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Tambopaxi replied to the thread Best President of Ecuador on the Ecuador forum on October 21, 2014:
windshadow initially posted:
Who was the best President Ecuador has ever had?
Tambopaxi replied 3 minutes ago with:
Boatmax, You mean Osvaldo Hurtado, who was Jaime Roldos' VP, and succeeded Roldos when he was killed in a plane crash in 1981. Hurtado's best-known book in English is "Portrait of a Nation", which is on Kindle. I think Correa has been the best President to date, although I don't like the guy - but that's for another post...
remoore2001 replied 1 hour ago with:
How do you expect most of us to be able to answer this. Probably 90% of people on this sight have only been here during Correas reign.
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Willie replied to the thread Inland Fishing on the Ecuador Welcome Forum forum on October 21, 2014:
GringoAfortunado initially posted:
Fly fisherman here, hoping to retire to Cuenca area in the near future and interested in knowing what the fishing opportunities are. Are those lakes visible in the Cajas on google satellite fishable? Thanks. (N.b.: LuckyDog is no longer, per advice of online veterans.)
Willie replied 2 hours ago with:
Trout were introduced to the fine rivers of Chile and Argentina in the 1st decade of the 1900's . The browns and rainbows thrived and multiplied mainly because of a fresh water crab called a Pancora in Argentina . Also strict laws and regulations kept people from over fishing and the use of explosives . Money was spent to keep the rivers clean and people to enforce the laws and regulations . I spent a month 35 years ago fly fishing these beautiful rivers and will never forget the wonderful experiences I had . Unfortunately Ecuador lacks the interest to develop this sport . Hopefully this will change as fly fishing can certainly bring in good tourists with money to spend and could provide many jobs in the field . Thank you , Willie
GringoAfortunado replied 8 hours ago with:
Wow! I'll be right there!
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lauraazelie initially posted:
Hi, So, I am coming to Ecuador with 2 other people from October 1-27. We will first be in Cuenca, then head to Vilcabamba around the 14th. We are looking for property to create a selfsustaining community. Right now we are also looking for people with certain skill sets that want to belong to a community. Here they are: Detailed Computer/electronic/mechanically inclined inventor: Living Food Chef person – who is crazy great with anything that has to do with food. Building/designing/landscaping/gardening type person If you fit any of these descriptions and are interested in what I have presented here, contact me back on this forum or at We would like to scheduele a meeting with you when we are in Ecuador. Thanks -Laura
iguanab1 replied 2 hours ago with:
I never looked into either rentals or shared housing. However, I was told that there were rentals in the $200/mo range. Good luck in your search!
nancylaleau replied 2 hours ago with:
Sounds good... I've been wondering where I'm going to retire for a while, and was looking at Cuenca (where I have lived in the past), but the climate and altitude are a bit much for me... I could adapt I guess but if there's an alternative (besides the coast) I'd like to check it out. What's the situation on shared housing or rentals in Vilcabamba? -nancy l.
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boatmax replied to the thread Real Estate Report - Atacames / Tonsupa on the Ecuador forum:
HGQ2112 initially posted:
I generally release extremely condensed excerpts from real estate country analysis reports on July 1, 2012, for public consumption. This year, business matters and various personal matters have kept me from being punctual. Utilizing the better late than never theory, I offer them as segmented summaries, with each city having its own thread. I wanted to present them in one Ecuador thread, but it would be huge. Frankly, many people won’t even read them and those that do will likely want to focus on one or two cities. I would say that this format will cause folks to have to “hunt and peck” for data, but I still deemed it the lesser of two evils. This data is presented only for those who have an interest in their real estate purchase, also being an investment asset. For those just looking to buy a pretty house, no point in reading further. The perspectives shared are not for every buyer. Some have different motivations for their purchase, besides sound investing, and those perspectives should be equally respected. We have a simple system for rating a locale: Sell - We recommend selling your asset or portfolio as quickly as possible. Hold - If you have bought already, hang onto the asset and wait for further market developments. If you have not bought already, then do not buy now, but perhaps begin to look around for future opportunities. Buy - Means that it is a good time to acquire an initial or additional real estate asset in that sub-market, due to favorable long-term market trends. Strong Buy - Means that an exceptional market opportunity exists and that the time is right for the immediate consideration of an initial or additional real estate asset acquisition in this sub-market. For those looking at portfolio diversity, spreading assets across “strong buy” markets is advised, prior to focusing on “buy” markets, if investment opportunities is your sole or primary reason for purchasing real estate. We also employ two trending systems. The first is an upward mobility and downward mobility system intended to dictate if this property market is in an upswing or downswing from the last time we reported on it. Upswing markets will be denoted by an ? and downswing markets by a ?. Also, we place certain markets “on watch”. This is neither a necessarily good or bad thing, but a