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PolarBearKing
9/26/2017 16:39 EST

Hi all, I've been spending a ton of time reading the forum. Good info! Thanks.

About me; Retired fireman, 53 yrs old, recent empty nester and traveling solo.

My dilemma; Flight arrives at 1630 and the last puddle jumper leaves at 1700 for Gangriga. I am coming down for three plus months to check things out, so I probably wont be able to clear customs in time.,, and I have zero desire to spend a night in BC.

My primary consideration is finding a NICE beach that I can swim at. Therefore, Hopkins and Placencia are/were my first choice. Now I'm thinking about hiring a shuttle to take me to Corozal first and spend a few days/week there, before heading south. Ultimately, I'd like to find a place to rent and just relax with a central location so I can jump on a bus and explore the area more. AC is not really on my list because I am not a big drinker/partier and am looking for a more relaxing stay. However, I won't rule it out, if taking a ferry across from BC is my best option upon arrival

Thoughts???

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Kenubelizeit
9/26/2017 21:07 EST

Hello if you book your flight to Dangriga the airline facilitates your transfer (doublecheck) if u need a transfer or a full non commercial factual info u can email me at kenubelizeit@Yahoo.com

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bradinbelize
9/26/2017 22:41 EST

Just a suggestion, but this would be very easy and give you a chance to check out the Cayes. It aint all drinking and partying and you can find a nice relaxing place for a few days.

Fly in, grab cab to the water taxi dock (Belize San Pedro Express) and head over here to San Pedro (Ambergris Caye), spend the night and check out the beaches and town, maybe stay a day or so , then take a day trip to Caulker (3 nights on San Pedro sounds like it would be enough for you, which would at least give you a feel of the place and give you one full day here and one on Caulker via the day trip).

Fly from San Pedro to Dangriga (you will connect through BC) and then take your trip from there. Hopkins is only 20 - 25 minutes from Dangriga and is a quaint, little village on the sea so you could compare San Pedro, Caulker and Hopkins - probably the best three waterfront places in Belize (and Placencia before everyone stars yelling) - you can go to Placencia from Hopkins and then head back north to San Ignacio. This little trip would give you a good "starter feel" to Belize.

Being around the same age and not a big partier or drinker myself, I think these areas are appealing and relatively slow (especially compared to the US) but have enough "action" and variety that you don't get completely bored.

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flyingriki
9/26/2017 23:29 EST

A buddy and I, both in our 60s, went to AC and stayed at a great place south of the airport. Was quiet. They had a bar and kitchen on the beach. Rented a golf cart for two days and explored. Not all wild and crazy, actually mostly laid back. Nice place, but I prefer CC for small and cozy.

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katzgar
9/27/2017 10:49 EST

Spend some time looking at stuff on YouTube and Gmail apps and you will see that ambergris caye is mostly undeveloped so your perception is incorrect. Caye Caulker is a great place if you're a tourist but it's a Six Mile Long Island with very little in the way of shopping and infrastructure and Healthcare, not the best place for expats.

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/27/2017 13:15 EST

"...not the best place for expats."

I beg to differ. Qualify your broad, generalized comment with adding "....expats looking for a busier and socially active place"

Also, "not for expats with chronic health issues or concerns."

It is broad statements as yours that lead to misunderstandings that were made in the original post of this thread.

No place, anywhere in the world is for any large, identifiable group i.e. "expats". Try to be more specific with your qualifying remarks, and your statements will be much more beneficial to newcomers.

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terrific
9/27/2017 13:21 EST

If you book the flight to dangriga, tell airline staff you have a transfer they contact local air company and unless you have particular time consuming things with customs, its usually just down to how quick your bags get down. The flight will most likely wait. Flights often arrive early and you may not be the only one wanting that puddle jumper. If worst happens if you have a booked ticket they will probably put you on whatever is the actual last flight and get you to Dangriga via wherever that plane goes.
You say flight to Dangriga but say you want to be in Placencia/ Hopkins.
There are direct flights to Placencia that might be a better fit for you and may even have others on your flight booked.
Just trying o be helpful

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katzgar
9/27/2017 13:40 EST

Saying it's not the best place for expats is pretty straightforward

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5allan1
9/27/2017 14:08 EST

I liked Cauker ( for 72 hours).
Back in the day when I was with MOH it was difficult find an MD to consistently work there. I dont think its changed much. I have never reccomended anyone to retire there, as there is no real medical infrastructure and at retirement age who wants to risk waiting hours or more for a medivac to air lift you to the mainland?
The island culture centers around parties and diving and laying around nursing a goma. Its a great tourist spot for a couple of days.

