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i need help with a nursing home for my father in law

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stockbizz
1/4/2017 22:43 EST

my wife is from Managua and her father is not getting the care he needs from her other siblings. He is deteriorating very rapidly. can someone give me a name of a nursing home facility in managua or nearby. someplace to help him eat and bathe. thank you so much for any input. we are in the dark...
anhthony mazzo

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iguanalover
1/5/2017 09:10 EST

We are not aware of a commercial nursing home of the type to which you are referring. We know several people who had similar problems with aging parents. They had live-in help who cared for the parents or several helpers who covered 24/7. I would suggest that you inquire on facebook, the expats of Managua page. There are hogars por ancianos in the country. We have seen them in small towns, but not Managua but that doesn't mean they don't exist there. I would contact MINSA to ask about the hogars.

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ricktee
1/5/2017 09:58 EST

There is a Catholic run home in Granada that is very nice. I do not know the name of it but you should be able to get it from a local parish.
It would be worth checking out. HTH.

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elduendegrande
1/5/2017 10:56 EST

We are all just one stroke or heart attack away from oblivion. I sometimes wonder what I would do if I were disabled here. My family in the uS already has one PTD person, so adding to their burden would not be good.
My wife would be here, but giving her a 24/7 burden might run her into the ground and I don't think I would like to be institutionalized here, even it it were free or affordable.. My best bet would to hire a nurse, either live in or daily visits to give the family a break. Doable here for $300 a month (?), if one is healthy enough to stay at home.

It would always be a political battle to have the family supervise the nurse and not have the nurse snowed under by family politics or superstitions, but once you are sick you have to take your chances.

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atz111
1/5/2017 11:16 EST

I believe you were right on the homecare person. You might even have to pay a bit more–– say to get a person who is $500 dollars a month so they are better suited to you. In any case, it seems a lot better than being institutionalized here or in the United States. Be really good if you could couple that with getting a decent doctor who would make house calls once in a while, as you needed them. Let's hope we don't get find out about this.

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KeyWestPirate
1/5/2017 14:27 EST

Father in law is here in Ncaragua?

I would think $300 could buy one professional for 200, and one helper for the $100.

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elduendegrande
1/6/2017 10:20 EST

Don't forget the "hidden" costs, food, INSS, aguinaldo, etc. A nurse, probably a new grad might be available for 200/mo in the near countryside like Esteli because the education industry cranks our far more grads than the economy needs, but paying the fringes and a wage that will keep somebody will cost more.
Prices in MGA would be more, i am sure.
In the far countryside you probably won't have the educated talent except by luck, some poor babe who wants to be by Mama or is afraid of the city.

In Esteli now it is getting harder to find even maids. the young girls from the countryside come in for "work" a/o to be close to schools and pretty soon they run off with Swinging Richard, often against the wished of their family.. One of our family members lost a maid when she got robbed walking 4 blocks to the bus to go on a school field trip. Papa called her home for her own protection.

Anyway, whatever the cost a live-in nurse here is a bargain compared to $5-6,000/mo nursing home in the US. Medicare/medicaid pays most of it in the US in exchange for your paying down your assets but your choice of homes is limited by who will take the govmint plans.

Blessed are those that get the opportunity to live and die at home with some kind of quality care.

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bluewind
1/7/2017 12:24 EST

I saw a guy on youtube who lives on Lake Atitlan, Guatamala. He's an older guy that has a maid that pretty much takes care of everything for him. Health care in that country is probably not good and I don't know what he would do if he ends up with a serious medical problem, but it sounds like his life there is pretty darn good. I would imagine this sort of accomodation would be available anywhere in CA. But if I were to live outside the States, I would definitely keep my health insurance just in case.

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englishvinal
1/9/2017 12:45 EST

A native of Nica who travels back and forth about every 4 months has long standing contacts (40 years+) lives here in Texas with me,
He is personal friends with an MD in Managua and stays there with her family when he travels to Nica.
She would very likely know of someone qualified to help out with your father in law, take proper care of him and do it reasonably... otherwise if you don't know somebody as a gringo your costs will go UP.
my email is nancy.vinal@yandex.com
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I have been trying to get someone who wants to invest in Nica to show an interest in building a nursing-home / anti-aging treatment facility on my 43 acres of cool fertile wooded land about 5 miles outside San Marcos Nica... it would provide a comfortable income and a lovely place to reside, but in 12 years of searching I have yet to find a sincere interest.
Your posting outlines the crying shortage of ANY decent facility to care for elderly... or even to provide qualified honest people to give in-home care.
Nancy Vinal
Texas

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iguanalover
1/9/2017 17:56 EST

The in-home care we have seen in Nicaragua was provided by kind, caring Nicas. And, they were extremely honest, something that cannot be said for providers in the US that work for money. The profit motive in the US medical system is what is shocking. We like the system here. There is no crying shortage of good care. Our good friend, Edna, died in her home, surrounded by her family and caregivers. She was beloved to the end. I am not surprised you have not found any sincere interest in twelve years of searching.

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elduendegrande
1/10/2017 11:21 EST

Also, see if he is on INSS. My wife got on it last year and it is mucho more better than the regular .public clinics and hospital

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elduendegrande
1/10/2017 11:21 EST

Also, see if he is on INSS. My wife got on it last year and it is mucho more better than the regular .public clinics and hospital

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englishvinal
1/10/2017 14:08 EST

Dear Igunalover:
Thank you for your post. My interest came about because my husband was a Parkinsons victim and we moved to Nica so that we could be in the very environment you describe. - A place where the older folk are appreciated, cared for, and not preyed upon by the soul-less system.

We bought the lovely land, but for sad reasons that don't bear discussion here, we were forced to return to the US and I cared for him alone til the end.
My epiphany of founding a care facility on the land in San Marcos was based on my understanding that "there is no room in the inn" for aging parents etc. in the hearts of the younger people in the US.

I wanted to #1 Provide organic, healthy surroundings,..
#2. Provide really caring nurses and assistants to show love to older people, along with good quality care.
#3. Provide work for Nica people....
.... and lastly make an investment in building the facility worthwhile for an investor. - Otherwise investors won't be available.... after all THEY are "in it for a return".. not because they have a crippled husband and want to see elderly cared for with love.
I own the land which is valuable but I have no funds to build a viable complex. That is the bottom line, Nonetheless, I haven't given up completely on my vision.
Nancy

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johnchip
1/11/2017 20:19 EST

Elduendegrande What is INSS?

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