caution that a pending review to upgrade or downgrade the market is imminent. We try our best to project whether that review is likely to be positive or negative, but some market dynamics are so complex that this projection is not always 100% accurate. it should be used for guidance and not as statements of certainty. Without further is data for the market you selected to view: Atacames/Tonsupa Buy ? This year has led to several rare exceptions in our market reports. Chalk it up to global real estate market instabilities and extremely complex macro and micro economic dynamics throughout the globe. Even then, Atacames/Tonsupa holds the special distinction of being notable for two, not one, rare exceptions. First, I seldom, link two markets together, even when there is a strong symbiotic relationship, such as Salinas/Punta Blanca, Montañita/Olon, or Vilcabamba/Loja. I also very seldom upgrade or downgrade a region by more than one category from one year to the next. Atacames/Tonsupa is definitely a rare exception and I will explain why. First, the issue of linkage. I tried to justify considering these markets on a separate level, but it was near impossible. To the point that listing them together actually gave a representative analysis that was more accurate, than looking at them separately. I simply cannot see a circumstance where the market impact in one of these cities will not greatly impact the other, almost to an exact same degree. I will explain. Atacames has become a vacation/ commercial destination. I have already referred to it as “Montañita for adults” and that is not too inaccurate a broad description. People go to Atacames to have fun...escape...relax. They come mostly from Quito. They go to Atacames for little else, unless you want to be a business owner, who purchases one of the establishments where people go to have fun...escape...relax. However, unlike in Montañita, where despite a hospitality industry pushed to its limits, there is sufficient room availability for the masses, Atacames does not have the hospitality capacity to accommodate. They also offer only a handful of high-rise residential buildings along the beach strip, where additional rentals can be found. So, where are the rentals? Yep...Tonsupa. Tonsupa has almost no commercial establishments to speak of...but it is high-rise row along the coast. In fact, only Salinas has more coastal high-rises. Yes...I realize Manta exists. I will say it again, I am talking smack dab beachfront...only Salinas has more coastal high-rises. For the Atacames commercial strip to survive, it must rely on its nearby neighbor to the north to help house the tourists and I doubt that as many buyers/renters would be arriving in Tonsupa, if not for the festivities offered in Atacames. The linkage is virtually unbreakable. The Atacames/Tonsupa area also holds the distinction of moving up from a “sell” to a “buy” in only one short year. This truly hinges on one major comparative variable, but is worth analyzing in some detail. Atacames/Tonsupa are located in Esmeraldas Province. Esmeraldas Province has amongst the highest per capita crime rates in Ecuador. Unfortunately, this transcends even to violent crime categories. This sole variable has impeded us from moving the area up from a “sell” to even a “hold” in recent years. Two variables have changed that. One, Ecuador as a whole, with the Esmeraldas region being a beneficiary, has been improving its law-enforcement operations both quantitatively and qualitatively. It was visible on recent trips to the Esmeraldas area, where I saw a greater police presence, serving as a more visible deterrent than at any point in the past. While this may take a few years to penetrate crime statistics, I believe it is a defined trend, in the right direction. Second, it has become impossible to ignore the increased tourism in that area and the increased funding coming largely from Quito to expand the area further. The incoming rush of cash is no longer knocking on the proverbial Atacames/Tonsupa door, it is kicking it in with force. Impossible at this point to ignore that while trailing statistics are going to show a high per capita crime rate, the rend for additional law enforcement is a positive one and that the native Ecuadorian population seems to enjoy the region, be unconcerned with the “possible dangers” and are more than willing to commit investment capital to its future growth. Combine that with some fantastic beaches, solid residential development projects in Tonsupa, and some very entertaining commercial establishments in is a recipe for success. I am afraid that the Atacames/Tonsupa region has already become what Bahia de Caraquez still continues to dream it wants to be - the vacation resort for the Quito set. It is impossible to ignore this locale as an investment market for our clientele. However, caveat emptor. If you know you have a low tolerance for ugly looking crime stats, avoid this place like the plague (You know who your are). For the rest of you, the Atacames/Tonsupa stretch is one of the most exciting growth opportunity stories in Ecuador and if you shop right, there are plenty of value opportunities also available. Hector G. Quintana “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” -- George Orwell, “1984”
boatmax replied 3 hours ago with:
Hector, thank you for the very long and so very accurate report on the Atacames/Tonsupa area. There is Costanueva in between,maybe worth.looking at, but hard to find. Personally I have a unique situation where I bought just ahead of the market boom in Tonsupa, which has been the secret playground.of the wealthy from Quito, and never advertised. There are several new condo complexes nearing completion, with sale prices 50% higher than my new condo, thus making my condo value much higher. I am realizing a 30% higher value already this year and expecting a full 50% by the end of the year.