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/27/2017 15:16 EST

"Saying it's not the best place for expats is pretty straightforward."

I guess the current expat population on CC, that makes up about 1/3 of the total 1,400, are all ignorant to what THEY enjoy or are seeking in life, nor are they interested in "the best place" for them? Geez, the need to be right ALL the time, really detracts from many of your posts!

To the poster with the "Belize medical paranoia", There is a full time Dr,, Nurse and Dentist on CC now. I'm fairly comfortable with my present health status to be OK with moving to CC with that availability. If I limit myself to only visit/live in places where there is a hospital with in spitting distance, than that really, REALLY limits my ability to see and experience living in much of this world that is on my Bucket List. Our plans are to "AirBnB" around the world for the next foreseeable number of years, living for 6 - 9 or so months at a stretch, in different locales that meet our interest (which is to not "need the North America" amenities just around the corner.... such as one other poster in particular) so long as our health permits...using common sense, not the fear of a possibility.

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PolarBearKing
9/27/2017 15:21 EST

Thank you for all the replies! Keep 'em coming.

Funny, no one mentioned Corozal...

CC4Me, I've read enough post here to know who the players are and where they're coming from. At this juncture of my life, shopping convenience and health care are not my priorities. A nice beach where I can swim from is.

Brad, I should be more clear. I have a friend joining me at the end of my stay and we will most likely spend some time in AC and/or one of the numerous cayes before returning to the States. Therefore, a more central location like Hopkins, where after a few weeks, I can make a few extended day trips to Bokawina or Cockscomb or Tikal or Rio Dulce, Guatemala or...

Thanks terrific, I will reach out to them and see what there policy is.

Ken, I will hit you up if I can't make my connecting flight.

Thanks again everybody...

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Vallew11
9/27/2017 15:39 EST

Amen CayeCaulker4me- some people just have this need to be right all of the time! What they refuse to see is that no 2 people are exactly the same so there is no way in hell his advice is 100% right for everyone.

People just have to take a leap of faith and try things for themselves. You can't make a life out of living in fear. I take the leaps and enjoy my life. I suggest others do too. Asking for advice is good and everyone should, but with that it's important to make ones owns choice. Look forward to having that drink with you guys when we come down that way in December!!

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/27/2017 15:48 EST

Awesome Vallew11, We'll be well established by then! Just an fyi, we leave on 12/22 for our Christmas trip home, hope you'll be there before then.

Live each day like it's your last, and your last day will likely be a long way off! And if it isn't, you'll have enjoyed to the fullest the ones you did have ;-D

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5allan1
9/27/2017 16:09 EST

Well nobody really replied clearly to your requests so..
If your priority is a nice beach you are better off on the Costa Maya Mx. and so Mahahual is your best bet. Hopkins-Placencia have beaches but they are infested with sand fleas at a rate of 6000+/ sq meter. Plus sea grass.
Corozal has no beaches but it is affordable and has Mexico next door.
Your decision to avoid AC is a smart one. Expensive, touristy, and inebriated and as has as much in common with Belize as Cancun has with Mexico,

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bobbyveee
9/27/2017 17:30 EST

I'd just like to mention one thing, anyone on CC that has a major medical problem in the near future will NOT be able to be evacuated by plane, just a possible choppy crossing to the mainland.
We got island sick on AC after 6 months , you do need to think on smaller cayes have you got an escape to 'sanity' available. I do admit most of our friends , like us had the money and multiple homes to address this symptom .

