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Hutlea
7/3/2019 22:31 EST

Hi
My husband and I are looking at moving Italy from Australia. However, first we would try the move for 6 months. We have a private rental at Penne for the time but have recently hit the wall of not being able to stay longer the 90 days.

Our ages are 46 and 56, we are fully funded, have health insurance and a return ticket.

I am looking at attending Language school but I do nit think it will satisfy the 20hrs pw needed for a study visa.

Any other suggestions or experiences with how to get a Visa for 6 months?

Any help or guidance is greatly appreciated.

regards
Leanne

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Shtinky
7/4/2019 08:31 EST

Hi Leanne, there is no way you can get a longer than 90 day Visa. I’m sure you’ve looked at the Italian Embassy/Consulate website. The Visas listed are the only possibilities for longer stays. I assume, when you come here to live you’ll be getting an Elective Residency Visa? The student Visa is an option for you. You’d both need to be enrolled. Otherwise, you may have to cut your trip short to 90 days.

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codybrandy
7/5/2019 04:23 EST

Dear Hutlea, I suppose you could apply for the full 2yr visa and just leave after a year. But...it's a lot of bureaucratic nonsense with many months of waiting, lots of docs to submit both before you leave and then again when you arrive in Italy...best to go to your consulate in Australia and get advice. Good Luck

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giudytta41
7/10/2019 10:24 EST

Just last week we met with the Consulato for our state of residency and while we are trying for three years elective visa. The interviewer said it is not worth it for anyone to apply for only six months. “ Too much work for both sides”. And it is a lot of work! I am guessing student visas or specific work visas would be a different story.

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Shtinky
7/10/2019 12:29 EST

According to the people we spoke with at the Embassy, the purpose of the Elective Residence Visa is to allow a person to move to Italy on a semi-permanent basis. Thus they do not give a limited Visa of 6 months. That’s not what it’s meant for. And you must apply for the Permesso di Soggiorno immediately upon arrival here. They also told us, if you get the ER Visa and come here, then return to the US for some time as in a few years, letting your Permesso expire, they will not give you the ER Visa again. So doing this would be burning your bridges, as it were.

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Hutlea
7/11/2019 06:59 EST

Thank you so much for the info. We are coming from Australia and finding it sooo difficult to stay forth time.

We will be enrolling in a course to study - so it may just need to be longer. Apart from 20hrs per week - is there any further requirements?

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Shellyclark2002
7/15/2019 08:41 EST

I have watched this thread with interest. I've also looked at the Consulate information and am still confused. I'm going to Italy for a visit in October. I'm retired and would like to stay longer than 90 days. I have Italian friends with whom I'll stay. How can an American stay in Italy for six months? If I enter England on a six months tourist visa is that sufficient if I then go to Italy?
Thanks for any help.

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Shtinky
7/15/2019 08:53 EST

Hi Shellyclark,
The short answer is no. The Schengen Zone doesn’t allow tourists to stay longer than 90 days out of 180. England is not part of the Schengen zone so if you went there the 6 month Visa is not valid in Schengen. whenever you enter Italy you would start your 90 day stay clock ticking. You can come to Italy for 90 days and then go out of the Schengen Zone for 90. For instance you could go to Croatia for 90 days, then return to Italy. Or England. It you can’t stay more than 90 days in a row out of 180. There are steep fines and banishment from the Zone if you are caught.

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Shellyclark2002
7/15/2019 09:11 EST

Thank you so much. It is as I expected. Looks like I'm going to have to budget in a trip back home every 90 days. But, where there's a will there's away for this traveling Gypsy Grammy.

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Shtinky
7/15/2019 09:19 EST

Do you know if you qualify for an Elective Residence Visa? If you can, and don’t mind all the bureaucratic paperwork necessary you can stay longer. You’d need enough income from other than work to support yourself here. That amounts to around €3,500 a month per person. Although amounts are not published and vary according to Consulate.

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Shellyclark2002
7/16/2019 10:54 EST

Hi Schtinky: Thanks for preventing an expensive blunder on my part. Do I understand correctly that if I enter Italy on Oct. 30th, stay for until Dec. 3 (35 days) I can only come back the end of December for another 55 days. My plan was to come back on December 30 and stay for another 90 days. Am I incorrect? Would I only have the 55 days left? Thanks so much. Shelly

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almare2
7/16/2019 11:25 EST

The rule is that you can stay 90 days in 180, on a rolling basis. So yes, you could stay only 55 days on the second trip. A neat calculating tool can be found at https://ec.europa.eu/assets/home/visa-calculator/calculator.htm?lang=en.

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Shtinky
7/16/2019 11:33 EST

Yes, as another poster said, you must limit yourself to 90 days in 180 so you’ll need to cut your trip a bit short.

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Shellyclark2002
7/16/2019 18:14 EST

Thank you Almare 2.

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Shellyclark2002
7/16/2019 18:17 EST

Thank you Schtinky too. :-)

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