HGQ2112 replied on October 20, 2014 with:
Not opinion - statistical crime date fact. Sorry if reality intrudes on your misperceptions, but perhaps if you had asked politely, rather than express unfounded resentment, my reply might have been different.
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remoore2001 replied to the thread Air quality in Cuenca on the Ecuador forum on October 21, 2014:
MauriceRheaume initially posted:
A friend of mine was in Quito a few years ago and complained about the quality of the air. It seems cars have no anti-pollution devices. I would like to have comments on this. Thanks for your concern.
remoore2001 replied 6 hours ago with:
Again, technology. European busses are outfitted with up to date technology in their diesel injection systems. Every thing is computerized. They have sensors that measure barometric pressure, throttle position, speed etc. When these readings are put together the computer delivers the optimum amount of fuel. They also have catalytic converters that burn unburned fuels. Busses in most of south America have the old mechanical injection system. Simply, the harder you press on the gas the more fuel is delivered. It's much more complicated than what I've explained but that is the simple answer.
ecuadorjoe replied 7 hours ago with:
That is very true, however can anyone explain to me why I do not see and breath the black smoke and crud I see and felt in Quito when I go back to Stuttgart or other places in Germany.
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windshadow replied to the thread Blind American on disability, is Ecuador a good location? on the Ecuador forum on October 21, 2014:
blindave13 initially posted:
I am 43 years old and almost totally blind. I am very unhappy in the states and I'm trying to find a place to live that would be welcoming and fordable. I live on about $1300 a month in Social Security disability and would like to be able to hire someone to help me out from time to time. Is Ecuador a good place and where should I go, I have heard of a few towns that have a lot of Americans, so I am thinking somewhere like that would be ideal.
windshadow replied 15 hours ago with:
I am sorry to hear that you are unhappy. Ecuador is a place. It in itself does not provide happiness. As matter of fact, it can really depress those whom are vulnerable. For your own mental well being don't try running from your problems. Try solving your unhappiness first, then look and feel for a new place to reside.
SWIRLZ replied on October 20, 2014 with:
The country has made strides with access for the handicapped, but are a long way from US standards. This isn't Kansas and unfortunately at this point in time it PROBABLY would not be for you.
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alvintx posted When is it most humidest in Salinas? on the Ecuador forum on October 20, 2014:
Would like to visit Salinas and surrounding areas when it is the most humid-est. I don't like humidity which keeps me away from Malaysia and Thailand. I would like to experience the most humidity (foul weather in my mind) that Salinas has to offer. If I can like it then it would be great. So what time of the year is best to experience the most damp and humid Salinas? BTW I live near Houston, TX where it is very humid. Lived here for many years and still hate the humidity. Thanks in advance for your thoughtful and kind replies and best wishes.