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katzgar
9/27/2017 17:48 EST

The OPer said he is after a beach and that is not on Caye Caulker. The only place there is a real beach in Belize is Placencia certainly not on any of the cayes. Northern Belize would actually be smarter so that you can have access to shopping in medical care in Mexico.

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katzgar
9/27/2017 18:03 EST

Lets be honest about the healthcare shall we? http://edition.channel5belize.com/archives/98491

Estimates are that 60% of expats return north in the first couple of years so maybe a little fact finding is a good thing. Instead of criticizing others perhaps you could show how anything I say is incorrect. You can play games all day but in the end a third world country is still a third world country.

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Vallew11
9/27/2017 19:14 EST

We will be flying in late in the 21st so looks like we will miss meeting. We will however still come visit CC for a day.

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/27/2017 22:45 EST

"Estimates are that 60% of expats return north in the first couple of years..."

I keep hearing/reading this statistic from 3 particular posters. My question is.....What about the 40% that end up staying? Are they wrong, screwed up, anomolies, or we're just supposed to be so impressed by the BIG number 60 to just discount them???

According to your collective usage of this statistic, NO ONE should go to Belize, because there's a 60 % chance you will go home, after a couple YEARS.

Like those couple years are wasted?

The statistic doesn't account for the % of those who only planned to spend a year or two in the first place.

Statistics are great, only when one knows ALL the parameters of the survey, the reason for the survey, what the sample population is, how the survey was administered (this is HUGE when analyzing and applying the results) and so many other factors go into the VALIDITY of a study.

To just blindly state, over and over, the same generalized & dated statistic, and no others, to support your point, starts to look a LOT more like desperation to make one's point, rather than to inform others of a possible outcome.

Just saying.

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/27/2017 22:51 EST

http://edition.channel5belize.com/archives/98491

LMAO - FULL DISCLOSURE - this article is from 2014......3 freaking years ago Boys!

I just posted earlier that as of February, 2017, Caye Caulker now has a Dr. living on the island Full Time.

Seems 2017 is just a bit more current information for an expat, or anyone, trying to make a decision about future travel, than 2014!!!

Seems like 3 posters very desperate to be right, as opposed to being informative.

Just saying.

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terrific
9/28/2017 03:47 EST

As a non expat yourself You must be a great authority on the good and bad places for expats.

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Kenubelizeit
9/28/2017 07:02 EST

There is cartels in Mexico and begging starving kids that bother you trying to get you to buy thrum stuff. Don't go to Mahahual the waste from all if Ecuador ends up in Mahahual. Stop it Allan you are already contaminating my sense of well being here is a bit of advice. TELL ALLAN LEAVE BELIZE ALONE WE ARE FINE WITH ALL THE SAND FLIES AND ALL THE LACK IF INFRASTRUCTURES!!!! Btw I have never been to Mahahual is disregard the "rass" just posted. Have a good day but stay far from Allan.

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Kenubelizeit
9/28/2017 07:02 EST

There is cartels in Mexico and begging starving kids that bother you trying to get you to buy thrum stuff. Don't go to Mahahual the waste from all if Ecuador ends up in Mahahual. Stop it Allan you are already contaminating my sense of well being here is a bit of advice. TELL ALLAN LEAVE BELIZE ALONE WE ARE FINE WITH ALL THE SAND FLIES AND ALL THE LACK IF INFRASTRUCTURES!!!! Btw I have never been to Mahahual is disregard the "rass" just posted. Have a good day but stay far from Allan.

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Kenubelizeit
9/28/2017 07:05 EST

By golly you are so right.

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/28/2017 07:24 EST

"The OPer said he is after a beach and that is not on Caye Caulker."

Wrong again Mr. Katzgar! The Koko King Resort, on the south-western tip of the north island, with it's man made, expansive sand beach opened in early 2017 and is a great new attraction that has become very popular. The run a FREE shuttle from the South island to the resort, and back, every 45 minutes throughout the day & night.

They throw an awesome Full Mmon Howl Party every month,
that is becoming widely known and heralded throughout Belize and beyond, by those open to hearing about Progress in Belize, as opposed to those set and focused on spreading the old and tiresome news about the past.

