds like you could import a car within six months of obtaining a residence visa, duty free. I called an Ec embassy in the states and they said no. I contacted one of the relocation services in Ec and they said no. But the web site indicates yes so I'll make one final call to the aduana directly, today, just for piece of mind.

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9/8/2011 12:30    
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Aduana Del Ecuador is not a government agency and what they publish is not necessarily true. Ecuadorian Customs has the last word and I would believe the Ecuadorian Counsel's office in Miami.

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9/8/2011 12:57    
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Aduana Del Ecuador is not a government agency and has no control over customs. According to the Ecuadorian Counsalate website. a car must be of the current year. The following is from their website

According to the Official Registry No. 157 of Thursday 28 of August of 2003 by means of Resolution No. 203 of the COMEXI indicate that the following text is eliminated in Resolution 184 of the COMEXI in its literal a): "to previous the immediate year", this means that the year model of the vehicle must be of the present year or following year to the present year.
The website goes on to state that the Ad Valorem taxes are 35% of the value and Ecuadorian Customs determines the value.

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9/8/2011 13:15    
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Thanks for saving me the time Luckydawg. It's funny, but that's who the Embassy told me to call to double check (Aduana del Ecuador) and the person in the Emabassy (Washington Embassy) gave me the website. Gee. We were even speaking English the entire time..I was researching it for a friend so this will be a bit disappointing. But, deep in my heart of hearts, I knew it was too good to be true.

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9/8/2011 16:03    
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Buy, download and read the book I suggested.

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9/8/2011 18:07    
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Well, three strikes you're out. Left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing and the direct call to Aduana Del Ecuador was made. Customs agreed. No. No. No. They've been getting a lot of calls because of rumors that there was a change (and, an impending change) But for now. No. No. No.

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9/14/2011 11:19    
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luckydawg, I was going to let this go but...I thought of other people who would be reading this site looking for answers. They depend on what's being posted as being somewhat accurate. So as a correction... Aduana Del Ecuador IS customs and that's why the Consulate in DC recommended to double check regulations with this department. Aduana Del Ecuador is definately a good source of current information as well as the Ecuadorian Consulates.
As far as the book you've been recomending to me (3 times now?), I've been in and around Ecuador since 94. I love receiving and sharing new "tidbits" of information which is why consider this forum critical reading. The Forum Members post updated, practical, inside, and often insightful information here.
The book, "Living and Retiring in Cuenca, 101, is probably very helpful for those who are moving to the country or are new to the country, and specifically to Cuenca, after all, the author herselv moved here in 2010 and has probably gathered some good stuff to share with other expats who are new to the area. I love visiting Cuenca and I think it's an amazing city, but I have no desire to live in Cuenca (climate and personal taste). But thanks for the suggestion.

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9/14/2011 16:04    
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Honestly, Luckydawg has posted so much wrong information on this board, it is not even funny.
Additionally, he sounds like a broken record.

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9/15/2011 06:40    
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So, you're not just another newbie, but an old fart like me. I am in the process of some due diligence trying to decide whether I want to relocate to Chile, Costa Rica or Ecuador. At this time Ecuador is winning the raffle. I was planning in bringing my car, a 2011 Prius and from what I have been told by an English speaking lawyer in Quito, the car must be less than one year old or the current model year. She also told me that Customs determines the value not the American Bluebook everyone quotes from. The additional cost of an entire container just for the car, put the nail in the coffin on that idea. If you were told by Aduana Del Ecuador anything different, i would get it in writing, or at least a copy of the current regulation--because they change without any warning.

I traveled the world for 25 years working for an oil field service company, mostly in 3rd world countries except for Brazil which is half and half. I've been in Ecuador 4 times, but just as a visitor on business. What I learned is that in most countries like Ecuador, government workers are overworked and underpaid and a little incentive often speeds things along. If someone tells you to come back in a week to get some paper or a decision, ask if there is a way to speed things up. A quiet fiver will often get you to the front of the line. Absolutely the worst country in that regard is Greece, graft and the outstretched palm is a way of life. You have pay to even get a doctor's appointment.

