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JOHNT5152
12/29/2018 12:47 EST

We are thinking of buying a small holiday home in Liguria, in one of the villages a few KMs inland, somewhere like Dolcedo or Dolceaqua.
We lived in Umbria and when we left in 2010 the Tigre zanzare was becoming a real problem.
Would anyone know what it is like in Liguria for Tigre zanzare? Are they active all year round as the winters are milder than in Toscana / Umbria.
Zanzare love us... so would be really helpful to hear from anyone who knows
Many thanks

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codybrandy
12/30/2018 10:10 EST

Hello John, Well we've been in Liguria (La Spezia region) for 4+ years and mosquitos have never really been a problem...the area that you are interested in (Imperia and Savona) I have heard are more infested. I would be far more worried about traffic in that area...the highways are bumper to bumper with "big rigs" and the coastal roads are not at all pleasant drives. And Genoa...if you will need to go is going to be a major headache for years until the new bridge (connecting all north/south travel) is re-built. Our coast on the other hand is quite lovely with beautiful seaside towns and wonderful inland hill towns (we live 20 min from Levanto and the 5Terre) Shopping is good, market days in many larger towns, La Spezia has all medical and governmental requirements one would need. Pisa and the airport are c. 1 1/4hrs south. I tell all my friends now not to fly into Genoa...what used to be a 1 1/2hr trip to the airport is now c. 2-3hrs. Well, good luck with your search...would it be possible for you to rent for a few years to get the real feel of a place? Buon Anno!

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JOHNT5152
12/31/2018 17:35 EST

Many thanks for the reply.
We had thought of the Savona / Imperia area as we have friends not far away in France and flights to Nice are very convenient and cheap!from our part of England. ( It would be a holiday home.

However, the area you suggest actually makes more sense, especially given we would want to rent it out in the summer.
We are planning to come out in April, any suggestions where would be a good place to base ourselves?
Thanks agan for your helpful comments.

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codybrandy
1/1/2019 07:02 EST

Hello again John, My daughter lives in Lincoln and Stansted to Pisa is a piece of cake and often she gets a Ryanair for c. 36. So, where would I suggest: Levanto. Maybe not to buy because it would be pricey but it's so central to everything north/south and east. It's a lovely coastal town with good services yet small enough to be homey. And great train service both north and south. It might be a good base to start looking for just the right holiday home more inland. For instance, we are in Carro...20+/- min inland and the price of homes/apts drastically drop. We like being in the country but still only 10/15min from the autostrada and bigger services. There are many, many towns like this which you could explore easily and still be near the beauty of the coast.

If you google any towns that you have questions about and would like an opinion...if I've been there I'd be happy to respond. When we were looking to buy...that was a problem...you'd find a great house, great price on the web and in reality it was just in the wrong place...too far out, too desolate etc.

So, today it's sunny and almost springlike and we are off to walk Levanto and just look at the sea...you can easily access the 5Terre to the south and the walking tunnel to Framura to the north (was an old rr path that's been turned into a walking/bike path...gorgeous)

Happy New Year and good luck!

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PMBLEX
1/7/2019 09:05 EST

https://www.angloitalianlaw.com/blog/how-to-buy-a-house-in-italy-liguria-and-pray-st-george-or-st-edmund/

Anyway the Western Liguria has one of the best climate in Italy, if you need something and advice on buying property there feel free to contact me here ( ..... yes I am Carlo the author of the article above)

Carlo

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PMBLEX
1/7/2019 09:05 EST

https://www.angloitalianlaw.com/blog/how-to-buy-a-house-in-italy-liguria-and-pray-st-george-or-st-edmund/

Anyway the Western Liguria has one of the best climate in Italy, if you need something and advice on buying property there feel free to contact me here ( ..... yes I am Carlo the author of the article above)

Carlo

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Gepetto
7/12/2019 15:35 EST

This is a terrible experience and I have to be honest it discourages me a bit !

Reading the article I think you have done everything right, yet it is so unfortunate how this story ends.

So do not rely on the Geometra real estate suggests - but this could've been slipped regardless.

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SottoVoce
11/23/2019 08:26 EST

I fully endorse the comments about the benefits and advantages of living in Liguria. We bought our apartment near Lerici in January 2018 and have absolutely no regrets (despite the Italian bureaucracy!!). We are fortunate to have gorgeous ever-changing views over the Gulf of Poets (we are located in Solaro a small village above San Terenzo with a short walk down to the sea). San Terenzo has a beautiful (Blue Flag) sandy beach (free) together with a wide variety of restaurants, shops and (arguably) the best ice-cream shop in Italy! San Terenzo is also a site of historic interest, with an ancient castle and the last home of the English Romantic poet Percy Bysshe Shelley -other famous poets and writers followed, including: Byron, D. H. Lawrence, Virginia Woolf etc.
A 20 minute walk around the bay brings you to Lerici with its excellent Saturday morning market, many restaurants, marina and ferry to the stunningly beautiful Cinque Terre -also a UNESCO World Heritage site.
There is a excellent bus service and Pisa Airport is a 35 to 40 minute drive away (mostly on the E80 Autostrada/Motorway, with low cost flights to most of Europe). I'm not sure why Liguria is so overlooked by potential property buyers! It is incredibly well connected in terms of transport links and has some wonderfully unspoilt towns and villages with fabulous local food & wines. The climate is is temperate & much less extreme than some other parts of Italy. Regarding tiger mosquitos I have never seen one (indeed following your posting I had no idea what they were and had to look them up!) -we don't even have mosquito netting & have never had any issues!