Check it out Mr. Katzgar, one of the 3 negative Know-It-ALLs of Belize, if you can open that closed mind long enough to Learn something New & Positive about Belize, that you obviously Don't Already Know!!!

http://www.kokokingcayecaulker.com

Just saying.....

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5allan1
9/28/2017 08:20 EST

Chill Ken, ur gonna have a stroke and in Belize thats a death sentence.
Ecuador is on the Pacific coast so for basura to end up in Mahuhual means it would need to pass thru the Panama canal.
Beggars are everywhere in Belize and usually adults hitting on u for mom's surgery, church reconstruction, or for goma therapy.
Also sand fleas are so prevalent in Hopkins that biologists from Israel have studied them and their transmission of leishmaniasis.

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katzgar
9/28/2017 08:57 EST

My link confirms the existence of a doctor on the caye doesnt it? You are a stereotypical expat. you get all bent out of shape just to get all bent out of shape.

The 1900 feet of new trucked in
beach is indeed just wonderful except when compared to Placencia.

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/28/2017 09:03 EST

"Also sand fleas are so prevalent in Hopkins that biologists from Israel have studied them and their transmission of leishmaniasis."

Yup, that's why the whole population of Hopkins has been completely infested and died off. The place is a ghost town, no one lives there.

Oh wait, there's a thriving population, people living there seem to be happy and tourist continue to plan vacations there.

You are a pathetic excuse for a medical Dr. and a prime example of how someone with an advanced degree can assume a false sense of authority and superiority. You keep spewing these statistics, stories and studies, yet Belize continues to move along, despite your doomsday warnings to all who express even the hint of interest in exploring the country.

Yup, pathetic about sums it up.

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/28/2017 10:26 EST

"The 1900 feet of new trucked in
beach is indeed just wonderful except when compared to Placencia."

So which of your statements are readers to believe (or Belize?), that there is NO beach on CC, or that there is one, but just not as nice a Placencia's? Which, by the way, a comparison of beaches was not even the topic of the discussion.

Yes, your article, from over 3 years ago mentions there WAS a Dr there, THEN, however your, and your buddies, comments about contemporary CC, have indicated there is no fulltime Dr. on CC NOW. These statements are put forth to discourage potential expats from considering CC, seemingly mostly because you guys just don't like it yourselves.

It gets confusing to follow your train of thoughts and advice, when it freely changes 180 degrees, just to prove your right, when it's been proven you are wrong, when in your "proof", you show you actually were wrong. See how confusing that is???

Yeah, lumping me in with some self-defined group of people's you, and your buddies, disparage, must seem like a valid defense of your confusing comments, but really just reveals your unfounded bias and closed mindedness. But, continue on with your efforts, by doing so, you merely support my words and observations. Thanks by the way :-D

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Conmurphy
9/28/2017 10:38 EST

I totally agree,

He just gets off on trolling, the more you comment at his bile the more aroused he gets,

C

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Vallew11
9/28/2017 10:49 EST

Does anyone else get frustrated with the doom and gloom posts by the 3 (clearly unhappy with life) men? Thank you CC4me for at least trying to put a lighter view on Belize. We all know it isn't for everyone, just like every other place in the world. But come on!!!! No, I am not claiming to know what it's like to live there (only have vacationed for years there) but I do know with having a brain, not everything is going to be roses regardless of where I may chose to love. It's called life. By telling people over and over and over how horrid someplace is, and if you decide to move there you are basically stupid is just insulting to others intelligence. I can't even begin to count how many times people have asked you to stop spewing the egotistical hate mongoring comments and just move on! We all get it, you hate Belize!! And Allen dude- it's clear you get some kind of kickback from the Mexico tourism industry to push their country. Listen, Mexico is just as much a 3rd world country as the rest of them. Are there areas that might be safer than others? I'm sure there is. But every country has good and bad. Stop insulting people! Wherever you live make the most of life!! You can't provide helpful information to others when all you do is preach gloom and doom and hate filled information. I know for myself I read your comments for a good laugh. Because it's so sad and pathetic. Move along and let the rest of us take a break from your demeaning posts.

