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pollokeeper
12/3/2014 13:52 EST

Most Xpats would not consider this seriously but I highly recommend considering buying a motorscooter! Now, this would depend on where you live. If you live in an área where traffic is not bad this is a great idea. Motorscooters are fairly cheap to buy and maintenance is also very cheap. I know, this is not a good idea for everyone. But, I have been using motorscooters for the last 5 years here and it has been a very positive experience. I rarely if ever ride in a car or bus. Try it. You might like it.

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panamajames
12/3/2014 23:51 EST

I just want to mention, that during my trip to South America, I am staying in a place called Piriapolis Uruguay, and I have never seen so many motor scooters in all my life. And they shop with them and have carts to tow behind them. It is the most common method of getting around town. I have to agree with pollokeeper. There is not a helmet to be seen here, but that is Uruguay.........not Panama.

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pollokeeper
12/4/2014 11:10 EST

The scooter lifestyle is very difficult for US citizens to embrace. We feel that we are entitled to a car for every US citizen. Europeans are more open to the scooter lifestyle since they have 8 dollar per gallon gasolina. The US attitude will change when the US loses its current global Reserve Currency status in the future(probably 5 years away). I have decided to get used to it sooner than later. The scooter lifestyle is fun. Embrace it. Feel the breeze in your face. Its Panama. Take it easy.

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tjo50511
12/4/2014 11:37 EST

Here in Indiana motorscooters with a motor of 50cc do not require a license or insurance. How are they treated in Panama?

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shawnnn
12/4/2014 11:40 EST

YES FOR SURE buy a motorscooter and also for sure BUY HEALTH INSURANCE in case of an accident.
My neighbor was so proud of his new moto but when he ran off the road missing a curve on the way to Boquette he was lucky to be alive. Moto totalled and so was he. 6 month later still getting therapy.

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pollokeeper
12/4/2014 12:33 EST

For those of you that believe that using a scooter for transportation is too risky, then you should not buy one. If you have a car license here you can drive a motorcycle. 50 cc scooters are very useful here and parking is a snap. Really saves on those pesky cab and bus fares.

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pollokeeper
12/4/2014 17:01 EST

I have seen the Kymco Agility 50cc step thru scooter for sale here new for only 1200 bucks in Las Tablas. This scooter has a max speed of about 30 mph and is perfect for anyone who lives in or around a quiet community to use as casual transportation. Probably get 75 mpg. Pretty cool.

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Oldcameraman
12/4/2014 18:56 EST

Yes indeed, the motor scooter lifestyle is fun and exhilarating. We had a small motorcycle when we lived in Pakistan. We were in our 20s and survived.

I'm not at all sure that now that I am 67, I would feel comfortable driving a 2 wheeler in Panama. First of all because we see very few of them. Why? Several possibilities : Dangerous traffic, distances to travel, higher possibility of serious accidents. etc. If you live in a small, peaceful urban area (I understand that there are a few of those somewhere) then by all means, a motor scooter or motor bike is a great idea. If however, you live in a non-urban area like our area of Panama which involves a lot of highway driving, I'm not interested in risking whatever is left of my life on the roads/traffic here.

I encourage those in smaller, quieter urban areas to choose small motorized transportation though ! We really were happy driving our motorbike in Panama - at least until my wife fell ill with amoebic dysentery and we needed to get a kinder, gentler transportation mode.

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panamajames
12/4/2014 19:56 EST

Motor bikes and scooters in areas like Boquete and Volcan are great, in town, because the parking is horrendous sometimes, and you can park a scooter almost anywhere. The traffic is mostly slow moving, so it is perfect scooter country. You have to be careful on gravel roads when braking. We had some tenants do a gravel slide together and had to be patched up for a month, with road rash injuries. Here in Punta Del Este in Uruguay, gasoline is over $2 a litre, where in Boquete, it is about 85 cents a litre. Expensive gasoline brings out the scooter enthusiasts.

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pollokeeper
12/4/2014 22:05 EST

Lots of great points on motorscooter uses and benefits. Another great benefit is that motorscooters are very cheap in Panama to maintain. Parts aren't cheap for name Brand motorscooters like Yamaha but the labor is extremely cheap. I was paying 80 dollars per hour to have my scooter serviced in the US. Here, it is more like 5 bucks per hour, making scooters the cheapest mode of travel in panamá with the exception of walking!!!! Think scooters.

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gittemohr
12/5/2014 00:16 EST

No one mentioned Scooter theft.
I wonder if it isn't better to rent a scooter with full Insurance coverage? Anyone knows anything about cost?

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pollokeeper
12/5/2014 15:21 EST

Typically, motorscooters are not rented here. Maybe in Pedasi they might have some for rent by the day. If you were going to live in Panama for a year for example, you could buy a scooter for less than 1500 dollars and then sell it very easily for half what you paid for it. It would be worth more than that so it would sell quickly. Used scooters can also be bought here. Thats the best idea.

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panamajames
12/5/2014 16:05 EST

In Boquete you can rent scooters by the day, but after a month you practically own it. Best to buy one and resell it, if possible, new or used, if staying for an extended stay.

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GlamBabe
12/5/2014 20:31 EST

I haven't seen anyone on a scooter here in Coronado or in San Carlos, what about the exhaust from the diesel vehicles? I think that would be difficult for people with asthma etc.

