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TSCHINA
12/24/2017 00:07 EST

I'm sure thi question hs been asked before, but here it is. Contemplating retiringand moving to Belize from Philadelphia area, question is do I tore my tewo bedroom apartment gppds to be shipped aftere I secure a fianl housing in Belize, or do most people sell evdrything and buy replac3ements in Belize. I'm reading that mot rentals come fully furnished, or is that not correct? If you have sold your household how did you go about that, an estate sale,etc? Thanks,
in advance for your assistance. So many details to be worked out it's a bit overwhelming.

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katzgar
12/24/2017 10:24 EST

I would go down with as little as possible and buy stuff cheaply from expats moving back north.

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katzgar
12/24/2017 10:25 EST

keep in mind metal rusts quickly and leather rots quickly.

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BarryK
12/24/2017 11:35 EST

Hopefully, before you make the decision to spend your retirement here, you have spent significant time down here. By the sound of your post, and the questions you have asked, you have not (or you would have answers from expats you talked to during previous visits. Keep your stuff for now, and come visit for a few months. Rent in one or more places in the country. Most rentals come fully furnished for short-term rental. Should you decide after visiting that you want to move, then decide on moving your household down here. We came down full-time 4 years ago. Sold our house in the U.S., along with all of our household goods. Estate sale is the best way to get everything sold. Should you decide to purchase a home here, look into the QRP program. As a participant, you get a one-time shot to move all your goods, a car, boat, etc. down here duty and tax free.

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5allan1
12/24/2017 12:15 EST

Things I brought that I'm glad I did:
Slow cooker
Boxed wine (couldnt find it in Corozal)
good flatware. What is sold in Corozal is not of good quality
Tupperware
Decent quality cookware (Revereware)
Convection oven. Saves time, less expensive to run
Decent quality microwave. My Courts micro died after 1.5 years, like everything else you get there
Tooth paste. They have one size fits all toothpaste
Sewing machine for repairs
Electric radio clock w/battery backup.
Rechargable batteries and battery charger.
Lamps. Finding decent table lamps is difficult
Tools: hammer, hand saw, power saw, electric chain saw, if you have a lot of shrubbery, wrenches, screw driver set, plyers of all sizes,a square, stud finder if you have a Mennonite house, bar clamps, sander, cordless drill, long extension cords,
Specialty foods you like. For me that included sweet and sour sauce, stirfry peanut sauce, spices, if you bake your own bread, bring in bread flour. Could not find it there. A really decent potato peeler. Spuds are rock hard there and the peelers they sell break fast, like everything else
Towels, electronics, flip flops, linens, matresses,pillows.
A year supply of Prozac and Talisker scotch
I'm sure there's more, but that's all I can think of for now.

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belizelenny
12/25/2017 10:41 EST

Depends if you are coming in on the Qualified Retirement Program or coming in and will likely want to work at some time. Unless you are bringing in a ton of stuff, including vehicles and a boat.. You will likely just replace.

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terrific
12/25/2017 21:12 EST

That rarely happens. Timing is never that good and anything being sold from leavers is likely to be sold to friends and aquantances once they decide they are going to leave, long before the 'strangers' in town.
Good theory though.

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bradinbelize
12/26/2017 08:09 EST

all god advice. Most things you can get here, most rentals do come furnished (minimally though) and have a minimal amount of appliances, household items (although the vast majority of Americans will be surprised at how much crap they have that you really don;t need.

If there is something you really, really can;t live with, bring it, but keep it a minimum.

Several people that commented don;t live here now (or haven't in a long time), so things have changed - you can get most things (or a cheaper chinese version of said thing), and there are expats moving back to US and Canada all the time that are selling their stuff (Facebook has many groups now for buy & sell in Belize).

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5allan1
12/26/2017 11:21 EST

What Brad fails to report( big surprise) is cost comparisons for quality products..Cost in USD
Charmin 12 roll :

San Ignacio Belize – $12.75
San Pedro Belize – 8 roll $12.25$
Merida, Mexico – $1.52
Toronto, Canada -ultra strong $6. 99
Of course you will be told to buy local like Elite or Roses but unless you want a serious case of red a55, I wouldn’t. Not in that climate.

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CayeCaulker4Me
12/27/2017 20:15 EST

@5allan1...as far as I can tell, you're the only reda$$ here.

Seriously, we're going to discourage folks from moving to Belize based on the cost of PREMIUM toilet paper???