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katzgar
9/28/2017 11:01 EST

your assertion that I care if people move to CC is bogus. People should know what they are getting into. Blowing smoke up peoples skirts is just dishonest. I know a couple of you have businesses you are trying to promote but being dishonest about the place just pisses people off in the long run.

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/28/2017 12:10 EST

Telling LIES (i.e. there are no beaches on Caye Caulker) is the highest form of blowing smoke up someones a$$ Katzgar.

And it is WAY more low handed than having a business interest, that has been freely and openly admitted to by everyone on here you are accusing of being sly about trying to promote their business interests, because your LIES are for nothing more than to feel superior to others and promote your developed distaste for the country of Belize, under the guise of "full disclosure".

There is nothing wrong with "full disclosure" as long as it is based on UNBIASED FACT, and CURRENT & CONTEMPORARY FACTS at that, which kind Sir, many of yours have been proven to NOT be so!

But again, keep on spewing, you make my points easier and easier to make with every word you type!!!

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katzgar
9/28/2017 14:29 EST

Trying to compare a couple of dump trucks of sand on caye Caulker with Placencia is absurd

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terrific
9/28/2017 15:03 EST

Katzgar you do not live in any part of Belize you may have vacationed there but you are not an expat in Belize.
Just reiterating information from the web is fine the links while not always relevant are fine, but your statements about what places are best for expats and what is happening on the ground today in Belize anywhere,have no authority just a non expat opinion. Your next post is going to challenge to all to prove it is not true and claim all your information is accurate. No one usually objects to the accuracy of the web links or direct info you give just your opinions stated as facts. Sorry your if health seems to be the reason you can not move to Belize. This is an assumption made by me as you warn everyone they will die of a heart attack in Belize if they have one. Which may or not be true but I will take that risk, We all have to die somewhere at sometime. My family all know I would never want to be kept alive by machines so Belize guarantees that wont happen. But if I fall and break a leg best chances are it will be fixed properly within Belize without putting me into Bankruptcy.

Dr al your predieliction for lumping all expats in any area of Belize as the same is usually in an offensive vein. as to the meits of Mexico you ae on the wrong site this is the site for "expats living in Belize" you are not that and have no ntetion of ever returning to that so go to the Mexico site and congratulate those expats on their wonderfiul choice of location,
just FYI The number of expats returning to the US from Mexico after 2 years is not that different to that of Belize but that is not relevant is it..

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/28/2017 16:02 EST

Here, Here and There, There terrific!!!

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katzgar
9/28/2017 16:39 EST

You are correct I have not I do not and I will not live in Belize. Health issues like diabetes and heart disease preclude that. The OPer wanted a beach to swim from and trying to compare the beach on Caulker with the beach on Palencia is no contest

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bobbyveee
9/28/2017 17:14 EST

Thank you Terrific for not including me and my wife who were long time expats and residents until 2015. Ive never spread doom and gloom , weve had a hand full of emails thanking us for our straightforward op[inions on areas we know, we dont offer stuff on what we dont. It still worrys us that certain people on here apart from Kats , who do not live , have not lived here think they are experts, vacationing here is very very different from living here. We love Belize, just so very worried the direction its headed, the GOB have a huge lot to answer for and if you read the daily news and see how the police and Gov. ministers are acting, they would be all jailed in a decent society. By the way, man made beaches last till the first storm, just saying !!

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/28/2017 18:31 EST

"see how the police and Gov. ministers are acting, they would be all jailed in a decent society."

LMAO..... What's your definition of a "Decent society"???? HaHaHa......if a "society" is judged by it's leaders, then you & I NO LONGER live in a "Decent Society." Sir. (End of political comments.)

I've never once claimed to be an expert on Belize, nor have I EVER told anyone posting on here what they should do, or where they should live. 95% of my posts have been calling out those on here who do that, and those who spread negativity, only because THEY don't think Belize is where anyone should live.