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panamajames
12/5/2014 20:34 EST

Terrible roads in the areas of Coronado and San Carlos. You want nice roads if you are a bike or scooter rider like I am. A place that has new roads will attract bike and scooter riders.

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pollokeeper
12/5/2014 20:39 EST

I remember once, while riding my scooter, I got too close to a big truck. The diesel smoke was so bad I had to pull over and smoke a cigarette. I got over it though. Be careful out there!

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panamajames
12/5/2014 20:47 EST

If you are planning on getting a motor scooter around Coronado, you had better invest in a gas mask as well. Not a lot of fresh country air in that place......

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karenmmm
12/6/2014 21:27 EST

I too know of that older gent. Passed by his bike often at the condo.
Had a taxi in Marbella make a U turn and drop me on my bike about 35 years ago. I returned home to the states and sold me nearly new Honda 750 for 1000 dollars.
Been driving big heavy 4X4s for decades. Learned the hard way.

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pollokeeper
12/6/2014 21:43 EST

There are risks associated with using a scooter or motorcycle. Do a risk assessment of the área you live in before deciding on buying and using a scooter. Its a personal decisión. Everything we do in life life usually requires some kind of risk. Decide for yourself. For example, I live in the Las Tablas área. Traffic is light in Las Tablas. I decided that this área was a good place to enjoy riding a motorcycle. I could have an accident tomorrow. People get killed in cars, buses, and also pedestrians get killed as well as on motorcycles. If you feel that motorcycles are too dangerous than you certainly should move on to the next thread. Thats your business.
We could also die from a mosquito bite here in Panama. Or, we could catch any number of deseases here that could kill us. Why would we want to live in Panama with such risks inherent in living in Panama? Again, its a personal decisión and we decide whether to subject ourselves to such risk. As long as I am alive, I plan to try my best not to be overly concerned about every moderate risk that I incur while trying to live well. Its just not my style. Riding a motor scooter is economical but most important its fun. Its a great lifestyle. Embrace it. Become scooter trash. You will love it.

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pollokeeper
12/6/2014 22:24 EST

Panama City offers many different scooter choices. Prices here on most brands are very affordable. If you can afford it I highly recommend the Yamaha BWS 125. I have been riding one for over 4 years here in Panama. No breakdowns. I use it daily. Very stable, extremely easy to drive, very good braking, keeps up with traffic with ease, has storage, rides well with a passenger. And, the damn thing looks great. There is only one Yamaha BWS 125 in Las Tablas right now, and, its mine. 75 mpg doesn't hurt either. Riding this baby to the beach on Sundays is a blast!!!

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pollokeeper
12/6/2014 22:25 EST

Panama City offers many different scooter choices. Prices here on most brands are very affordable. If you can afford it I highly recommend the Yamaha BWS 125. I have been riding one for over 4 years here in Panama. No breakdowns. I use it daily. Very stable, extremely easy to drive, very good braking, keeps up with traffic with ease, has storage, rides well with a passenger. And, the damn thing looks great. There is only one Yamaha BWS 125 in Las Tablas right now, and, its mine. 75 mpg doesn't hurt either. Riding this baby to the beach on Sundays is a blast!!!

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Richardwhiteman
12/7/2014 09:04 EST

Where is the best place to buy a Yamaha scooter or other in P.C.?

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pollokeeper
12/7/2014 09:41 EST

If you decide on a Yamaha there is a dealer on Calle 50 in PC. I bought mine there in 2010. A BWS 125 cost me 2600 dollars then, including tax, tags and a helmet. It will cost more today but I don't know how much.

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karenmmm
12/7/2014 10:21 EST

I'm a former US Naval Officer, and federal service academy grad.

Please spare me the lecture of risks while you cruise the town on your 70 cc Dax, chicken man.

My decision to ride a big bike was the norm for someone in their mid 20s and had nothing to do with budget.

Sorry that you can't afford the 4X4.

I still enjoy taking risks, but only where there's substantial reward in the equation.

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pollokeeper
12/7/2014 10:37 EST

I don't care what you did when you used to work or how much risk you used to take sir, or maam or who ever you are. If you don't want to ride a scooter than don't do it. Go to a different thread and molest someone else. You are a loser and no one gives a damn why you don't like scooters and insist on riding gas guzzling 4x4's.

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karenmmm
12/7/2014 10:46 EST

You posed many questions in your response to me and I answered them.

My reply is on point, chicken man.

I'm certain we're all losers when measured against your wonderful accomplishments.

1) Own and ride a 125cc motor bike

2) tend chickens professionally

I can only assume you attended chicken tending university??

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pollokeeper
12/7/2014 10:54 EST

The name of this thread is "buy a motorscooter!" You obviously don't like motorscooters and you knew this before opening this thread. Did you come on this thread and post with the sole intention of being an ass? You have a big ego sir. You falsely believe that anyone cares why you don't like motorscooters and choose to ride 4x4's. You accomplished your goal sir. You are an ass and now everyone knows it. Thanx for posting sir and please enjoy your 4x4.

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2FollowHim
7/24/2017 18:03 EST

Can you buy, use electric scooters in David? How hard is it to get a licence to drive gas scooter in David? Am 70, didn't need a car? Thanks.

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2FollowHim
7/24/2017 18:04 EST

Wonderful, but alright in David?
Pedals is quieter?

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