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rjltoo
6/2/2019 21:11 EST

Obviously, opinions will vary, but I am just beginning my research regarding the Lake Chapala area. I get so many mixed messages.

I am looking for an unvarnished opinion about being an American ex-pat there, and specifically, an African-American expat, the subject of race has not been addressed anywhere I've looked re: Chapala, though others on the expat list definitely belong in the category of beware.

I guess one of the most revealing answers would be to: would you do it again? I know familiarity, obligation, etc. can make one stay wherever one is, but given the choice without restriction?

And answers to the standard would be appreciated. Rental housing, not looking to buy; water; costs; safety - specifically, will I have to live in a gated community; and any other opinions/advice you might have to offer. Thanks!

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rmajijic
6/3/2019 09:21 EST

You are right in saying that opinions vary. As there are so many different people in the world with different opinions, there will always be some that like Lake Chapala, some that don't and some in-between. You're best bet is to come for a visit and see for yourself if it appeals to you. I would recommend a couple weeks.
There are no 'race' issues here. There are people here from all over the world with different skin colors along with gay and lesbians and there simple does not appear to be any hostility towards anyone.
You do not have to live in a gated community unless you so desire. It is safe here but protections (as in high walls, barbed wire, etc) is common to prevent burglary.
Rent (depends a bit where you live) is about $900 USD on average for 1 year lease (2 bedroom/2 bath).
Water is safe to drink ONLY when filtered and many homes will have filtration systems OR if not, then you'll need to use bottled water.
Living in Lake Chapala is a bit different than living in the U.S, or Canada and there are certainly things to get used to but it's one of the easiest places to ex-pat to with a large built in support network.
Is it for everyone? Of course not but you would do yourself a disservice if you didn't come see for yourself.
I have loads of information on my website RetireInLakeChapala.net containing all the good/bad and ugly in living in Lake Chapala. You are welcome to contact me for more information about any topic.

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MsAlex
6/14/2019 19:08 EST

My website, HouseSitMexico.com, frequently has opportunities to house sit in the Lake Chapala area. There are two right now (including one for Christmas-January). We usually have at least several, but it's a bit of a lull at the moment.

House sitting is a great way to experience an area to see if it's right for you -- and actually figure out even the fine-line details of where in the region specifically you'd prefer. And you can do it without paying rent or a big hotel bill. See HOW IT WORKS at housesitmexico.com/start-here/.

Feel free to PM me if I can help.

:) Alex

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MrsJaneSimmondsPhD
6/22/2019 11:55 EST

I am a lesbian woman who will be moving near there with my partner / my wife and my four adopted daughters all under 5 years old. I am retired and my partner is retired. She is 67 years old. I'm 59 years old.

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MrsJaneSimmondsPhD
6/22/2019 14:35 EST

i sent you a PM

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RVGRINGO
6/22/2019 18:16 EST

The suggestions to visit are appropriate, as is the mention of there being little attention paid to race. However, there is more prejudice than most expats recognize, particularly among the different ethnicities found in Mexico, where color differences are the first indication of indigenous heritage, rather than European/Spanish/Moorish, etc. In speaking, Mexicans refer to people by description, or by descriptive nicknames, like "Gordo" for a fat guy, etc. There is no use of "African-American", that I ever heard in Spanish. You would simply be referred to as. "el negro", or "la negra", if your name was not known, or just to differentiate you from someone else, without any malicious or racial intent to slur you. They are just openly frank about such matters. I don't recall seeing many, if any, such people at Lake Chapala, but I am sure there were some. I just did not notice, or care. So, I guess that the answer to your inquiry may lie in your own reaction to the cultural differences, expressions, and also to your sense of humor.
So, You asked, and there you have it, with no dancing around the subject. Make a visit, keep a smile on your face, and enjoy it all. Mexico is a very friendly place for visitors.

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GwyyneddOES
6/22/2019 20:12 EST

I have never lived in Lake Chapala. Sorry.

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rmajijic
6/22/2019 21:28 EST

Le lac Chapala est un endroit merveilleux pour vivre et élever des enfants. Comment pouvons-nous vous aider?