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getnatadtopull (Datasource=expert, Time=0ms, Records=8) in /home/www/html/nativerotationtop_tester13.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
SELECT *
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WHERE placementname = 'natforumtype' 
getreportnetworks (Datasource=expert, Time=0ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/nativerotationtop_tester13.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
	Select *
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getnatadtype (Datasource=expert, Time=0ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/nativerotationtop_tester13.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
SELECT *
FROM natadoptions 
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getnatadbottom (Datasource=expert, Time=0ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/nativerotationtop_tester13.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
SELECT resourceid, natforum as adcode, natforumweight, natads.natadid
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getnatadbottom (Datasource=expert, Time=0ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/nativerotationtop_tester13.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
SELECT resourceid, natforum as adcode, natforumweight, natadid
FROM natads 
WHERE natadid = 1 
votecount (Datasource=forum, Time=0ms, Records=0) in /home/www/html/navvote_rdesign5.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
SELECT vote
FROM votes
WHERE voteid = 535440
and liketype = 6 
votebadcount (Datasource=forum, Time=0ms, Records=0) in /home/www/html/navvote_rdesign5.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
SELECT vote
FROM votes
WHERE voteid = 535440
and vote = 'bad'
and liketype = 6 
votecount (Datasource=forum, Time=0ms, Records=0) in /home/www/html/navvote_rdesign5.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
SELECT vote
FROM votes
WHERE voteid = 551669
and liketype = 6 
votebadcount (Datasource=forum, Time=1ms, Records=0) in /home/www/html/navvote_rdesign5.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
SELECT vote
FROM votes
WHERE voteid = 551669
and vote = 'bad'
and liketype = 6 
getclasscheck (Datasource=tipripper, Time=0ms, Records=4, Cached Query) in /home/www/html/navrightmidcolumn_rdesign5.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
	SELECT answersphoto.photo, answersphoto.answerid, answersphoto.qid, answers.rid, allreports.networkname, allreports.networkid, allreports.city, allreports.state
	FROM answersphoto, answers, allreports 
	WHERE answersphoto.answerid = answers.answerid
	and allreports.answerid = answers.answerid
	and allreports.topicid = 6
	and allreports.hide <> 'y'
	and (answers.paid = 'yes' or answers.paid = 'free')
	AND answersphoto.qid = '104'
	AND allreports.networkid = 58
	AND "2020-06-04" < allreports.enddate
	AND answersphoto.photo <> 'none'
	ORDER BY answerid DESC
checkrptarticles (Datasource=reports, Time=0ms, Records=0, Cached Query) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
		Select *
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gettaxgeneral2 (Datasource=expert, Time=0ms, Records=2, Cached Query) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
	Select title, hitopic, hidescript, author, articles.articleID, hiimg, summary, authorurl, hpimg
	From articles, articlePlacement
	Where hitopic <> ''
	and articlePlacement.networkID = 58 
	AND articlePlacement.articleID = articles.articleID
	and hidescript <> ''
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    and hpimg <> 'none'
    and summary <> ''
    and (articles.author = 'Betsy Burlingame' or articles.author = 'Joshua Wood')
    and publishdate < "2020-06-04"

    ORDER by articles.articleID desc
    
checkretirefeature (Datasource=expert, Time=0ms, Records=1, Cached Query) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
		Select networkname as ctry, city, networkid, rid, networkname, answerid
		FROM allreports
         where rid = 96
      
         and networkid = 58 
         and city <> ''
         and date > '2013-04-01'
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getsummary (Datasource=reports, Time=0ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
		Select summary, hiimg 
		FROM answers
         where answerid = 74252
         and summary <> ''
checkmovingfeature (Datasource=expert, Time=0ms, Records=4, Cached Query) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
		Select networkname as ctry, city, networkid, rid, networkname, answerid
		FROM allreports
         where rid = 63
         and city <> ''
         
         and networkid = 58 
          and date > '2013-04-01'
		order by date DESC
getsummary (Datasource=reports, Time=1ms, Records=1) in /home/www/html/navcontentbox.cfm @ 19:35:30.030
		Select summary, hiimg 
		FROM answers
         where answerid = 75586
         and summary <> ''


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