Ecuador has the lowest per capita income of all central and/or south American countries, so every little bit helps. In 2008, it was less than $4,000. That's the official income, but I would guess there is a lot of bartering, because nobody can live on that.

Learning the language also helps. Obviously, as a gringo, you cannot pass yourself off as a local but learning Spanish will go a long way. After all it's their country and they have no incentive to learn English.

Where do you live and why? I plan on a lengthy trip to all three countries early in 2012, maybe we can break bread.

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Luckydawg... has two outstanding warrants and he knows what they are.. Allot of you have emailed me and said he is very annoying and sending all of you private messages that makes no sense.. I have sat back and watched all of this from the side lines.. All I have to say is: He is doing this for a reason. He thinks everyone is after him.. He is very paranoid which is normal when you have two outstanding bench warrants. Sometimes you can give a rope to someone and they end up hanging themselves. Ignore his remarks new comers and believe only 20% percent of what you read ...

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9/15/2011 14:10    
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LuckyDawg, both the Consulate and Aduana del Ecuador have verified the same regulations for importing cars, which like you, has ended any hopes of my friend bringing a car down.

You said, "You're not a newbie....but an old fart like me"...Here's the thing... old is relative until you're like 80, so I assume you're talking about "old" as in you've-been-around-old, which, is also sort of relative. However, I'm pretty sure I'm not a "fart". Not yet anyway.

To answer your question, I live on the coast of Ecuador, which I love, and I'm here because it's my home. I'm not sure why you're considering a move to Ecuador because you've stated in other posts that you consider Ecuador to be just another unstable "Banana Republic" that is going to implode, that real estate values are going to plunge and finally, that you do not like the way things are headed politically...

Costa Rica, which has grown to be so much like the States, and which has a government that more or less meets your approval, seems a much better choice for you.

Another side point about Ecuador. It may seem impossible to imagine, but there are a vast number of Ecuadorians who live on 4,0000 a year, especially in rural areas. It's certainly a situation that needs to improve but with almost free health benefits, low cost or fixed pricing for baic commodities (food, gas, petroleum) dicounts on utilities, an extensive inexpensive transportation system, and close family support, it's a managable way of life. No yard sales full of unwanted junk though, that's for sure..

Breaking bread...let's see...you're driving Chickadee4ever crazy with your posts that are, shall we say, less than "on the money", You made Silverwater and Crowdpub cringe when you posted that there was free medical services for retired folks, because as they've witnessed first hand, this avenue should be strictly avoided if at all possible. You offended ElvisNYC, HGQ2112 and Oceanhideaway by downing Correa and condemning the future of Ecuador as well as expat real estate and expat businesses in Ecuador, and last but not least, you irritated divehavn because he downloaded a book that didn't anser his question. And then there's me.. I don't consider Ecuador to be "just a Banana Republic" sooooo, you've really started out on the wrong foot. If you manage to make amends with Chickadde4ever and she agrees to break bread with you, then I'll consider it.

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9/15/2011 14:49    
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Many of the folks Ive worked with while volunteering do indeed live on $4,000 a month or less a year. Heres how.
They live in cane houses. Cost:$200 (usually need replacement every five years.)
Food: Very simple diets. For example-Breakfast:one egg, one roll:22cents
Lunch:Soup with a small amount of chicken, carrots, potato, rice, some spices: $1:00
Dinner: Small piece of chicken or beef, rice, menestra:$1:50
Cost of juice, water, etc:$1.00

Total food cost per person, per day, under $4

Bus transportation is 25 cents per ride
it is possible to find cheap (although not great quality) clothing.
So it is totally possible to live on less than $4,000 per year.

