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nelsonokelmgmailcom
7/30/2018 11:12 EST

I have my permenante. I will be transporting a trailer load of furniture and household goods through Nogales. I seem to recall that there is a one time exemption to move tour goods across the border. Can anyone fill me in on details? There is a Mexican consulate in Denver. Could they provide such a document? Thanks in advance.

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RVGRINGO

From: Mexico
7/30/2018 11:47 EST

Consulates may be able to approve you for a visa, but the visa process continues in Mexico with immigration authorities (INM). Similarly, Aduana (customs) handles imports of your property. These agencies do not coordinate, or even communicate.
So, you will have to look into the rules and laws for each separate agency.
You may not bring in a foreign plated vehicle to Mexico, so I hope your vehicle and trailer are Mexican plated, as required by your Residente Permanente visa.
Or, instead of transporting it yourself, did you mean that you were shipping a trailer load by commercial carriers?

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NA
7/30/2018 12:11 EST

You are allowed to bring your used household goods without paying an import tax. Your nearest Mexican consulate will give you the info you need for a Menaje de Casa. Instructions will be in Spanish though. Among other things, you have to create a list of what each of the moving boxes contains, take it to the nearest Mexican consulate to get it approved, and hire a customs broker to get your stuff across the border. Everything that plugs into a wall has to include manufacturer, model and serial number and has to be at the top of the list. I am hiring the Moving to Mexico Guy to take care of everything. He will also help you with the list if you are unable to write it in Spanish. He hires the customs broker, gets your stuff across the border, and hires a moving truck to move your stuff to any city in Mexico. It is expensive. If you have stuff that fits in your own vehicle, you may not need to do all this, except for the menaje list.

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NA
7/30/2018 12:16 EST

I forgot to ask you if you are bringing your own trailer. If not, and your stuff does not fill up a 48 footer, I am looking for someone to share a 48-ft trailer with to lower the cost. My stuff will only use half of the space.

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nelsonokelmgmailcom
7/30/2018 12:58 EST

I am purchasing a trailer to haul stuff down to Puerto Vallarta.

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longtimelurker
7/30/2018 13:58 EST

How long have you been a RP?

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longtimelurker
7/30/2018 13:58 EST

How long have you been a RP?

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YellowTail
7/30/2018 14:09 EST

I'm sure all these nice people are a lot smarter than I but I will share my personal experience. It is free so take it for what it is worth...

We had our menaje approved on the same day we picked up our RP approvals from the consulate. It was a long day. There was a cost at the consulate for the menaje. I kind of followed the advice from the old Rolly Brooke website - but I don;t think I valued things. I did have English and Spanish translations.

For us anyway - you can drive a US plated vehicle (and trailer) until the day INM hands you your green plastic card. Even then - if you are in the process of importing your car (using a professional broker), they will give you enough proof that you will not run into trouble if stopped.

Importing a US plated car is not cheap (the trailer was a lot cheaper). Aduana hit us up for more money at the border even though we had an approved menaje - and didn't have but 3/4 of the stuff listed in the trailer. They asked me to open the trailer and take out a few boxes (which they opened to find things like plates wrapped in towels). But they did not have me unpack the trailer - and I did not use a broker.

Hope this helps.

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YellowTail
7/30/2018 14:15 EST

I considered sharing a trailer when we made our move - but I was told that there was no co-mingling of belongings allowed. That made it prohibitively expensive for us. I didn't pursue the idea deeply - but I think I heard it more than once.

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nelsonokelmgmailcom
7/30/2018 15:36 EST

Thanks! My Suburban has MX plates. I will talk to the broker that helped my process my vehicle in 2013.

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YellowTail
7/30/2018 15:46 EST

Well for me that raises an interesting question. Is there a statute of limitations on how long you can ask for a menaje AFTER relocating to Mexico ?

I understood the real purpose behind menajes was to allow Mexicans who needed to leave Mexico for work related purposes the ability to return their household goods to Mexico without being taxed. Seems like that purpose has morphed over time.

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RVGRINGO

From: Mexico
7/30/2018 16:17 EST

Great! Your Suburban is Mexican and you are RP. However, you will have to import the trailer and probably use a broker, as you know.
Have a good trip.
Oh.....be sure to have a spare wheel and tire, with a jack, for the trailer. Such things as 'trailer tires' are hard to find in Mexico.

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longtimelurker
7/30/2018 16:38 EST

There is a time limit on receiving a Menje de casa. I believe it is 1 year.

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NA
7/30/2018 19:42 EST

Anyone moving to Mexico can apply for a Menaje de Casa. Once the paperwork is approved by the consulate, Mexicans have 6 months to bring their stuff into Mexico; others have only 60 or 90 days - I can’t remember. It only took a couple of hours to get it approved.

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