paentteorn
6/4/2022 15:21 EST
Hi everyone,
Actually 3 questions: 1) what is the average cost of this process, it should be significant lower than an annulment? 2) is it true that this process has a duration of 2 years? 3) do you really need to do this in Manila or absolutely not as it must be done in the city where you married/registered?
Thanks in advance
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Lawdog
6/4/2022 16:11 EST
The average cost of a back door operation if you know someone is significantly cheap to process becuase all you doing is processing what’s occurred and getting it updated to reflect so that when it’s time for remarriage it’ll be easier and by the book. If you hire a lawyer he will do the same thing but he could charge you anywhere from $500 to $6000 which is not needed because it’s only processing paperwork not the actual annulment so be careful who you choose or find a legit insider to fast pace that process without paying a grip aka skin tax if they see you paying for it as a foreigner.
I would do it in the hometown of the person becuase if they get married it would bring up all the old paperwork of marriage plus the divorce paperwork and certificate that the process has been completed under one jurisdiction versus trying to accomplish it in Manila unless the person stays in Manila and that was the original place of paperwork. Processes in the Philippines is who you know and who palms you can grease successfully to get the process accomplished correctly foot stomp foot stomp CORRECTLY.
The reason for doing it correct is to make sure moving forward it’s all documented if remarriage is soon or later and all the stamps are on the paperwork with case numbers etc to justify it was correct and proper.
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Lawdog
6/4/2022 16:15 EST
Time lines in the Philippines doing it by the book could take as long as 5 years or more I’ve seen it’s not simple as other places so be weary if you don’t have an insider that works in the court system to fast track you because you can easily get caught in the shuffle. Take for instance right now iloilo court system has one judge for the city that comes on once a week to listen to cases so you can imagine that backlog which is absolutely a headache ??
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gelynch52ph
6/4/2022 23:48 EST
The annulment process in The Philippines is essentially 'divorce by bribe' and it is much easier to obtain a divorce from one's home country. For Americans that means the woman must get the document notarized not less than 90 days fro receipt of the divorce document. In my case, a few years ago my wife (with whom I am still friends) & I tried to get that document notarized but no notary would notarize it. "We don't notarize divorces," totally ignoring the fact that they are not notarizing the document, only the signature.
Now, if that is the case, a person can get a document notarized @ the US Embassy except they are not doing those functions because of Covid.
Maybe a significant "contribution" can be made to a notary and bypass whatever qualms they may have against notarizing a divorce?
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surfingcebu
6/5/2022 01:34 EST
Paen- you need a Pinoy lawyer mate…. Not a BB or BB advise.
Law is tricky in the RP , the divorce of your GF may not be possible in every circumstance. Not the USA/ Canada here - thank gosh … making connections or paying off somebody in the court system could be your biggest mistake of your life asa foreigner .
Surf .
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DarwinBarr
6/6/2022 23:39 EST
One of my friends has been married for 2 years and after he wanted to divorce. His wife didn't want it and asked for money for the process. He back to his country and made divorce documents there. After he back to the Philippines as a free man )
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Asawa
6/7/2022 08:35 EST
Annulments used to be exceedingly rare for ordinary (Humble/poor) Philippine Citizens. Good article at: http://www.gtalawphil.com/Philippine%20Annulment%20101_1.htm
Anything is possible. Some things are unlikely. However, some people are fortunate, persistent, or have the money to remove barriers.
I only recall one person in 25 years who I personally know of who achieved Annulments. Compare this to the three people I know who found it easier to have spouses declared legally dead (to be able to remarry) by hiring a lawyer, running ads in news papers, and doing investigations 5 years after seperation.
I knew another four who said to heck with it, and just decided to live with each other in the Philippines. Immigration proved impossible.
That's hardly scientific, but between 2002 and 2016 (when I stopped paying attention), Annulment seemed rare among the Fil-Am Girlfriends, Fiance and Wives circles.
And, women (who were married in the Philippines) who attempted to travel abroad for the purpose of getting divorced/married again (in a different country that would recognize it), were either denied or committed immigration fraud for failing to state the true intent of their travel. Most tourist visas do not cover "getting divorced and remarried".... they are for travel.
It's a tricky situation that usually leaves folks disappointed (in my experience).
-Asawa
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