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alvintx posted Indian (East Indian) and Russian grocery stores on the Ecuador forum on October 20, 2014:
Where in Ecuador can one purchase Indian (East Indian) OR Russian groceries? City names? Details? She likes to cook Russian and Indian food. He likes to eat it to keep her happy. Seriously thinking of moving in Ecuador in a few years (exploratory trips being planned within a year). However we would like to know where basic ingredients (spices, wheat flour, rice, rice flour) can be most successfully purchased. Hard to know this when you are a tourist, hence this question to nicer people living there at present. Any enticing and yummy answers are welcome. Of course ... yes we would also cook Ecuadorian food, whatever it is ... but we don't know what it is just yet and I am sure I don't need to ask in an forum for that information ... will find that out sonn enough after landing in Ecuador. However if you can tell us what Ecuadorians eat and tell us someplace in Houston (TX) where we can try it then by all means tell us and we would love to try it with pleasure. Thanks in advance for your kind and considerate replies, and best wishes to you.
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ecuadorjoe posted Island Estates on the Ecuador forum on October 20, 2014:
Hello all, one question first. Has anyone dealt with the above mentioned company? If so what was your experience? I was told that my total expenses would be $ 700.per month and I would have to pay 2 months down. As it turned out once we got to Salinas they wanted 3 months or they would not unlock the door to the apartment. Now two moths later I found out that I have to pay additional expenses for water, gas and light. But I am not responsible for TV Cable or internet. According to the contract, which I received a copy of in Quito via email but it was unreadable. So, the owner give a copy of the contract. Please be careful when dealing with the above mentioned company.
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GillyJose replied to the thread Esmeraldas Log on the Ecuador forum:
DUNMOVN initially posted:
A friend and I just spent one week in Esmeraldas, Atacames and Tonsupa and here is my take for those considering this coastal area as a place to live. 1. Esmeraldas is not on the coast, it is about 20 miles inland and you have to take buses or taxi to the beach town, which is Atacames. 2. Esmeraldas gets about 5 months of rain a year and not just gentle spring rains, but real gully washers. Other than the main streets, which are sort of paved, the side streets and shoulders of the main streets are dirt and the whole place is a mud hole. But after the rains and mud dries up, you can imagine the dust clouds from driving in dry muddy streets. 3. The city makes no attempt to clean the streets and a half-hearted attempt to collect garbage. In the six days we were in the city, I saw garbage being collected once and it piles up everywhere. In Cuenca for example the street sweepers work 7 days a week and garbage is collected 3 times a week. 4. Atacames, the beach town reminds me of Atlantic City NJ, of 40 years ago. The beach is filthy as is the sand and I saw no effort to clean it. But that is the same everywhere in coastal Ecuador. Pristine is not a word to use in describing Ecuador’s beaches. 5. Tonsupa has been touted as a garden spot, but other than a couple of high rises on the beach, there is not much else. Two blocks away, are dirt streets and residents living in shacks, which in many cases had no doors or windows. Ditto for Atacames and Esmeraldas. 6. The Pacific coast in Ecuador is very similar to the Pacific coast in the US, the water never gets very warm—it is not like the Atlantic Ocean at all which the water will get to the upper 70s. Having lived in California many years ago, I can say that the sunsets on the Pacific are not nearly as spectacular as on the Gulf of Mexico in Florida.
GillyJose replied on October 20, 2014 with:
Esmerldas is a coastal city, but is separated from the city centre by the industrial port area. The beach is called Las Palmas and can be reached from the city centre by bus for 25 cents (15 minutes) or a taxi for $1.50. If you are arriving at Esmeraldas bus station it is nowhere near the centre, it will cost you $2 to $3 to get to centre (the taxi drivers will try to charge you more especially at night, you could try telling them someone at the hotel you are going to stay at told you the price for the trip). If it´s daytime or early evening you can catch the blue Las Palmas buses from the main road in front of the bus station (cross over to the other side of the road to catch the buses going into the city). These buses cost 25 cents whether you are going just to the city centre or all the way to the beach. Take off any good jewellery or watches as occassional robberies (I heard of these but luckily in my year in Esmeraldas city I never experienced any bad incidents). The beach area is not very well developed and rather isolated at night so better to stay in city centre and catch a bus to the beach. Taxis to most places in the city centre cost $1, they are bright yellow and many now have camaras and emergency buttons in them. Esmeraldas is a small city, more of a big town