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MrsJaneSimmondsPhD
6/22/2019 23:15 EST

Bonjour comment allez-vous aujourd'hui. Mon partenaire et moi sommes tous deux lesbiennes au rouge à lèvres. Nous avons adopté quatre filles originaires de Syrie. Leur famille d'origine a été tuée par des engins piégés. Ils ont été emmenés par leur bus, à l'exception de nos filles, qui ont été tuées. Notre aînée est Jasmine Anna, âgée de 4 ans. Les jumelles ont 3 ans, Lily Carol, Violet Amber et la plus jeune, Rose Jillian, 3 ans. Mon partenaire et moi sommes le premier couple international de même sexe à être marié aux États-Unis. Elle est originaire de Kingston, au Canada, et de West Seattle, dans l'État de Washington, aux États-Unis, à plus de 4 900 km l'un de l'autre et de trois fuseaux horaires. Nous avons daté par Facebook et Skype. Nous nous sommes mariés il y a plus de 6 ans. Je suis retraité de l'armée américaine et d'un retraité des jeux Microsoft, écrivain. J'ai encaissé dans mon 401K ROTH IRA et maintenant nous essayons de déménager au Mexique, mais nous ne voulons pas en profiter. Nous recherchons un 3 chambres, 2 salles de bain. Nous en cherchions un et ils voulaient un dépôt d'un mois de loyer en dollars américains pour un montant total de 6 000 $ dans un mandat que nous enverrions sans document. Mais nous sommes à Toronto ONT Canada. La météo est l’une des raisons pour lesquelles nous nous sommes déplacés l’hiver dernier, il est descendu à -49C soit -56.2F et j’ai des articulations très fragiles. Alors pourriez-vous nous aider. . .
Hola cómo estás hoy. Mi pareja y yo somos lesbianas de lápiz labial. Adoptamos a cuatro niñas de Siria. Su familia biológica fue asesinada por IED en su autobús, todas ellas 60, menos nuestras hijas fueron asesinadas. Nuestra mayor es de 4 años, Jasmine Anna, las gemelas son Lily Carol de 3 años y Violet Amber, y la menor es Rose Jillian de 3 años. Mi pareja y yo somos la primera pareja internacional del mismo sexo en casarnos en los Estados Unidos. Ella es de Kingston Ont Canada, soy de West Seattle, WA, EE. UU., Con más de 4,900 KM de diferencia entre sí y tres zonas horarias, Fechamos por Facebook y Skype. Nos casamos hace más de 6 años, me retiré del Ejército de los EE. UU. Y soy un escritor retirado de Microsoft, escritor. Cobré mi cuenta 401K ROTH IRA y ahora estamos tratando de mudarnos a México, pero no queremos aprovecharnos. Estamos buscando un baño de 3 habitaciones y 2 baños. Estábamos buscando uno y querían el primero y el último, y un depósito de un mes de alquiler, todo en fondos de EE. UU. Por un total de $ 6,000 en un giro postal que enviaríamos sin documentación al final. Pero ahora estamos en Toronto, ONT Canadá. El clima es una de las razones por las que nos mudamos el invierno pasado, se redujo a -49 ° C, que es -56.2F y tengo uniones muy frágiles. Entonces, ¿podrías ayudarnos?

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rmajijic
6/23/2019 08:41 EST

Good morning. It is common for landlords to want first and last months rent plus damage deposit, therefore, $6000 dollars might be the correct amount for what you were looking at.
Is there any way that one of you can come down and look at the rentals in person? Then you know exactly what you are getting and in what location.
Here is a link with all the rental agencies and rental companies and more where you can find rentals in Ajijic. All the links are provided and you just need to search. Renting through the agencies and real estate companies is quite safe. Renting through Facebook Pages a little more risky if you are going to rent it from Canada without seeing it and the owners first.
Best of luck
https://www.retireinlakechapala.net/single-post/2017/08/17/Ajijic-Rentals-Where-To-Find-Rentals-in-Ajijic

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