I certainly have never made claims to being an "expert" on anything Belize! You Sir have accused me of that, with no backing, just because I question certain comments made by you, and a couple other posters here.

I respect you and the fact you & your wife had to leave Belize due to her health issues. I hope she is doing well where you are now.

Wood houses only last until a natural disaster too, but folks still build them, and enjoy them until that were to happen, if ever! Your statement about CC's man-made beach only further indicates a negative attitude in your posts. Sure, no "doom & gloom", but neither does it offer anything positive about a venture on an island that is trying to make improvements for it's residents & visitor's. The next big storm could be decades away, so folks should not make positive improvements out of fear they may someday have to re-do them??? Not the best logic!

Again, my bringing up the Koko King Beach was in reference to your buddy who claimed there was "No Beach" on CC (before changing his mind, when caught in his deceit), not in reference to how long I believe it might be there.

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5allan1
9/28/2017 20:39 EST

There are no reliable stats on how many expats exit Belize or Mexico to return north. There are however at present, 1,000,000 USA expats in Mexico and approx 3000 in Belize. This is the lowest number of all major expat locations in the region. It is not useful to compare Belize with the USA or Canada but for wannabees its very helpful to compare Belize with other regional locations.
In this regard Belize falls short due to broad infrastructure issues, cost of living, telecommunication issues and poor to zero non basic health care.
These points are empirically derived. CC4M's points ( and their accolytes) are limbic derived- devoid of fact and high on hyperbole and ad hominem- classic Belizeophilic tripe- and thus of little value to newcomers.

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katzgar
9/28/2017 20:48 EST

If you're not an expert on things Belize then you need to quit posting

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terrific
9/28/2017 21:29 EST

Good idea Katzgar hope you take your own advice.

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bobbyveee
9/28/2017 21:31 EST

The only thing ive accused the two of you is not being a expat and actually living on the cayes or Belize, the 'other' two are nothing todo wioth me so please refrain from lumping us together with them . Kats has no real right to be making comments on here and the good Doc did live and work here for 5 yrs and still visits. Keep your powder dry until a real issue comes up, newbies telling expats how it is is not taken to heart and you can down load on Kats as much as you like, i just tell the truth, nothing more nothing less, as ive said before u get the good the bad and the ugly from me, never make stuff up, not opinions, facts as they were at the time or now. Leave us out of your squabbles, your not qualified to comment, in a few yrs maybe, your not stupid people, but this snipping doesnt show you in a good light. Enjoy CC

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terrific
9/28/2017 21:44 EST

BTW Brad taking a cab ti the doc if there is any delay through customs would not guarantee catching the last Ferry to San Ped anyway. At that time of night if all flights and ferry's gone it would be possibly better to just stay at the hotel at the end of the airport road. You can have a nights rest and get to think over the options for first thing in the morning. You might even opt to rent a car and drive through to Placencia/Hopkins in daylight,about a 3 hour drive. It is a plain fairly basic place, safe and clean. just to note, its 2 years since I needed a hotel by the airport and it was fine then. It is in Ladyville not Belize city.
oops for some reason this didn't send when i wrote it 2 days ago only and only realised when going through the thread, so have re done it. The thread seems to have developed a slight diversion on it from initial question. I do accept some responsibility for the diversion, not all.

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terrific
9/28/2017 22:58 EST

So Belize has only 3000 US expats, so non US expats don't count then.( thanks for that) Mexico is a tad bigger than Belize I think, which should explain at least a little of that difference. As some one else mentioned how many of them only intended to come for a couple of years.
So as you now say there is not a reliable or verifiable statistic as to how many expats change their mind and return to their homeland from anywhere so why have you quoted that "40 to 60% return" so many times.
I am happy to be an expat in Belize hopefully for many years untill Katzgar"s predicted Heart attack gets me. Or some family crisis occurs and i have no choice but to leave.
I Faithfully promise I will not spend the following years trying to show Belize only in a bad light to any persons who suggest they may be thinking of moving there. Or denigrating and insulting those that have chosen to live there.