really and unfortunately they demolished most of their original wooden houses and replaced them with usually ugly and unimaginative, half finished, concrete block buildings. The people are usually very nice and friendly and are interested in foreigners. Supposedly the dangerous area of the city centre is between Calle Pedro Vicente Maldonado and Esmeraldas river, and is called La Isla (the island). Stay clear of this area especially at night. The Casa de Cultura is located on Calle Sucre and there´s a nice icecream and coffee house called Nice Cream in front of the childrens park (Parque Infantil) on Calle Colon. There is also a small mall/shopping centre on Calle Pedro Vicente Maldonado (look on google maps for Centro Comercial Multiplaza. Don´t forget should only cost you $1 to get there from the city centre. If you walk it´s about 15 to 20 minutes and walk down Calle Bolivar most of the way as larger main street with more people. There is a good supermarket there called AKI, a chemist, KIWI (sells household/plumbing/electrical items), Radioshack, TVentas, some clothes shops and a food court with another Nice Cream store, KFC and another few restaurants. There are lots of other small shops in the city selling clothes, toiletries, food, dvd´s etc and a big electrical store that sells the usual white and brown goods on Calle Bolivar called CASTRO (pay cash if you don´t want them to add an additional charge for using credit OR debit cards, I think they tried to charge me an extra 12%. I have used my foreign debit card in AKI for no extra charge and in lots of shops in Quito for no extra charge so I don´t know why they charged for debit cards too or maybe it was just a sales assistant who didn´t know what the difference between credit and debit cards was (as the store had just recently opened). If you are coming to the coast bring those self closing (with magnets) insect nets for doors. They are brilliant and will let the air in but keep the mosquitos out. Bring a few as I haven´t seen them here in Ecuador. They do sell mosquito nets for over your beds called TOLDOS. Also bring some nets for putting over your windows. You can buy plug in Mosquito repellents (brands like SAPOLIO) here and repellent sprays and sunscreen. Plugs are 2-pin square. Weather-wise Esmeraldas gets rain showers, usually in the afternoon, the heavier ones are often at night, they are usually short in comparison to the English and Irish ones which can go on for hours (or days!!). It is always warm in the city of Esmeraldas often with a cooler breeze at night. By the way, although the city of Esmeraldas is not very pretty, the province of Esmeraldas is beautiful, very green and lush with some nice uncrowded, natural beaches and coastline to explore (try and get a group together to do hikes as safety in numbers and some areas rather isolated). If you are coming to Esmeraldas or Ecuador to live, bring good quality clothes, underwear, electrical goods, cameras, laptops etc with you as these things are expensive here and the government in Ecuador are introducing a charge on parcels received from online companies such as Amazon, so it will be expensive to import goods after you arrive. Anyway hope this information helps and good luck to all the adventurous souls out there :-)
boatmax replied on October 20, 2014 with:
Good questions, LnDobbs. 1st, weather; there are about 14 micro climates along the length of the coast; a' la carte; pick one. You are exactly correct in asking intelligent questions of resident expats. The further from the equator, the more seasonal the weather. I cannot understand nor begin to explain the differences in rainfall. I live 00' 87' 44' N and I can hardly notice what is referred to as the rainy season. I usually have a very light shower quite often, and between 2-4 AM, so I do not see those showers. However, in certain months, it sprinkles rain during the daytime hours; but most often, it is almost too light to be called rain. In 3 years, I have only seen 1 very hard rain, in Atacames; it lasted 3-4 hours, then the sun came out. There are a lot of overcast days, but where I live, it is overcast mornings and afternoons, sunny during mid-days. All of the above can change in a very few miles and a very slight rise in elevation. The soil, being mostly volcanic ash, does not compact as it does in most areas of the US,, due to a lack of clay content in the soil. The above explains erosion and landslides, which make mountain travel interesting at best. Mosquitoes, you ask? Living directly on the beach, I have a 10 mph breeze during the days,,so no mosquitoes. However at night, there is no breeze, and mosquitoes do come out at night; same repellents as in the US. Now, with all of that said, I fully expect to hear 50,000 different opinions; but these are my personal experiences of my 3 years here, in my exact location, and special micro-climate. Oh, temps; 83 degrees daytime highs, with a cool ocean breeze. Night times, temps mostly 72-73 with no breeze. Although I have 3 a/c, I have never turned them on, and have never closed my windows or sliding glass doors. You must visit for longer periods, to find what you like best', and you may find somewhere different that you may like to experience next.,
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