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Residency Visa Renewal after initial renewals

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SunnyInSeattle
8/8/2019 18:32 EST

If you have a residency visa (passive income) and renew at the end of the 1st year, and then 2 renewals for 2 years each, do you have a choice of continuing to renew the visa every 2 years or do you need to apply for the permanent resident visa. (Also, after your initial 4 months when you finally get your visa, do you have 8 months more or a full year). Thanks.

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dancebert
8/9/2019 02:02 EST

Your residency visa valid period is 4 months. After that you don't receive visas. Your permission to stay in Portugal is a 1 year temporary residence permit, followed by 2 year residence permits. You can continue with 2 year permits as long as you want. Or you can apply for permanent residence.

A full year. You initial 1 year temporary residence permit is valid for 1 year past the end date of your residence visa's valid period

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GeoffK
8/9/2019 08:12 EST

I don't know about your first question, but why would you not apply for the permanent residency?
As regards your second question what you get after the 4 months is a one year Residency Permit which covers a year from the date of issue.

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GeoffK
8/9/2019 08:12 EST

I don't know about your first question, but why would you not apply for the permanent residency?
As regards your second question what you get after the 4 months is a one year Residency Permit which covers a year from the date of issue.

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GeoffK
8/9/2019 08:12 EST

I don't know about your first question, but why would you not apply for the permanent residency?
As regards your second question what you get after the 4 months is a one year Residency Permit which covers a year from the date of issue.

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missymess
8/9/2019 08:47 EST

GeoffK: This question is one that I have wanted answered. From my point of view I am worried that our Portuguese might not be good enough to get the permanent permit. I think I might be okay, possibly, but my husband has an ear for neither music nor languages. He'll learn some and will use it whenever possible, but we just don't know if it will be "enough".

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craigandmicki
8/9/2019 12:14 EST

to SunnyinSeatle: the Residence Permit is issued for one year, then renewed for 2 years, twice. At the 6th year you have a choice: apply for Permanent Residence Permit, having an A2 language certificate to prove Portuguese fluency, or continue to renew your Temporary Residence Permit every 2 years for ever. Most of us have continued to renew because we can't master Portuguese to the A2 level (which is really basic, but!!!)

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GeoffK
8/9/2019 12:20 EST

Earlier this week I was at SEF for my first renewal. I chatted with an English couple who were there for their Permanent Residency. Neither spoke any Portuguese and they were approved. This was in Tavira. Incidentally my annual visa expired early March. I made an appointment online around start of Feb. Earliest appointment was 6 Aug. I now have a 2 year Permit dating from 6 August.

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GeoffK
8/9/2019 12:20 EST

Earlier this week I was at SEF for my first renewal. I chatted with an English couple who were there for their Permanent Residency. Neither spoke any Portuguese and they were approved. This was in Tavira. Incidentally my annual visa expired early March. I made an appointment online around start of Feb. Earliest appointment was 6 Aug. I now have a 2 year Permit dating from 6 August.

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dancebert
8/9/2019 17:39 EST

My visa expired 28-6-19. SEF appointment was 2-7-19. One year permit expires 29-6-20.

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SunnyInSeattle
8/9/2019 18:42 EST

Thanks for all the feedback. Our concern was mostly about the Portuguese language requirement and wondering how much fluency would be enough. Our goal would be permanent residency if it is possible. Good to know that you can renew as long as you wish.

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missymess
8/11/2019 16:04 EST

GeoffK: Perhaps it was because they were English and there are different requirements...?

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dancebert
8/11/2019 17:10 EST

> Our concern was mostly about the Portuguese language requirement and wondering how much fluency would be enough.

Some say it's CEFR level A2, others say B1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_European_Framework_of_Reference_for_Languages

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GeoffK
8/12/2019 02:21 EST

That is possible. It may be an EU related thing that exempts them. I don't know, although when I asked if they spoke Portuguese I would have expected them to have said if they were not required to if that is the case. . They just said they didn't.

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GeoffK
8/12/2019 02:21 EST

That is possible. It may be an EU related thing that exempts them. I don't know, although when I asked if they spoke Portuguese I would have expected them to have said if they were not required to if that is the case. . They just said they didn't.

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Alekos
8/14/2019 09:27 EST

dancebert's reply is 100% accurate.

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