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9/15/2011 16:01    
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You tell him!! Now tell me; what is the medical situation for retirees in Ecuador. We are making our plans and sure need to have all the real/truthful information. Best place to get it? From those of you living there and using it.
Love the information and all the givers.
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9/15/2011 17:47    
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grandmamaof2, try searching Health Care and Insurance in the "search" of this Ecuador Forum and will find a couple of threads. Also, under Medical Care, Silverwater has a helpful link to Doctors who speak English and some clinics. There are private clinics in Ecuador that offer their own healthcare programs and insurance for as well.

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9/18/2011 12:10    
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silverwater
Right on the money
Even a gringo could perhaps live on $4000 a year but probably would not live in a cane house,although I know one gringo couple who did live in a cane house,mosquito net over the bed and loved it.
A pineapple is only 35 cents and its easy to grow fruit trees and fish is only a $1.00 a pound
pina ninja pastries, a splurge, only a quarter...delicious
HOWEVER I am referring to small town , coast only NOT the mountain regions
NO A/C or HEAT needed ( which has been a huge expenditure ,for the stranded in the USA )
flip flops and light clothes in EC
SIMPLE LIVING.... LOSE your gringo waste and consume addiction lifestyle and a change of attitude......attitude of gratitude and ENJOY
STOP keeping up with the Jones and help out in the community or read books ...learn the language or just walk and walk and walk ,everywhere and take in the perfect climate....... its all good

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9/18/2011 12:15    
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mariapio,
Luckydawg may find that his 2011 dashing prius takes a beating in EC
SPEED BUMP ATTRITION
MAY WANT TO RECONSIDER
Patio tuerca is an interesting site ...gives you an idea of the EC auto situation
Most gringos opt for
HIGH OFF THE GROUND
DRIVERS
OR BUSES

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9/19/2011 07:31    
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Yes, my new Prius would not be at home with the Ecuadorian road system, so I'll have to sell it. Although they sell them all over the world, it's not for an off-the-road vehicle. The estimate to take it to Ecuador would be about $25000, which includes shipping and import duty, so that's not a option.

Somewhere I read an piece of information on buying used cars that might be useful. If you buy a used car in Ecuador, which is highly recommended and what I will do, don't get a car that has spent its life near the ocean because of the corrosive effects of salt air. The license plate on any used car will tell you where it came from. Ecuadorians are almost obsessive about taking car of their cars and cars from Quito, cuenca or any higher elevation spot, can be 10 years old and look brand new. I am looking seriously at a used Peugeot 206HDI, which is diesel powered and has one of the best diesel engines in the world. BMW even buys diesel engines from Peugeot. Or I may bit the bullet and buy a 4x4, they seem to be popular.

I would not purchase a used car from a private party, because of the paperwork, a dealer will take care of everything. The only exception would be from an Ecuadorian who loves his car and also is a mechanic. Sometimes they will even take care of it after the sale, but you probably need a notary or lawyer to handle the paperwork.

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9/19/2011 09:27    
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Having just bought a car myself, I don't understand why you would need a lawyer. You do need a notary to certify the contract, but this is a $20 item.

I would suggest that if you don't speak Spanish, you start getting friendly with the eager to help, especially kind people here who can walk you through this simple process.

As long as you have the "matricula" and the "SOAT" (government regulated insurance for the uninsured, about $25/yr) you are legal to drive even if it's not in your name. Of course, you will want to get your own private insurance for all else, and for that you will need your "censo" and a copy of your passport and visa. Take it down to your local government, with the other forementioned documents and register it.

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I'm happy to see your suggestion about knowing Spanish. I am totally mystified why North Americans, which includes Canadians, move to Ecuador and expect the locals to speak English. That is just plain arrogance and/or ignorance or both. We are guests in their country and should never forget it. I bought a Spanish language program from Fluenz and I'm about halfway through it. It helps that I live in Florida, so I get a chance to use it often. Many years ago, my wife went to France and took an intensive two week course in French where they only spoke French. She never really used it though and after a few years, about all she could do was order a meal in a French restaurant.

I also read somewhere that to get a driver's license in Ecuador, among the things you must produce is a high school graduation certificate. Do you know anything about that rumor? That would be a problem for me. I have two masters degrees but never completed high school.