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katzgar
9/29/2017 07:43 EST

"I am happy to be an expat in Belize hopefully for many years untill Katzgar"s predicted Heart attack gets me" I never predicted a heart attack did I? Why do you tell lies? I also characterized the 40%number as an estimate by expats, Bobby is the one that posited the 60% number but I did repeat it. Dont have to live there to know how bad things like the infrastructure and health care are. All you need to know is its a third world country, that tells the entire story. I have never once said do not move to Belize have I?

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katzgar
9/29/2017 07:49 EST

yes, stats on expats leaving Belize is anecdotal but when you hear them again and again you tend to accept them. Here is another guys take. https://billdoesbelize.com/people-leave-belize-not-always-paradise/

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LorraineWard12
9/29/2017 11:20 EST

Can we please put a stop to bashing and defensive responses
We are all adults here and can choose to ignore posts we don't like from the few that choose that approach. There will always be a few up happy people on any forum. It would be nice if we all shared helpful information. Even negative comments can be considered as ones personal experience or beliefs. I would imagine no one is making a decision to move to Belize on comments posted here alone.
I enjoy reading useful posts and have learned so much by joining this forum. Thanks to all who take the time to share valuable information. Looking forward to experiencing life on CC and learning first hand.

Peace LW

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bchipman87
9/29/2017 12:08 EST

Thank you!!! I couldn't agree more. If there are negatives it can be said in a constructive way instead of so hateful. This back and forth between negative and bashing and name calling is not helpful to people that are really trying to learn about the area and is way out of hand.

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terrific
9/30/2017 01:30 EST

katzgar
This is my last posting on this subject. No you did not say I personally would have a heart attack but on multiple occaisions have predicted if one has a heart attack in Belize one is likely to die. Also the number of people who do not remain as expats is anecdotal but the reason these claims are heard soooo often on this is because you keep repeating it at every opportunity. Why it is thought to be "advice" to those interested in possibly moving to Belize has always baffled me.
If you could learn the phrase "In my opinion" and use it when offering your thoughts then these sort of flame wars could be avoided. If we all could in fact it would calm things down.
OH please and do not accuse me of having any ulterior motives for any of my posts I am selling nothing, you do use that generalisation against many posters who question you. A lot.
I did not tell any lies in my post re read it then the explanation of my post you took offence at.
I have a bio anyone can read unlike your self. It is actually a good way to get some understanding of a poster and their possible reasons for using this forum I wish more people would take advantage of it..
Now back to normal questions and answers and points of view.
My appologies to all those who are bored to tears with all this.

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katzgar
9/30/2017 06:54 EST

I have never once predicted that you or anyone else would die from a heart attack in Belize your post is another lie.

The use of phrases like in my opinion or in my humble opinion is a sign of ignorance in that everything one says is one's opinion unless attribution is provided. You should have learned that in high school English.

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5allan1
9/30/2017 07:32 EST

Famous quotes:
Donald: "I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me.”
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Bill" I did not have sexual relations with that woman"
Richard" I am not a crook"
Terrific " This is my last posting on this subject"
:)

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CayeCaulker4Me
9/30/2017 11:18 EST

" I have never once predicted that you or anyone else would die from a heart attack in Belize your post is another lie.

The use of phrases like in my opinion or in my humble opinion is a sign of ignorance in that everything one says is one's opinion unless attribution is provided. You should have learned that in high school English."

Man, o man, you've got issues dude.

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katzgar
9/30/2017 11:54 EST

personal attacks because I am educated? Really?

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PolarBearKing
9/30/2017 22:51 EST

Wow, what a $#!t show!!!

I'm not quite sure why this went sideways on a thread that I started. But none of this is new. I've read the same things over and over on just about each and every thread here. Most of you guys sound like a broken record.

I would say more but I fear it would just fall on deaf ears. Welcome to the internet.

If I run into any of you down there, first round is on me.

PBK

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bradinbelize
10/2/2017 14:05 EST

PBK - You got the Belize Welcome without even coming. When all of this craziness starts, I tell new ex-pats "Welcome to Belize". Happy to help with an OBJECTIVE and real view - look at PM I sent you.

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