Folks, let this be Exhibit A for proof of the desperation this man has to discredit Belize. Consider this when pondering any other comments by this "reda$$" poster. Pathetic!!!

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5allan1
12/28/2017 06:24 EST

Needless to say CC4M is customarily weak on factual data and strong on rhetoric.
Lets say you feel like Italian and you need a lb of Linguini. Here ‘s the deal...
Ronzoni Linguini:
Caye Caulker Belize – $3.50 (US)
Corozal Belize – $1.80
Merida, Mexico – $.96
Toronto,Canada – $.86
Dedicated to Brad..
You feel like a meal of shrimp quesidillas and so off we go to the Office Bar & Grill on AC: 25$ bz ( $12.50 US)
Toronto, Canada 8.29$
Merida,Mex 1.25$
and if we head off to Wine De Vine for a bottle of Cabernet you will fork out at least 2x that of USA or Mex. ( much like eveything else). Brad correctly states that there are many quality products now available but you pay a hefty price for this. However many products are let in to Belize that elsewhere fail quality control, which is why a microwave might last a year.
Newbies need to know this stuff. Belize is 30% more costly than its regional neighbours. Corozal is a bit better and its proximity to Mexico for superior shopping and medical makes it desirable to many who are more comfortable in an English language country.

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katzgar
12/28/2017 10:00 EST

Should one wish to discourage any one from moving to Belize things like poor infrastructure, serious health care needs, noisy towns, mind numbing summer heat and efficiency matters to you are all issues to consider. No one is trying to discourage anyone but rather such a move should be done with eyes wide open.

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ruvellabrown
12/28/2017 11:27 EST

My observation is ,it is a better idea to take in appliances and electronics to Belize. I was able to buy appliances from an American who moved to Thailand. There is a quality element of cheap, cheesy products that dominates the appliance market there. If you want something akin to German engineering you better haul it in....Also, a store like say Courts has a very limited selection to boot....

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bobbyveee
12/28/2017 11:40 EST

If you check the expiry dates on tinned goods, medicines baby food to list just a few many are out of date, this is why they can be bought cheaply by importers . I buy wine in Sams club, the same wine in AC is exactly 6 times more. Totally agree, bring white goods in, local stuff rusts while you look at it. A new golf cart on AC around $12k USd , the same in Florida just over $4k. The best way to enjoy Belize is to travel back to US atleast once a yr. get your medical checks done and stock up on essentials

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Vallew11
12/28/2017 12:44 EST

Allen- here is one thing I think you make perfectly clear to all of us. That you are willing to screw all those hard working people in Mexico by paying as little as you possibly can for anything. Getting a deal isn’t a bad thing, but what I have found here in AC is that people are freaking poor! And we as Americans deal them down as far as we can to pay as little as we possibly can. My husband and I have tried to be very fair in our dealings and hope that we not only feel good about what we pay, but also those we buy from can feed their children. Yes, we have found that diving here has been spendy, but the price of gas is so expensive they guides don’t make all that much. It all boils down to your level of selfishness. Are you only out for yourself, or do you care enough to make life better for those around you. Idk- for me, I feel better about myself knowing I’m not screwing everyone for my sake only.

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terrific
12/28/2017 14:10 EST

vallew

I have to agree with those sentiments. If you really need to have all your US standard goods then expect to pay for them. My husband was delighted to be able to buy me my favourite chocolates for christmas here in California, but he paid 3 times the price than he would have paid for them back in England. it is the price you as an expat pay for your imported luxuries from home.
if the local people want those imported goods they also pay the same price as you.

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bobbyveee
12/28/2017 14:17 EST

Vallew, theres always been more Belizians than expats shopping for bargins over the border, i dont quite see that your argument stands up, most people i was buying food and wine from on AC were Chinese or Lebanese , We bought our fish and veggies from locals and thats about all locals sell.

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ruvellabrown
12/28/2017 16:14 EST

It boils down to a sense of integrity as well. To short change others intentionally is a wicked way to behave, especially when they are dirt poor to begin with...

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bobbyveee
12/28/2017 16:26 EST

I dont think anyone one on this forum is trying to short change anybody, we donated thousands to locals in need and to local deserving charities. But when you go shopping, you try to get the best deal you can, Just look at what Amazon is doing to the big dept. stores in the US.

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belizelenny
12/30/2017 12:17 EST

In you leave near the border (Corozal) with Mexico, Sams Club, Chedraui, and many other stores are in Chetumal. Walmart and Home Depot as well.

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