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9/20/2011 00:42    
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Hey luckydawg, you are putting out totally bogus info out here. Check your facts first.
1) Only returning Ecuadorians can import a car duty free. Foreigners on Immigrant Visas cannot.
2) The vehicle can be up to three years old (not counting the current year) does not have to be new or less than one year old as you say.
3) The Aduanas del Ecuador is very much an Ecuadorian Government Agency. I don' t know where you get that it is not.
4) The car does not have to be in a 40 ft container. It can be in a 20 ft container, and other household goods can be in it as long as they are listed and legalized at the EC consulate.

Man where DO YOU get all this bogus stuff from? Do you just make it up as you go?
Please be more careful and responsible with what you out out there, as you can cause unnecessary problems to people.

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This is a document from the Ecuadoran Embassy website in Washington

Importing a vehicle

Requisites for importing a vehicle

According to the Official Registry No. 157 of Thursday 28 of August of 2003 by means of Resolution No. 203 of the COMEXI indicate that the following text is eliminated in Resolution 184 of the COMEXI in its literal a): "to previous the immediate year", this means that the year model of the vehicle must be of the present year or following year to the present year.
To make the verification in origin with one of the checkers
To obtain the Certificate of Quality of the INEN.
To obtain the Good Sight in a bank correspondent of the Central bank of Ecuador.
To make the proceeding of nationalization with a customs agent.
The applicable taxes for their vehicle would be as long as it fulfills the requirements before mentioned:

ADVALOREM 35.0 %
FODINFA 0.5%
IVA 12.0 %
HOISTS 5.15%
Further more the vehicles intended to be imported must appear in a list of vehicles that the Ministry of Finance of Ecuador issues every year. For further information please contact the Ecuadorian Central Bank.

Banco Central del Ecuador
Avenida 10 de Agosto y Briceño
Quito, Ecuador
Teléfonos: (02) 583-054 / 583077 / 592562

What this says I believe is that you could import a 2010 model year car in 2011 but not beyond. All of the information I have posted comes from documents like this or from forum from other expats. As far as a shipping container, I have read on two occasions that it must in a container by itself, either 40' or 20'. I have read nothing that counteracts that. If you have some information to the contrary, I would like to see in in writing. I am planning a move to Ecuador in 2012 and I am preparing for that. I am not making things up as I go along. I never wrote that foreigner could import a car duty free. Someone supposed that a senior citizen could, but I wrote that it not correct.

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If you believe what Ecuadorian websites tell you, man you are in for a surprise and a rude awakening. Many of them are woefully outdated and give out the wrong information. They don't bother to keep it up to date. They are notorious for that. Heck even the bureaucrats from different agencies here often don't have a clue which is the latest regulation to enforce and get into arguments among themselves, while one is standing in the middle of a power struggle trying to sort things out.

All I can tell you is the we, as returning Ecuadorians through SENAMI, just (August 2011) brought our used Toyota RAV 4, year 2009, duty free in a 20 foot container (not in a 40 ft as you said). the 20 foot container with the car had additional stuff and boxes in it, both inside the car and outside the car. It was all declared and there were no problems with that.
All this directly contradicts what you are putting out.

The car has to be:
1) not more than 3 years old. Not counting the current year). So, for instance, in 2011 we could bring in a car as old as 2007 if we wanted to.
2) Engine not larger than 3000cc
3) The ExWorks value of the car cannot be over $20K.
5) You may not sell the car for 5 years after bringing it in

Incidentally, we also brought in duty free on the same ship, a second 40 ft container with our household belongings.

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9/20/2011 09:35    
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I believe the operative phrase, in this discussion is "returning Ecuadorians". As such you have importing rights not granted to others.

Having lived in 6 countries plus the US and having imported and exported many thousands of dollars of personal belongings as well as pets, I can say with absolute certainty, that most of the time, government agencie's staff could not find their behinds with both hands in a lighted room. I have even been arrested and deported because my paperwork in Dubai was "not in order". When they found their mistake, they apologized but did not offer to pay for my second plane ticket. In fact I believe Gary Scott has had a similar experience. I always try to have copies of regulations and/or letters from government agencies or consulate to show any official who questions me.

What follows is from the Aduana Del Ecuador website, which should put this issue to bed. I am not "putting anything out", to use your words except quoting what two Ecuadorian government agencies posted. If you have a problem with that, take it up with them. Maybe you can convince them they are wrong

General

According to the Official Registry No. 157 of Thursday, August 28, 2003 by Resolution No. 203 of COMEXI indicates that you delete in the COMEXI Resolution 184 , letter a) the following: " to the previous year ", this means that Vehicle model year must be the current year or the year following the current year.

Requsitos

Get the Quality Certificate INEN.
Getting the nod in a correspondent bank of the Central Bank of Ecuador.
Perform verification of origin verification.
Get Insurance Policy National Transportation (mandatory).
Make the process of nationalization with a customs broker.

As I understand it, the date of manufacture, which is listed on door opening is what customs uses, but then I don't know how much of this applies to you as a returning Ecuadorian. I suspect you are exempt from that regulation, which doesn't apply to most of us.

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Luckydawg... Please stop posting crap.. If your not Ecuadorian like my wife you can not bring a car. Plain & Simple. We brought our vehicle and they had to put into some Quarantine container for 72 hours after they got it off the ship. Then we had to pay the supervisor under the table because they said it did not pass inspection. Then I had to slip another bill to the one arm supervisor to speed things up. Then I hired a decoy to throw them off because the animals outside the gate got wind that a Gringo has Grade A goods to steal. Then I hired his crew to escort me out of the port city and back to Quito. Now ask me if it was worth it... Hell Ya I would do it all over again. I kiss my California King Orthopedic Mattress every night.. I love my Love seats and couches from Naples, my wife has all her Bed Bath & Beyond stuff. If your Ex Military like me do it if your not use to the Hurry Up and Wait process then don't do it. Luckdawg you should be trying to concentrate on clearing your two outstanding Bench Warrants you have so you can pass your criminal back ground check. Quit trying to confuse the newcomers thinking about moving here. If you don't know about something thats okay Look Listen & Learn... Like everyone else...

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Thank you. I did not realize that Lucky?Dog was not living in Ecuador. How can he give we, wantabe's information that we need. We have NO criminal records at all, have more than required $$$ Have two teenage kids, Have 70 years + under our belts. Trying to choose where to spend our visit (to choose area to live) we will only have 2 to 3 weeks to choose an area. Now, will anyone give us information on the areas you live in, temps, safety, mountains, altitude, valleys? We want to grow some garden. We want to live in PEACE ( this forum is not too encourageing) with locals and expats alike. No experience with the greasing palms so it seems that is an art and a necessity. We know no one that has ever left the US to live. Educated and retired, homeschooling good kids.
Anything To Share?
We are "listening"

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9/21/2011 10:49    
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Hey luckydawg: I just read what you posted above a few days ago:
" Aduana Del Ecuador is not a government agency and has no control over customs."
WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Again, WHERE ON EARTH DO YOU GET YOUR BOGUS INFO FROM? Are you doing this on purpose and getting a kick out of posting ignorant and naive misinformation? You should make an effort to learn better spanish while you are still back in the US...let me clarify this to you: ADUANA del Ecuador is the same thing as the Ecuadorian Customs, One is in Spanish language and the other is in the English language, that's all. They are one and the same GOVERNMENT agency.
Geez !...

Moreover, the EC consulates are often completely ignorant as well of the Ec Customs regs & requirements, and their websites are useless because they are outdated and they don't update them. Nobody should rely completely on what the EC consulates say regarding importation of their household belongings..
Double and triple check with a reliable & experienced private EC customs broker who SPECIALIZES in Household belongings ("menaje de casa").

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My husband and I moved to Manta, Ecuador 15 months ago. We moved here for the climate, the ocean, and the people. We love it here....so much so that my husband created a website to share info. about Manta/Ecuador with people interested. The website is: mantaexpatsonline.com.
There are not many gardens in this immediate area because it is arrid. However, there is a rainforest only 30 minutes away where you can grow anything.
Again, we love it here. You should try it for a month or so to see for yourself if it is right for you.
No matter what you like - as far as climate goes - you can find it somewhere in this country.
Good Luck!

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grandmamaof2,
I'm stating the obvious so please bear with me but "only three weeks"puts too much pressure on you
Consider it to be .....just dipping your toe in time
EC has 11 different micro climates and is a SMALL country. You can cover most of the gringo areas in 3weeks and narrow down your pick
Beyond Pedernales for reasons of too near Colombia and malaria ,crime etc is usually ruled out by Gringos as is the Oriente The coastal devotees ,that would be me ,believe the weather to be perfect ,as well as everything else. The mountain gringos will tell you EXACTLY the same thing.No point in splitting hairs
Personally..I feel BOXED IN, IN THE MOUNTAINS and get nervous when temps fall to 70
So you will traipse around and a geographical Ecuador spot will grab your heart when you're not looking and you will probably return to the USA to mull it over and then keep on returning to the place that just CHOSE YOU
Process over EASY PEASY
So ENJOY your adventure and live it up in Ecuador
You will be bumping into gringo expats all over Ecuador and on your three week jaunt will have learned from them .......,enough to fill a book
BE HAPPY
Best to you and yours

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9/21/2011 12:38    
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Kudos to you, grandmamaof2. I read this forum every single day, and I mean every single post. Even though you might not be moving to Cuenca, buy Connie Pombo's book from the Internet: Living and Retiring in Cuenca....Lots of general questions answered. Take the advise of itsnotsobad and silverwater. At least they, unlike other people, know what they are talking about!

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9/21/2011 13:26    
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ILA is exactly right. You are sure to find a climate right for you! The only thing I would add is do not buy property (homes or land) before you have lived here at least 6 months and preferably 1 year.
You will learn in that time what area you really like and what type of property really suits you. You will also learn a lot about Ecuador, and just what will matter to you. Rent first, buy later!

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YES,
Lional is CORRECT,wise words
Purchasing in Ecuador CAN BE like negotiating a field of land mines
Does not have to be but the potential is there.
Most of the gringos we know who have bought and that includes ourselves,have our stories WE HAD AN EXCELLENT ECUADOREAN hand holding.
It can be a series of frustrations and the outcome may not always be a good one
So a GREAT AMOUNT OF HOME WORK IS NECESSARY
Brain storming with other expats ,who have gone through it, with healthy skepticism
Best to you and yours

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9/22/2011 00:46    
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Thank you for your's, I have ordered the book and will read, cover to cover with my highlighter for my "non reader: husband The kids are excited to get their hands on the book as well.Sharyn

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Thank you Ila, you are so nice to respond. Please don't ever worry about getting "too wordy" with me. Please fell free to just go on and on. Maybe a months stay would be better? Possible in Dec. and then again in June or July. Would that give us a closer understanding of the different parts of the country?
Sure, the kids want the beach but,,I could use a peaceful little fishing village if I could also grow a little garden and some fruit trees.
We are learning spanish, or are working on it. Rosetta Stone and also the Pemsleur method. Searching out people that are fluent for attemps at conversation. I read all posts, everyday, can't get too much info so keep it coming

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1/20/2013 12:21    
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You can import a car or motorcycle

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1/20/2013 21:01    
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Charles:

Could you provide a bit more information on how you can import a car or motorcycle?

We do allow you to link to your business but only with a post of reasonable and verified correct information that enriches our Ecuador Forum community

Susan

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I do not know about motorcycles, but I briefly thought about importing my 2011 Prius in 2012, but the cost was prohibitive. Unless you are a returning Ecuadorian, you can only import a current year or the previous year's model automobies. I suspect motorcycles are the same. This being 2013, you can import a 2012 or 2013 model.

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